Why Is XP in PvP Not Being Increased?

WebBull

Sorry if I misread or missed a ZOS comment on this but from a quick glance through the IC information, it seems as if XP is increasing almost everywhere except in Cyrodiil/PvP. Why is that? Pure PvP XP already lags far behind PvE. Now it will be even worse. Personally, unless I have to, I would prefer to level V14 to V16 via PvP but that will likely take twice as long.

FlounderOG

I would also like to level faster from pvp. Its leagues behind every other method.

Laggus

Probably due to possible exploit with farming your buds although that should be easily fixable..or they forgot! Its PvP after all

Muizer

Laggus wrote: »

Probably due to possible exploit with farming your buds although that should be easily fixable..or they forgot! Its PvP after all

I can imagine the problems with setting up a good reward system for PvP. As it is, though, it's basically you either have to be good at "playing the numbers" (which IMHO is kind of antithetic to PvP) or you have to get your xp/cp elsewhere, in PvE.
I wonder if PvP would not be more fun without any kind of concern for character progression whatsoever.

Ghostbane

I echo your sentiments gentlemen, there is a great wee discussion on this topic happening here

Teargrants

Because PvErs say this:

While PvPrs say this:

JamilaRaj

Let's face it, most of the time you guys just stupidly ping-pong between outposts and the nearest castles. You hardly deserve XP.
It is so stupid that I would in all seriousness recommend XP to be drained each time a player passes through one of the gates. If he passes again in 10 minutes, it would drain double.

EDIT: it (increase of XP yield) would also have not entirely desirable impact on the noob campaign. Until they fix adult campaigns (which seems unlikely given they instead let even the noob campaign devolve into ping-pong garbage, albeit at better frame rate), XP yield as it is now is fine.

Joy_Division

JamilaRaj wrote: »

Let's face it, most of the time you guys just stupidly ping-pong between outposts. You hardly deserve XP.
It is so stupid that I would in all seriousness recommend XP to be drained each time a player passes through one of the gates. If he passes again in 10 minutes, it would drain double.

LOL. Those rats in Wayrest Sewers are almost as worthy of an opponent as the Zombies in Bangkorai.

WebBull

MaximusDargus wrote: »

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Ha ha, I love the anger towards PvP. It makes me feel good inside.

Actually the only leaching going on is PvE'rs destroying a PvP zone by creating buff servers. Thankfully, that will likely disappear. This game was not developed for specifically for you MaxDarg. If you don't like PvP then don't go to a PvP zone to PvE.

If XP is going to be increased throughout all of PvE, then it should also be increased in PvP. Personally I think Zos simply just simply neglected PvP/forgot.

PvE is getting this so....

100% more XP for all public dungeons
50% more XP for all Veteran Rank quests
20% more XP in Craglorn

so PvP should get this....

100% more XP for all delves in Cyrodiil
50% more XP for all Veteran Rank PvP quests
20% more XP in Cyrodiil

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Naphariel

MaximusDargus wrote: »

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I want the LOL button back :'(

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Emma_Overload

The reason the devs are reluctant to increase PvP XP is because there is such a wide range of effectiveness between players. If they increased XP so that the "average" PvPer got a decent rate of XP gain per hour, then you would have guys like Sypher or whoever end up with 3600 CP in less than a week!

ToRelax

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

The reason the devs are reluctant to increase PvP XP is because there is such a wide range of effectiveness between players. If they increased XP so that the "average" PvPer got a decent rate of XP gain per hour, then you would have guys like Sypher or whoever end up with 3600 CP in less than a week!

There's no need to balance around the median. Always balance the top.

AhPook_Is_Here

ToRelax wrote: »

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

The reason the devs are reluctant to increase PvP XP is because there is such a wide range of effectiveness between players. If they increased XP so that the "average" PvPer got a decent rate of XP gain per hour, then you would have guys like Sypher or whoever end up with 3600 CP in less than a week!

There's no need to balance around the median. Always balance the top.

That's fine, but Emma makes a good point. Honestly, if you balance for the top the median might not see much of what one might call an incremental gain in exp. However Wheeler said they were looking at boosting exp for PVP, so till we hear anything from him there isn't much more to discuss.