Horses in stable cost too much!?

evilhotice

42.7k (which I think is 42,700 correct me if I'm wrong) is way too much for a horse. I can barely make any gold. These prices should be lowered since you can't buy any gold. I don't know any other way to get gold except from stealing armor and weapons and selling the broken down parts.

Gidorick

Questing... crafting and selling those... but yea 42K is WAAAY too much for a mount. all in-game mounts should be 15K. IMO.

Bebopgroove

You can find gold off enemies and usually as quest rewards..

BaconMagic

The cheapest mount performs exactly as the 42k mount. Save your money

phairdon

Cheapest horse is 10K. 1 gold if you own the imperial edition of this game.

IWannaBeATiger

Just do some stealing. Put a point into trafficker and in a day you can afford the basic mount if you only fence greens 3-4 days if you mostly sell the 30 gold stolen items.

bertenburnyb16_ESO

Lol this again, no its not to expensive, your doin it wrong

Akavir_Sentinel

The cheapest horse is 10k. There is absolutely no difference in stats between mounts, despite the description. You can easily earn 10k per day, even just starting out.

evilhotice

Does the prices for the items in the crown store go down if you have ESO Plus?

phairdon

evilhotice wrote: »

Does the prices for the items in the crown store go down if you have ESO Plus?

No.

Bookwyrm

This keeps coming up, but I still disagree, for two simple reasons:

a) Different skins/visuals very often come with different prices in games and in the real world (you can buy a plain old XBOX One for this price, but for $50/$100 more you can get the RED one...) Is it a rip-off? Perhaps, but I know a lot of people who spend quite a lot more on kitchenware and whatnot because it's of a specific color (red, usually, and it sells for a lot more simply because it's red).
b) There are pitiful few gold sinks in this game...horses and bag space (I include bank space with bag space). This leaves us with, ultimately, two ways of getting gold out of the economy and trying to keep some semblance of balance...and both of those have a "limit."

Buying all horses (can only be done once) costs 138,100, but all of your characters have access after the first purchase.
Training skills is now per character instead of per horse, but that actually saves people money because they don't have to buy each horse individually and train individually as well. Training all 8 characters to max horse skills costs 360,000--assuming you do train all of your characters (I do).
Bank space upgrades and bag space upgrades are also limited, and while it will cost you a lot to max them out, you don't actually have to. Most of my characters do great with 170 or 140 inventory space (this is with maxed horse capacity, I don't think I've bought the 11,000+ gold bag upgrades on any character) and something similar in the bank. Regardless, once you've spent that money you don't have to do it again unless you reroll an alt or something.

That's it. That's all there is. There's no in-game gambling or anything that isn't carried out by other players, and keeping gold circulating among players is how game economies get out of hand. It may seem like "holy crap that's a lot of gold I have to spend to max everything out!" But when you consider how little you have to spend gold on...I mean even gear, you don't have to spend any money at all on that. You can, but you don't have to, and even then you're just sharing your wealth with another player--that's not a gold sink. So I say keep the gold sinks the way they are unless they start adding more.

Besides, as everyone keeps saying "it's just a skin." You don't need the black horse or the paint horse. The brown horse will work just fine, or if you have the Imperial edition the white horse is fine. Even in the Crown Store there's disparity among mounts, even though they all provide the same "skills." That Frostmare is a reskinned Nightmare, but it was 500 crowns more than the Nightmare. Why? Because appearances (and the whole "limited" thing).

Rosveen

Akavir_Sentinel wrote: »

The cheapest horse is 10k. There is absolutely no difference in stats between mounts, despite the description. You can easily earn 10k per day, even just starting out.

How do you earn 10k a day as a new player, playing normally and not farming all the time?

Akavir_Sentinel

Rosveen wrote: »

Akavir_Sentinel wrote: »

The cheapest horse is 10k. There is absolutely no difference in stats between mounts, despite the description. You can easily earn 10k per day, even just starting out.

How do you earn 10k a day as a new player, playing normally and not farming all the time?

