Howl of Agony getting reflected by Refletive scales.

Alcast

I was trolling around in Cyro with WW and i notices that Howl of Agony is getting reflected

Why ZOS, why? its a melee skill.... @ZOS_GinaBruno

Either make it 8m (melee) or 20m (ranged) but 10m is just useless...

Mr_Nobody

Templars are not supposed to be WWs. Read the lore.

Gorthax

Welcome to the elderbroken online: Bugs not limited! I remember when Reflective scale was reflecting some heavy attacks, some melee skills, even potions (that last one is not confirmed just a myth).

Zsymon

It's not a melee skill, it's a 10m projectile sound blast. Makes sense to me that it gets reflected.

leepalmer95

Zsymon wrote: »

It's not a melee skill, it's a 10m projectile sound blast. Makes sense to me that it gets reflected.

'reflects all ranged attacks' so yeah it's obvious why it would get reflected.

Alcast

Zsymon wrote: »

It's not a melee skill, it's a 10m projectile sound blast. Makes sense to me that it gets reflected.

You could be right, still idiotic though....make it melee ><

Kobaal

Zsymon wrote: »

It's not a melee skill, it's a 10m projectile sound blast. Makes sense to me that it gets reflected.

I believe the actual text on Reflective scales is that it reflects projectiles.

trimsic_ESO

Howl of agony is not a magical nor a physical projectile, and therefore it should not be reflected. This is a bug IMHO.

manny254

Fun fact: If someone gets the black bubble and casts dawn breaker it doesn't use up the ulti cost, and is does damage to the caster and anyone they hit. So they can spam it.

Zsymon

trimsic_ESO wrote: »

Howl of agony is not a magical nor a physical projectile, and therefore it should not be reflected. This is a bug IMHO.

Do you know any 10m range single target melee skills? 10m range suggests it is a projectile, and should be reflected.

Alcast

Zsymon wrote: »

trimsic_ESO wrote: »

Howl of agony is not a magical nor a physical projectile, and therefore it should not be reflected. This is a bug IMHO.

Do you know any 10m range single target melee skills? 10m range suggests it is a projectile, and should be reflected.

either they should make it 8m or 20m, but 10m is just dumb

Benawaw89

LOL thats my name , sorry man , i didnt know. when did we fight? :P

Jeckll

Alcast wrote: »

I was trolling around in Cyro with WW and i notices that Howl of Agony is getting reflected

Why ZOS, why? its a melee skill.... @ZOS_GinaBruno

Either make it 8m (melee) or 20m (ranged) but 10m is just useless...

Typical beginners mistake - dont attack people with 700 CP
Other than that, it shoudnt be reflected because its not a projectile. It's a Sound Wave...thing...

I think it should be fixed.

Alcast

Benawaw89 wrote: »

LOL thats my name , sorry man , i didnt know. when did we fight? :P

I was trolling around with WW for fun and thought ohhhh Jammy, a DK, cant bolt away, cant cloak, lets kill him.

at that point i did not know Howl gets reflected....baaaad mistake

Jeckll wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

I was trolling around in Cyro with WW and i notices that Howl of Agony is getting reflected

Why ZOS, why? its a melee skill.... @ZOS_GinaBruno

Either make it 8m (melee) or 20m (ranged) but 10m is just useless...

Typical beginners mistake - dont attack people with 700 CP
Other than that, it shoudnt be reflected because its not a projectile. It's a Sound Wave...thing...

I think it should be fixed.

700 CP lol...why do ppl grind CP like monkeys (or in this case smurfs )

im at 320 Cp...

ginoboehm

Benawaw89 wrote: »

LOL thats my name , sorry man , i didnt know. when did we fight? :P

almost heroic. i saw you once sorrounded by 20 reds hitting on you i didn't want to help you because i didn't want to leech ap from you.

Benawaw89

ginoboehm wrote: »

Benawaw89 wrote: »

LOL thats my name , sorry man , i didnt know. when did we fight? :P

almost heroic. i saw you once sorrounded by 20 reds hitting on you i didn't want to help you because i didn't want to leech ap from you.

hahahhaha i just wanna get hugged from ppl

Benawaw89

Jeckll wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

I was trolling around in Cyro with WW and i notices that Howl of Agony is getting reflected

Why ZOS, why? its a melee skill.... @ZOS_GinaBruno

Either make it 8m (melee) or 20m (ranged) but 10m is just useless...

