Vampire skill line!!!

dreadnoughtus695

These early levels take so long to up grade!!!

My second character got bitten last night, I did the quest!!!

My character was lvl 15 and by end of night was almost 19 but
my vampire lvl was still only 1!!! I was even making fights last
longer so I could use essence steal more than once on the same
character.

Tips on speeding this up would be amazing!!!

Aett_Thorn

The Vamp skill line is based on you being around level 38 for XP purposes. If you get bit at lower levels, it will take a significant amount of time to level up the line.

Pman85

the vamp is kinda like all the other skill lines. You will only leveling it if you use it. The best way i figured to level it is two things. on your main bar, but a vamp skill. and use the vamp ultimate. at level 19 you should be able to bite ppl around level 30. Quest rewards when vamp skills on your bars levels it very fast. More skills on the bar, the faster it levels.

starkerealm

Level up. At 19, it will take about 20 levels worth of experience to max Vampire.

Vampire advances based on your incoming XP. It gets a full share of your leveling XP. So if you get 250xp from a source, your vampire line gets 250xp.

Here's the thing about that. At low levels 10k xp is a lot. At VR1, 10k xp is maybe two quests. So low level vampires advance MUCH slower than high level ones.

And, there isn't really a way around this. Slotting additional vampire skills doesn't increase the XP the skill line gets. So all you can do is play the game and earn more XP.

It's not like Werewolf, where you can get infected at level 8 and hit WW10 in a couple hours.

starkerealm

Pman85 wrote: »

the vamp is kinda like all the other skill lines. You will only leveling it if you use it. The best way i figured to level it is two things. on your main bar, but a vamp skill. and use the vamp ultimate. at level 19 you should be able to bite ppl around level 30. Quest rewards when vamp skills on your bars levels it very fast. More skills on the bar, the faster it levels.

Yeah, this doesn't actually work at all. Like all the World skill lines, Vampire ignores your equipped skills.

mbaker540

I got bitten at level 8 and my vampire didn't hit level 6 until level 29.

Pman85

starkerealm wrote: »

show previous quotes

Pman85 wrote: »

the vamp is kinda like all the other skill lines. You will only leveling it if you use it. The best way i figured to level it is two things. on your main bar, but a vamp skill. and use the vamp ultimate. at level 19 you should be able to bite ppl around level 30. Quest rewards when vamp skills on your bars levels it very fast. More skills on the bar, the faster it levels.

Yeah, this doesn't actually work at all. Like all the World skill lines, Vampire ignores your equipped skills.

must of changed since the last time I was a vamp

AlnilamE

Yeah, it's much easier to level at higher levels. My V8 got to level 10 with barely any effort.

As others have said, it's based on XP earned and the game expects you to be around level 38, where you get much more XP per quest/kill than you do at level 19.

That's why I laugh at people who want to get bitten on lowbies. It takes forever to get the skills levelled up.

But be patient and you will get there.

starkerealm

Pman85 wrote: »

show previous quotes

starkerealm wrote: »

Pman85 wrote: »

the vamp is kinda like all the other skill lines. You will only leveling it if you use it. The best way i figured to level it is two things. on your main bar, but a vamp skill. and use the vamp ultimate. at level 19 you should be able to bite ppl around level 30. Quest rewards when vamp skills on your bars levels it very fast. More skills on the bar, the faster it levels.

Yeah, this doesn't actually work at all. Like all the World skill lines, Vampire ignores your equipped skills.

must of changed since the last time I was a vamp

No, it never worked like that. I've used Harven's Experience Bars addon to track XP intake for skill lines (on and off) since launch. Vampire has always gotten a duplicate share of your incoming XP, without modification. You might have experienced a bug, but your equipped vampire skills aren't supposed to effect it. Or, it could have been confirmation bias, "this should make it raise faster, so it feels like it's going up faster now. "

Also, as you go up, Vampire will tick up faster, because your XP income will gradually scale over time.

But, the only skill lines that are affected by equipped skills are class lines, weapons, and (I think) armor (though it's been awhile since I checked those.) The three guild lines and four World lines all have their own leveling priorities, and you can't tweak those by equipping skills from their lines. Also your racial line, for that matter, but there's no active to equip there.

starkerealm

mbaker540 wrote: »

I got bitten at level 8 and my vampire didn't hit level 6 until level 29.

Got bit at 19, ticked over to 10 at 40. It takes awhile. That said, my girlfriend's vamp was bitten at 39, and ticked over to 10 at... I want to say 48 or 49. So, yes, Vampire expects you're at ~level 40 when you get bitten, and the XP rates reflect that.

dreadnoughtus695

Not so good, without the passives and the ultimate from levelling up, I am finding that turning your character into a vampire is making it weaker due to fire damage weakness and health regen debuff!!!!