Doing quests, killing mobs, stealing and fencing the loot, gathering raw resources and selling them, etc... There are many ways. Now, are you going to earn 10k by hopping on for an hour and knocking out a couple of quests? No. If you want to earn a lot of gold, then you are going to have to put some effort into it.

Dradhok

Once you are in VR gold isn't so difficult to come by if you have a couple good guilds with large active stores. That being said 40+k for a mount is a bit excessive. Just buy the 10k one it is adequate.

Rosveen

Akavir_Sentinel wrote: »

Rosveen wrote: »

Akavir_Sentinel wrote: »

The cheapest horse is 10k. There is absolutely no difference in stats between mounts, despite the description. You can easily earn 10k per day, even just starting out.

How do you earn 10k a day as a new player, playing normally and not farming all the time?

Doing quests, killing mobs, stealing and fencing the loot, gathering raw resources and selling them, etc... There are many ways. Now, are you going to earn 10k by hopping on for an hour and knocking out a couple of quests? No. If you want to earn a lot of gold, then you are going to have to put some effort into it.

So basically you need to spend half a day on it. Alright.

JamilaRaj

Akavir_Sentinel wrote: »

The cheapest horse is 10k. There is absolutely no difference in stats between mounts, despite the description. You can easily earn 10k per day, even just starting out.

Yes, but by riding on the cheapest horse, he would incur -5 prestige penalty and his friends riding on limited time only Psychedelic Chimeras and Rainbow Hydras from the crown store would make fun of him.

Gidorick wrote: »

Questing... crafting and selling those... but yea 42K is WAAAY too much for a mount. all in-game mounts should be 15K. IMO.

No way. Prices need to stay high to coerce people to go and buy mounts from the cash shop instead, or else ZOS's top executives would die of hunger. Caviar is not cheap either.

TheShadowScout

Used to be the expensive horses gave a bonus. Now... they are just for people who like to show off their riches.

Still I see no reason to lower the prices, once you get to the endgame, you'll earn more gold then you'll find ways to spend without even trying hard...
And until then... they DID lower the price for the common brown horse, use that and if you really need to ride a black horse (sings: "Blackadder, blackadder, he rides a pitch black steed... blackadder, blackadder, he's very bad indeedd..." ), upgrade the skin later.

And yes, I bought all the stable horses by now. Just for fun. Like I mentioned, not much else to spend gold on after a certain point... unless you go for guild vendors...

Aett_Thorn

They should lower the prices of the higher-cost horses. The number of times I've had to explain to new players that those horses aren't any better, and people shouldn't save up for them, is in the several dozen range. People assume that igher cost = better, but they're not. Here, it's just more gold for no gain.

If horses are nothing but skins, they should all cost the same in-game.

Danikat

I'm currently saving up to get the black horse. I already have 3 horses, but I want a black one. The price doesn't bother me, I know I'll get there eventually. Sure it's taking a while (especially because I keep changing my mind and buying bank and bag space instead), but I'm not in a rush.

Rosveen wrote: »

Akavir_Sentinel wrote: »

Rosveen wrote: »

Akavir_Sentinel wrote: »

The cheapest horse is 10k. There is absolutely no difference in stats between mounts, despite the description. You can easily earn 10k per day, even just starting out.

How do you earn 10k a day as a new player, playing normally and not farming all the time?

Doing quests, killing mobs, stealing and fencing the loot, gathering raw resources and selling them, etc... There are many ways. Now, are you going to earn 10k by hopping on for an hour and knocking out a couple of quests? No. If you want to earn a lot of gold, then you are going to have to put some effort into it.

So basically you need to spend half a day on it. Alright.

Good rule of thumb for MMOs: If someone says you can do something in a day be aware that they probably do mean an entire day, or at least 8 hours. Not in the time a casual player would usually devote to 1 game within 1 day. (That used to really confuse me when I first started playing Ultima Online. People were forever telling me I could max a skill in one day by going to a specific area, I'd go there and make barely any progress in the 1 hour I had to play (this was in the days of dial-up internet). It made a lot more sense when someone finally explained that they literally meant a day.)

