Necromancy?

SedoUmbra

I made a few posts on this a while back and got some good support, so I'm just interested to see which way it would go in a poll.

Should Necromancy be usable by the player in ESO?


EDIT: Extra question for those that say it should be a skill. What would the draw backs be (if there were to be any)? How would you get it? How would you level it?

JD2013

Not bothered, probably won't use it.

Necromancy is used by the Worm Cult. If there was a very good questline involving them to learn the skills and whatnot, that may make it a lot more interesting.

But it's not a thing that really bothers me. I would vastly prefer Spellcrafting to hurry up and come along.

SedoUmbra

YES! Bring me the Necromancer class!

JD2013 wrote: »

Necromancy is used by the Worm Cult. If there was a very good questline involving them to learn the skills and whatnot, that may make it a lot more interesting.

But it's not a thing that really bothers me. I would vastly prefer Spellcrafting to hurry up and come along.

This comes up a lot and I don't like it. Vampires are the champions or Molag Bal, the guy that enslaved you and you try to get rid of, and you can become a vampire.

And a quest to get it wouldn't work, because:
1) Inaccessible from an early stage.
2) Then you'd have 4 skill lines..?

JD2013

Not bothered, probably won't use it.

SedoUmbra wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Necromancy is used by the Worm Cult. If there was a very good questline involving them to learn the skills and whatnot, that may make it a lot more interesting.

But it's not a thing that really bothers me. I would vastly prefer Spellcrafting to hurry up and come along.

This comes up a lot and I don't like it. Vampires are the champions or Molag Bal, the guy that enslaved you and you try to get rid of, and you can become a vampire.

And a quest to get it wouldn't work, because:
1) Inaccessible from an early stage.
2) Then you'd have 4 skill lines..?

Mix and match as with the Fighters and Mage Guild :P

They are having enough trouble balancing classes as it is. Adding another class would only exacerbate that problem.

SedoUmbra

YES! Bring me the Necromancer class!

JD2013 wrote: »

SedoUmbra wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Necromancy is used by the Worm Cult. If there was a very good questline involving them to learn the skills and whatnot, that may make it a lot more interesting.

But it's not a thing that really bothers me. I would vastly prefer Spellcrafting to hurry up and come along.

This comes up a lot and I don't like it. Vampires are the champions or Molag Bal, the guy that enslaved you and you try to get rid of, and you can become a vampire.

And a quest to get it wouldn't work, because:
1) Inaccessible from an early stage.
2) Then you'd have 4 skill lines..?

Mix and match as with the Fighters and Mage Guild :P

They are having enough trouble balancing classes as it is. Adding another class would only exacerbate that problem.

If ZOS did it right in the 1st place...they wouldn't be having these problems.

JD2013

Not bothered, probably won't use it.

SedoUmbra wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

SedoUmbra wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Necromancy is used by the Worm Cult. If there was a very good questline involving them to learn the skills and whatnot, that may make it a lot more interesting.

But it's not a thing that really bothers me. I would vastly prefer Spellcrafting to hurry up and come along.

This comes up a lot and I don't like it. Vampires are the champions or Molag Bal, the guy that enslaved you and you try to get rid of, and you can become a vampire.

And a quest to get it wouldn't work, because:
1) Inaccessible from an early stage.
2) Then you'd have 4 skill lines..?

Mix and match as with the Fighters and Mage Guild :P

They are having enough trouble balancing classes as it is. Adding another class would only exacerbate that problem.

If ZOS did it right in the 1st place...they wouldn't be having these problems.

Very few MMO's achieve perfect class balance.

Maybe if people stopped shouting for things to be nerfed and buffed?

Sausage

YES! Bring me the Necromancer class!

100% way to get more long term players to the game, so yes. I think it should be something like Vampire or Werewolf though.

SedoUmbra

YES! Bring me the Necromancer class!

JD2013 wrote: »

SedoUmbra wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

SedoUmbra wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Necromancy is used by the Worm Cult. If there was a very good questline involving them to learn the skills and whatnot, that may make it a lot more interesting.

But it's not a thing that really bothers me. I would vastly prefer Spellcrafting to hurry up and come along.