Typical beginners mistake - dont attack people with 700 CP
Other than that, it shoudnt be reflected because its not a projectile. It's a Sound Wave...thing...

I think it should be fixed.

i dont have 700 cp , only 689

Jeckll

Benawaw89 wrote: »

i dont have 700 cp , only 689

Slacker -.-
You might get kicked from guild soon because of laziness

Alcast wrote: »

im at 320 Cp...

You CP GRINDER!!! I'm at 305 -.-

ginoboehm

Jeckll wrote: »

Benawaw89 wrote: »

i dont have 700 cp , only 689

Slacker -.-
You might get kicked from guild soon because of laziness

Alcast wrote: »

im at 320 Cp...

You CP GRINDER!!! I'm at 305 -.-

nab fear my mighty 310 cp!

trimsic_ESO

Zsymon wrote: »

trimsic_ESO wrote: »

Howl of agony is not a magical nor a physical projectile, and therefore it should not be reflected. This is a bug IMHO.

Do you know any 10m range single target melee skills? 10m range suggests it is a projectile, and should be reflected.

Therefore, bow skills that have 40m range are not projectiles; this perfectly makes sense

ToRelax

Well, Destructive Touch has always been reflected, even when it had a 5 m range... >_>
And yes, that is stupid. I think ZOS said a projectile is "everything that travels through the air", thus any ranged skills but channels and charges. And Destructive Touch certainly didn't do that. >.<
Anyway, that's stupid, that Howl shouldn't count as projectile.

Lynx7386

The real question is why can reflective scales reflect 4 projectile attacks per use, including arrows and things like this, when 1h/shield's defensive posture can only reflect 1 spell per use, and not arrows or anything else.

ToRelax

Lynx7386 wrote: »

The real question is why can reflective scales reflect 4 projectile attacks per use, including arrows and things like this, when 1h/shield's defensive posture can only reflect 1 spell per use, and not arrows or anything else.

Because Reflective Scales are a unique, powerful and class defining DK skill that consumes magicka and Defensive Posture a stamina one hand shield skill that can be used by anyone and gives buffs to blocking.

Zsymon

Lynx7386 wrote: »

The real question is why can reflective scales reflect 4 projectile attacks per use, including arrows and things like this, when 1h/shield's defensive posture can only reflect 1 spell per use, and not arrows or anything else.

Reflective Scales is far, far more expensive, and only lasts 4 seconds, Defensive Posture lasts 30 seconds, is available to anyone and costs almost nothing. They're really quite equal, both have their uses.

PBpsy

Why no "Ernst"?

Alcast

Zsymon wrote: »

Lynx7386 wrote: »

The real question is why can reflective scales reflect 4 projectile attacks per use, including arrows and things like this, when 1h/shield's defensive posture can only reflect 1 spell per use, and not arrows or anything else.

Reflective Scales is far, far more expensive, and only lasts 4 seconds, Defensive Posture lasts 30 seconds, is available to anyone and costs almost nothing. They're really quite equal, both have their uses.

Tho you have to see refl scales reflects up to 4 thingies, def posture only 1.

jediodyn_ESO

Why is this still happening?!! @Alcast posted this over 3 years ago. Is it not a still a bug?!

ak_pvp

Its a projectile, it should be reflected, and has been reflected since forever. It being melee or ranged changes nothing. Adding another exception to wings is tarded. WW already has bleeds which ignore resist stat completely.

We already have: Sloads, ballista, arctic blast, birb, pulse, valkyn, meteor, shade arrow (fair), pet attacks (fair) and that is just from actual projectiles. Add all the extra ranged like backlash/curse/fury whatever, and every single melee attack and you see why wings is 90% ***.

Dashmatt

DK Werewolf here. Used to agree that it should not be reflectable, however now that the stun is removed and it actually has a projectile-like animation, I feel pretty neutral about it.

Grimhallow

This has never been an issue for me. Howl has always been refelectable (at least it has been since Imperial City). Very few people noticed since neither wings, nor WW were prominent.

Chrlynsch

There are plenty of range attacks in this game that can not be reflected. Howl is a sound wave and doesn't fit the definition of a projectile. Then again sound waves can be reflected, reflected, reflected.