Pman85

starkerealm wrote: »

show previous quotes

Pman85 wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Pman85 wrote: »

the vamp is kinda like all the other skill lines. You will only leveling it if you use it. The best way i figured to level it is two things. on your main bar, but a vamp skill. and use the vamp ultimate. at level 19 you should be able to bite ppl around level 30. Quest rewards when vamp skills on your bars levels it very fast. More skills on the bar, the faster it levels.

Yeah, this doesn't actually work at all. Like all the World skill lines, Vampire ignores your equipped skills.

must of changed since the last time I was a vamp

No, it never worked like that. I've used Harven's Experience Bars addon to track XP intake for skill lines (on and off) since launch. Vampire has always gotten a duplicate share of your incoming XP, without modification. You might have experienced a bug, but your equipped vampire skills aren't supposed to effect it. Or, it could have been confirmation bias, "this should make it raise faster, so it feels like it's going up faster now. "

Also, as you go up, Vampire will tick up faster, because your XP income will gradually scale over time.

But, the only skill lines that are affected by equipped skills are class lines, weapons, and (I think) armor (though it's been awhile since I checked those.) The three guild lines and four World lines all have their own leveling priorities, and you can't tweak those by equipping skills from their lines. Also your racial line, for that matter, but there's no active to equip there.

I have only been a vampire during the pc launch days, and i could of swore that i have leveled up vamp a few times by using a skill. but hey, memory can get foogy at times!

thanks for keeping me on track homies.

starkerealm

Pman85 wrote: »

show previous quotes

starkerealm wrote: »

Pman85 wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Pman85 wrote: »

the vamp is kinda like all the other skill lines. You will only leveling it if you use it. The best way i figured to level it is two things. on your main bar, but a vamp skill. and use the vamp ultimate. at level 19 you should be able to bite ppl around level 30. Quest rewards when vamp skills on your bars levels it very fast. More skills on the bar, the faster it levels.

Yeah, this doesn't actually work at all. Like all the World skill lines, Vampire ignores your equipped skills.

must of changed since the last time I was a vamp

No, it never worked like that. I've used Harven's Experience Bars addon to track XP intake for skill lines (on and off) since launch. Vampire has always gotten a duplicate share of your incoming XP, without modification. You might have experienced a bug, but your equipped vampire skills aren't supposed to effect it. Or, it could have been confirmation bias, "this should make it raise faster, so it feels like it's going up faster now. "

Also, as you go up, Vampire will tick up faster, because your XP income will gradually scale over time.

But, the only skill lines that are affected by equipped skills are class lines, weapons, and (I think) armor (though it's been awhile since I checked those.) The three guild lines and four World lines all have their own leveling priorities, and you can't tweak those by equipping skills from their lines. Also your racial line, for that matter, but there's no active to equip there.

I have only been a vampire during the pc launch days, and i could of swore that i have leveled up vamp a few times by using a skill. but hey, memory can get foogy at times!

thanks for keeping me on track homies.

Yeah, that's not how the skill lines work at all, but I can see where you might have been left with the impression that they do. Especially back at launch, when there wasn't as much information on the game's mechanics.

Also, back at launch, I remember seeing some people convinced that slotting Soul Trap was how you advanced the Soul Magic line. It's not, but that's how it works for the other skill lines...

The one things slotting vampire skills will do is advance those specific skills. So slotting Batswarm will gradually level it as you gain experience. Same with Drain and Mist Form. But they don't help the Vampire line advance.

dreadnoughtus695

I get what everyone is saying!

But why does the WW skill tree like take two days and your at 10 and laughing yet the vampire feels like I am walking in mud!!!

Merlin13KAGL

Pman85 wrote: »

show previous quotes

starkerealm wrote: »

Pman85 wrote: »

the vamp is kinda like all the other skill lines. You will only leveling it if you use it. The best way i figured to level it is two things. on your main bar, but a vamp skill. and use the vamp ultimate. at level 19 you should be able to bite ppl around level 30. Quest rewards when vamp skills on your bars levels it very fast. More skills on the bar, the faster it levels.

Yeah, this doesn't actually work at all. Like all the World skill lines, Vampire ignores your equipped skills.

must of changed since the last time I was a vamp

@Pman85 , it has. It's been made even more pathetic than it was. I had to mouse over the tooltip myself to believe it, and hoped it was a typo.

Technically, you don't even have to use the vamp skills ever to max out the line. Come to think of it, it makes perfect sense, since they don't require you to use vamp skills to complete the initial quest.

Mobs used to be L42 to start. The skill line shouldn't even be obtainable prior, or if is, the skill bar shouldn't budge until you're at least half the required level.

It's kinda sad.