This comes up a lot and I don't like it. Vampires are the champions or Molag Bal, the guy that enslaved you and you try to get rid of, and you can become a vampire.

And a quest to get it wouldn't work, because:
1) Inaccessible from an early stage.
2) Then you'd have 4 skill lines..?

Mix and match as with the Fighters and Mage Guild :P

They are having enough trouble balancing classes as it is. Adding another class would only exacerbate that problem.

If ZOS did it right in the 1st place...they wouldn't be having these problems.

Very few MMO's achieve perfect class balance.

Maybe if people stopped shouting for things to be nerfed and buffed?

Oh, yeah that's a problem. CoD players get ESO because friends do, they are not used to the D.I.Y of it and ask for it to be made easier.

The_Sadist

YES! Bring me the Necromancer class!

I'm all for a Necromancer class, I have a concept in the works, but can't seem to find the time to actually complete it.

Aetherderius

YES! Bring me the Necromancer class!

Let me indulge my desires of binding the dead to my will and constructing Flesh Atronachs from the unworthy!

Or just a green-blasting staff that NPCs use.

drakeos99

YES! Bring me the Necromancer class!

Necromancer class can be a pet type class (summoner (lesser minion skeletons, then next form up would be wraith and final ultimate) would be Flesh Golem

Contraptions

Yeah, a Necromancy skill line would be cool.

Although a full necromancer class would be nice, I would settle for it being just a world skill tree for now, maybe lichdom or something. As a lich you have spells to summon undead followers, curse enemies etc. Give us a lich form ultimate (complete with cape and floating) to complete the health (vampire), stamina (werewolf) and finally lich (magicka) set.

Here's my idea on how it might work:

Rare Worm Cultists will spawn (similar to the bloodfiends and WWs) and when defeated will drop directions to a ritual cave where multiple Worm Cultists are competing to earn Molag Bal's favour. He appears and tells them that only the strongest will gain his blessing. After killing the rest of the cultists, Molag Bal appears. He says he recognises you, and he knew all along that the promise of true power was too much for you to resist. He then says the price of such Daedric power is usually your soul, but since he already has your soul, he'll settle for other people's souls.

He then gives you a unique Black Soul Gem to place in your quickslot, and if you soul trap NPCs and kill them, they'll be sent straight to Bal. He says you must constantly sacrifice others to him, if not you will get weaker over time (similar to vampiric stages and the need to feed). He then sets you free to weak havoc on Tamriel with your new undead powers.


...

I'm getting excited just thinking about it. ZOS make it happen please.

SedoUmbra

YES! Bring me the Necromancer class!

Hope more people get to see this, I really want a large response.

Forestd16b14_ESO

No, keep it out.

Freaking Necros. Nord honor our dead and by raising them you're dishonnoring the nord and you shall face our blades and axes if you raise any of our dead.

Zavinus

Yeah, a Necromancy skill line would be cool.

There is a serious need for the Necromancer class in many MMOs.

I would definitely like to see this

mtwiggz

No, keep it out.

At this point I would rather not see it in game. Really it depends on how it would be included. Mainly how many summonable creatures the Necromancer could have in play at any given time. I would much rather prefer that this didn't turn into Diablo II Necromancer lagfest. As we need no more lag included in game at this point.

If it was balanced well, designed well and capped at a limit - it wouldn't bother me at all.

Diggergig

YES! Bring me the Necromancer class!

drakeos99 wrote: »

Necromancer class can be a pet type class (summoner (lesser minion skeletons, then next form up would be wraith and final ultimate) would be Flesh Golem

If they made it right, as a pet/cc/healer class, I would purchase day one.

Zershar_Vemod

No, keep it out.

Seeing that it is highly shamed / looked down upon within the timeframe this game takes place, I don't see why, lore-wise, as to why this should be added. Everyone is fighting against necromancy, not sure why they'd suddenly start to use it.

sekou_trayvond

YES! Bring me the Necromancer class!

Big fan of a necro/cryomancer class.

I've been saving two character slots in hope of a new class to build.

A necromancer class could be a really solid undaunted dungeon runner with all the mobs to ressurect. For soloing, give the class a frost mage aspect that can stop attackers in their tracks.

andrantos

Yeah, a Necromancy skill line would be cool.

