Nerf to Stamina builds

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO

On the last ESO Live Eric W/ESO lead combat designer stated that dodgerolling will have a scaling cost of approx 33% and Blockcasting/Blocking will have their base Stamina regen stopped..

I don't like the Nerf to Stamina via dodge rolling (scaling cost) and blocking (no base stamina regen while blocking), I finally felt that Stamina builds were as good as Magicka builds and now I feel like we are gonna take a big Nerf.

I guess I will have to test it on the PTS but now I want to put all my CP into the SHADOW under the Thief Constellation in Tumbling just to mitigate this, and 100 cp in Tumbling still only gives you 18% reduction, like half of the scaling cost.

On blocking, it shouldn't have costed stamina, what it should have done was lower your damage output by like 15-25% to the abilities you cast while Blocking, so you will do way less damage if you are BlockCasting..

What does everyone else think ?

Dracane

Stamina builds aren't as good as Magicka builds, they are by far superior.
I'm happy about these changes. Finally, after 2 years, the OP block will finally get a nerf and require skill now. Same goes to dodge rolls. Dodge roll should be a situational thing, that you use to avoid a dangerous incoming attack. But definately nothing you do all day long, 1000 times in a row

PBpsy

Good.,

KingKush

I like the changes to stamina. Makes choosing when to block/dodge roll more crucial.

I can see where it will be a problem in PVE but Pve in this game is too easy anyways.

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO

Dracane wrote: »

Stamina builds aren't as good as Magicka builds, they are by far superior.
I'm happy about these changes. Finally, after 2 years, the OP block will finally get a nerf and require skill now. Same goes to dodge rolls. Dodge roll should be a situational thing, that you use to avoid a dangerous incoming attack. But definately nothing you do all day long, 1000 times in a row

I hear your point and respect your position but I remember when Magicka dominated and we had sticks and skirt DK's surviving everything..

This Stamina nerf will also effect Magicka users as well, since Magicka heavy builds don't have that much stamina to begin with and when they try to block or dodgeroll, now it will only be a matter of time before they crumble extremely fast to all Stamina builds, just sayin'...

Dracane

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Stamina builds aren't as good as Magicka builds, they are by far superior.
I'm happy about these changes. Finally, after 2 years, the OP block will finally get a nerf and require skill now. Same goes to dodge rolls. Dodge roll should be a situational thing, that you use to avoid a dangerous incoming attack. But definately nothing you do all day long, 1000 times in a row

I hear your point and respect your position but I remember when Magicka dominated and we had sticks and skirt DK's surviving everything..

This Stamina nerf will also effect Magicka users as well, since Magicka heavy builds don't have that much stamina to begin with and when they try to block or dodgeroll, now it will only be a matter of time before they crumble extremely fast to all Stamina builds, just sayin'...

That's why we have stronger shields. Everything is fine my friends. Stamina has strong and enduring blocks and dodge rolls, mitigation most damage in the game to 0 and you can break free forever. All that together gives Stamina so many survival skills.

We Magicka people have our shields, stronger heals (even though that one stamina heal from the alliance war skill line is extreeemly strong, hope they have a look at that). So I think stamina has more tools to use and that makes both perfectly viable. All I ask for, is to leave our shields alone and don't make stupid decisions. Shields are our only protection, please leave us alone.

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO

Dracane wrote: »

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Stamina builds aren't as good as Magicka builds, they are by far superior.
I'm happy about these changes. Finally, after 2 years, the OP block will finally get a nerf and require skill now. Same goes to dodge rolls. Dodge roll should be a situational thing, that you use to avoid a dangerous incoming attack. But definately nothing you do all day long, 1000 times in a row

I hear your point and respect your position but I remember when Magicka dominated and we had sticks and skirt DK's surviving everything..

This Stamina nerf will also effect Magicka users as well, since Magicka heavy builds don't have that much stamina to begin with and when they try to block or dodgeroll, now it will only be a matter of time before they crumble extremely fast to all Stamina builds, just sayin'...