But that doesn't mean casual players can't do it, just that it will take longer. But it'll be longer before you need gold for other things too. For example I got one of my characters a full set of new equipment when she hit level 6 last week, I'm planning to do it again when she hits level 14 and that will probably be in a couple of weeks. For the kind of person who can make 10k in a day that'd probably happen in the same week, so they'd be paying at least twice as much as I do for new equipment.

Stealing is definitely a good way to make money, and it doesn't have to take time away from doing quests and whatever else you enjoy. Just check containers as you're going along and then sell them to a fence when you get back to town. (Checking containers is a good idea generally, the other day I found a Dwemer motif in a sack on one of the starter islands.)

UPrime

Let's not forget that the horse unlocks are ACCOUNT WIDE.

GreySix

Rosveen wrote: »

Akavir_Sentinel wrote: »

The cheapest horse is 10k. There is absolutely no difference in stats between mounts, despite the description. You can easily earn 10k per day, even just starting out.

How do you earn 10k a day as a new player, playing normally and not farming all the time?

Don't pay for armor repairs. Lot of new folks waste their gold doing that.

Just make new armor. It's pretty easy to do.

Elder_III

10,000 gold is easy to get in a couple days as a new player. Anything cheaper would cheapen the experience and trivialize the accomplishment. Look forward to the sense of satisfaction you will feel once you buy your first pony.

Rosveen

Danikat wrote: »

Good rule of thumb for MMOs: If someone says you can do something in a day be aware that they probably do mean an entire day, or at least 8 hours. Not in the time a casual player would usually devote to 1 game within 1 day. (That used to really confuse me when I first started playing Ultima Online. People were forever telling me I could max a skill in one day by going to a specific area, I'd go there and make barely any progress in the 1 hour I had to play (this was in the days of dial-up internet). It made a lot more sense when someone finally explained that they literally meant a day.)

I figured. But I did say "playing normally." I'm not looking for advice, I bought my horses long ago, I was just curious how people do it. I'm the kind of player who wanders around, reads books and never gets anything done, so it invariably surprises me to see what others allegedly can do in a day (again, of normal play. I'm past my days of playing from dawn till dusk).

Mr_Durva

47k is a fair price. It does not take that long if you actually loot bodies and sell the junk. Better yet, loot the weapons and armor and sell the materials from breaking them down. Pull in 100-300k a week by doing this

Tors

evilhotice wrote: »

These prices should be lowered since you can't buy any gold.

/cry


These games are not for you

myrrrorb14_ESO

The money take a bit to earn. Especially if you keep buying backpack and bank slots like me. But you dont really need one until later levels. Travelling in Cyrodil is painful without a ride :-(

But as said earlier, all the mounts perform the same. And you can buy one in the crown store or upgrade to the imperial edition which comes with a white mount.

Its hard to say how long it will take to earn that much, because it depends on your level. But somewhere between 8 hrs and 24hrs of gametime for low level characters (15-20).

Robert_E_Pee

You're right, but they make those 42,700 gold prices so you keep playing and spend more time on the game! It's all marketing. I myself only bought the 10k horse lol.

GreySix

Elder_III wrote: »

10,000 gold is easy to get in a couple days as a new player. Anything cheaper would cheapen the experience and trivialize the accomplishment. Look forward to the sense of satisfaction you will feel once you buy your first pony.

And don't feel gipped when you discover the horse moves only a bit faster than your character can run. That's a whole new level of swell with mount upgrades.

MrAddled

Maybe I overlooked it, but do all characters share the horses bought with gold? I know the ones worth crowns do, but haven't heard about the gold ones.

Xendyn

MrAddled wrote: »

Maybe I overlooked it, but do all characters share the horses bought with gold? I know the ones worth crowns do, but haven't heard about the gold ones.

Yes, they are all account wide, even the Imperial Edition white one.

UrQuan

Well dang it, I came into this thread only to find that @Bookwyrm already said all the things I was going to say.

I guess the only thing I have to add is that I've got all of the horses purchasable with in-game gold - some were bought before the switch to horse skins being account-wide, and some were bought after. Gold is fake money and comes easily, so why not get them all and give yourself equine options? If you're just starting out, though, go for the 10K horse. You can always get another one later if you like the look of a different one better.