I was hoping the spell crafting feature they were working on was going to be used to bring a lot of the missing spells/spell lines that we've seen in other ES games.

I would rather see them add new skill lines as opposed to new classes. That way, we all get a chance to dabble in whatever new abilities get added to the game.

Granted - I wouldn't at all be opposed to new classes either.

CapnPhoton

No, keep it out.

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Freaking Necros. Nord honor our dead and by raising them you're dishonnoring the nord and you shall face our blades and axes if you raise any of our dead.

I would prefer to see them stay out as a PC class, not only because of the lore, but because they are an annoyance in every other MMO I have played.

For the lore, if they were made automatically agro to certain races it might be passable. There are already enough evil options available.

newtinmpls

No, keep it out.

JD2013 wrote: »

Very few MMO's achieve perfect class balance.

So abolish classes. After all, this is an ES universe, not a normal MMO

Storm_knight22

Yeah, a Necromancy skill line would be cool.

I think Necromancer is possible, even likely. If you continue destroying anchors Molag bal seems to be offering an olive branch and promising you power.

"Bend your knee to me and you shall have your army!"
"Mannimarco's failures are your opportunities"
"Tharn has the Amulet of Kings but you have the true power"

I think this is a clear indication that you'll b able to switch sides in the future joining with Molag bal could open up a necromancy skill line.....

SedoUmbra

YES! Bring me the Necromancer class!

Zershar_Vemod wrote: »

Seeing that it is highly shamed / looked down upon within the timeframe this game takes place, I don't see why, lore-wise, as to why this should be added. Everyone is fighting against necromancy, not sure why they'd suddenly start to use it.

People say this all the time. You can play as Vampires. Not only are vampires considered evil, they are the servants of the very thing you are trying to get rid of.

Zershar_Vemod

No, keep it out.

SedoUmbra wrote: »

Zershar_Vemod wrote: »

Seeing that it is highly shamed / looked down upon within the timeframe this game takes place, I don't see why, lore-wise, as to why this should be added. Everyone is fighting against necromancy, not sure why they'd suddenly start to use it.

People say this all the time. You can play as Vampires. Not only are vampires considered evil, they are the servants of the very thing you are trying to get rid of.

And yet the game doesn't know anyone is a WW / Vamp. At least with those two, the game shows that there are plenty of "good" WW / Vamps around that actually become important down the road in the main quest.

But necromancy? I haven't seen anything in the game that shows the 3 factions supporting it at all.

TheBonesXXX

YES! Bring me the Necromancer class!

Yes, the Shaman and Necro classes are already NPC's no reason they can't introduce them as classes.

and polearms/spears, they need to add those too.

Zorrashi

Yeah, a Necromancy skill line would be cool.

I'm a bit divided. On one hand I certainly want there to be player choice in the matter in weather they decided to embrace necromancy, but at the same time I can not think of a way in which they can truly be added artfully.

It's bad enough they botched vampires and werewolves, but necromancy is one of those things that should be noticed in the game world in some measure. In the grand majority of tamriel, open necromancy is illegal and a cultural taboo....
But I imagine that if they did the questline right, that little detail can be overlooked in the same way I overlook the fact that obviously starved vampires can walk into town unhindered.

The only things I do insist on though is that the necromancer skill line(s) do not become an additional class alongside the others. We have a hard enough time balancing the ones we have already.

usrevenge

Yeah, a Necromancy skill line would be cool.

just don't make it a class, make it like vampirsm or the mages guild skill line, you learn it, train it and can get passives/other skills in it.

as long as it's balanced anyway.

newtinmpls

No, keep it out.

Zorrashi wrote: »

I imagine that if they did the questline right, that little detail can be overlooked in the same way I overlook the fact that obviously starved vampires can walk into town unhindered.

On the other hand - think of the potential for Justice System upgrades ... guards going after obviously hungry vampires - and anyone who turns WW in a city.

BugCollector

Yeah, a Necromancy skill line would be cool.

Would love a Necromancy skill line for everyone to have access to. Just don't make it a class, because of balance issues.

stimpy986b14_ESO

YES! Bring me the Necromancer class!

I'm all for it. I've even written up some detailed posts of my own on the subject.

Necromancer class

Necromancy skill line