That's why we have stronger shields. Everything is fine my friends. Stamina has strong and enduring blocks and dodge rolls, mitigation most damage in the game to 0 and you can break free forever. All that together gives Stamina so many survival skills.

We Magicka people have our shields, stronger heals (even though that one stamina heal from the alliance war skill line is extreeemly strong, hope they have a look at that). So I think stamina has more tools to use and that makes both perfectly viable. All I ask for, is to leave our shields alone and don't make stupid decisions. Shields are our only protection, please leave us alone.

yeah but they are nerfing heals and damage shields by 50% in cyrodiil, as per the last ESO Live.

Battle spirit will now give a 50% reduction to damage, healing and shields in Cyrodiil.

Dracane

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Stamina builds aren't as good as Magicka builds, they are by far superior.
I'm happy about these changes. Finally, after 2 years, the OP block will finally get a nerf and require skill now. Same goes to dodge rolls. Dodge roll should be a situational thing, that you use to avoid a dangerous incoming attack. But definately nothing you do all day long, 1000 times in a row

I hear your point and respect your position but I remember when Magicka dominated and we had sticks and skirt DK's surviving everything..

This Stamina nerf will also effect Magicka users as well, since Magicka heavy builds don't have that much stamina to begin with and when they try to block or dodgeroll, now it will only be a matter of time before they crumble extremely fast to all Stamina builds, just sayin'...

That's why we have stronger shields. Everything is fine my friends. Stamina has strong and enduring blocks and dodge rolls, mitigation most damage in the game to 0 and you can break free forever. All that together gives Stamina so many survival skills.

We Magicka people have our shields, stronger heals (even though that one stamina heal from the alliance war skill line is extreeemly strong, hope they have a look at that). So I think stamina has more tools to use and that makes both perfectly viable. All I ask for, is to leave our shields alone and don't make stupid decisions. Shields are our only protection, please leave us alone.

yeah but they are nerfing heals and damage shields by 50% in cyrodiil, as per the last ESO Live.

Battle spirit will now give a 50% reduction to damage, healing and shields in Cyrodiil.

But everyone takes 50% less damage as well, so of course they need to nerf heals as well. Everything will be the same, expect for health being much harder to take down (which I myself dislike a lot)

Fights will be long and boring now. It's going to be such a boring game. Just like pre 1.6, where the pvp game was slow, annoying and not very satisfying. Think this will return now.

But this time, turtles can't just permablock (hopefully)

trimsic_ESO

Dracane wrote: »

Stamina builds aren't as good as Magicka builds, they are by far superior.
I'm happy about these changes. Finally, after 2 years, the OP block will finally get a nerf and require skill now. Same goes to dodge rolls. Dodge roll should be a situational thing, that you use to avoid a dangerous incoming attack. But definately nothing you do all day long, 1000 times in a row

Looking around me in Cyrodiil :
- Magicka build
- Magicka build
- Magicka build
- ...
- Stamina build (a NB playing with a bow)
- Magicka build
- Magicka build
- Etc....

Asking a DK about his build: are you running a magicka build?
Of course, playing a stamina build would make no sense !

ZOS has the numbers and perfectly knows that there are much more people playing a magicka build than people playing a stamina build. So, either all these people are just plain stupid or magicka builds are still largely superior to stamina builds in Cyrodiil (better sustainability, better resource management, to name a few).

Dracane

trimsic_ESO wrote: »

ZOS has the numbers and perfectly knows that there are much more people playing a magicka build than people playing a stamina build. So, either all these people are just plain stupid or magicka builds are still largely superior to stamina builds in Cyrodiil (better sustainability, better resource management, to name a few).

Or maybe players play the way they want and what they enjoy the most, not what is the best ?
It's no secret, that stamina builds currently are much more dangerous than Magicka. And to me as a Sorc, stamina DKs are a nightmare, because they deal much more damage to me.

But I would always use magic, simply because armor and sword is not my style. I'm a lady !