VR and XP changes
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smokes
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just want to clarify for those who didn't watch ESO live
VR quests are going to give 50% more XP
public dungeons are going to give DOUBLE XP (not delves, not group dungeons)
EVERYTHING in craglorn is going to give 20% extra xp - mobs + quests
VR 1-16 xp is being REDUCED by 15%
veteran ranks are also being increased to 16
these are good changes. whilst i can attest and agree with everyones dislike of VR levels, this is actually a really good nerf to XP which should make getting to VR16 a lot easier for everybody.
however, none of this is happening until the imperial city content patch. more news of which will be available july 13th.
veteran ranks are still going to be removed, however, VR ranks are intrinsically tied to XP gains and itemisation (the stats on your gear/food/potions/enchants). the ties between itemisation and vet ranks are the reason why VR ranks aren't being removed quite yet. the introduction of champion points has done the job of separating out XP from VR to CP, but the itemisation changes need to be handled delicately so nobody loses any progress. there is no more detail on this at this time.
so, as such, VR ranks HAD to be increased with imperial city.
it was either a case of
A. delay new content until VR ranks are removed.
Or.
B. increase VR ranks when releasing imperial city.
Or.
C. dont increase VR rank but release imperial city with no new gear/crafting mats. which would make it underwhelming and unrewarding, so not a good option, even though it might seem like it to some.
whilst we would probably all prefer option D. remove vet ranks and release imperial city. it's just not possible at this time due to the itemisation. with new content comes new gear and without a new system for managing the itemisation on new gear, it still needs to be applied via VR ranks.
so yea. no need to go ape, just relax, enjoy the new content when it comes and have faith that ZoS know what they are doing. even though it's taking an age, it's because they want to do it properly.
although tbh, i'll be avoiding any more quest content until the patch (even though i'm now VR14 i still have some cadwells gold quests to go and all of craglorn).
now is a good time to level alts up to VR1 in preparation for the XP nerf.
VR quests are going to give 50% more XP
public dungeons are going to give DOUBLE XP (not delves, not group dungeons)
EVERYTHING in craglorn is going to give 20% extra xp - mobs + quests
VR 1-16 xp is being REDUCED by 15%
veteran ranks are also being increased to 16
these are good changes. whilst i can attest and agree with everyones dislike of VR levels, this is actually a really good nerf to XP which should make getting to VR16 a lot easier for everybody.
however, none of this is happening until the imperial city content patch. more news of which will be available july 13th.
veteran ranks are still going to be removed, however, VR ranks are intrinsically tied to XP gains and itemisation (the stats on your gear/food/potions/enchants). the ties between itemisation and vet ranks are the reason why VR ranks aren't being removed quite yet. the introduction of champion points has done the job of separating out XP from VR to CP, but the itemisation changes need to be handled delicately so nobody loses any progress. there is no more detail on this at this time.
so, as such, VR ranks HAD to be increased with imperial city.
it was either a case of
A. delay new content until VR ranks are removed.
Or.
B. increase VR ranks when releasing imperial city.
Or.
C. dont increase VR rank but release imperial city with no new gear/crafting mats. which would make it underwhelming and unrewarding, so not a good option, even though it might seem like it to some.
whilst we would probably all prefer option D. remove vet ranks and release imperial city. it's just not possible at this time due to the itemisation. with new content comes new gear and without a new system for managing the itemisation on new gear, it still needs to be applied via VR ranks.
so yea. no need to go ape, just relax, enjoy the new content when it comes and have faith that ZoS know what they are doing. even though it's taking an age, it's because they want to do it properly.
although tbh, i'll be avoiding any more quest content until the patch (even though i'm now VR14 i still have some cadwells gold quests to go and all of craglorn).
now is a good time to level alts up to VR1 in preparation for the XP nerf.
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sadownik✭✭✭✭✭
✭just want to clarify for those who didn't watch ESO live
VR quests are going to give 50% more XP
public dungeons are going to give DOUBLE XP (not delves, not group dungeons)
EVERYTHING in craglorn is going to give 20% extra xp - mobs + quests
VR 1-16 xp is being REDUCED by 15%
veteran ranks are also being increased to 16
these are good changes. whilst i can attest and agree with everyones dislike of VR levels, this is actually a really good nerf to XP which should make getting to VR16 a lot easier for everybody.
however, none of this is happening until the imperial city content patch. more news of which will be available july 13th.
veteran ranks are still going to be removed, however, VR ranks are intrinsically tied to XP gains and itemisation (the stats on your gear/food/potions/enchants). the ties between itemisation and vet ranks are the reason why VR ranks aren't being removed quite yet. the introduction of champion points has done the job of separating out XP from VR to CP, but the itemisation changes need to be handled delicately so nobody loses any progress. there is no more detail on this at this time.
so, as such, VR ranks HAD to be increased with imperial city.
it was either a case of
A. delay new content until VR ranks are removed.
Or.
B. increase VR ranks when releasing imperial city.
Or.
C. dont increase VR rank but release imperial city with no new gear/crafting mats. which would make it underwhelming and unrewarding, so not a good option, even though it might seem like it to some.
whilst we would probably all prefer option D. remove vet ranks and release imperial city. it's just not possible at this time due to the itemisation. with new content comes new gear and without a new system for managing the itemisation on new gear, it still needs to be applied via VR ranks.
so yea. no need to go ape, just relax, enjoy the new content when it comes and have faith that ZoS know what they are doing. even though it's taking an age, it's because they want to do it properly.
although tbh, i'll be avoiding any more quest content until the patch (even though i'm now VR14 i still have some cadwells gold quests to go and all of craglorn).
now is a good time to level alts up to VR1 in preparation for the XP nerf.
Forgive me but i dont find any logic here. What are you trying to tell?AgGain with massive nerf to vet ranks?
a. veteran quests - not all quests but those required for cadwell - how much of the overall xp are those that 50% makes such a difference?
b. public dungeons give right now such a pathetic xp beyond 1 time quests that buffing them 100% is still less than random mobs outside those dungeons.
c. Craglon and 20% ... well you got me there, since they lowered more than 50% adding 20% now is sure a buff.
Have you even made that intelectual exercise and tried to predict how much more xp in vet ranks average player will get?
I did and so did others. Results vary from 9% to 2.9% huge nerf indeed.
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Bromburak✭✭✭✭✭
veteran ranks are also being increased to 16
these are good changes.
veteran ranks are still going to be removed
so, as such, VR ranks HAD to be increased with imperial city.
it was either a case of
A. delay new content until VR ranks are removed.
Or.
B. increase VR ranks when releasing imperial city.
Or.
C. dont increase VR rank but release imperial city with no new gear/crafting mats. which would make it underwhelming and unrewarding, so not a good option, even though it might seem like it to some.
Or , or, or it could have been clarified before!
It doesn't matter how we all value this change, it matters how a professional company deals with communication and how trustworthy are their decisions. End of story.
Edited by Bromburak on July 3, 2015 11:32AM0 -
smokes✭✭✭Results vary from 9% to 2.9% huge nerf indeed.
ok, maybe not so huge, i was more concerned with people understanding why VR is being increased before it is removed. (which i explained in more detail in the other thread for you)
without knowing how much XP will be available in imperial city or what level you'll need to be in order to enter it we can only make judgements on currently available content.
yep, it's still gonna be a grind to get to VR16 from VR1, but it's still gonna be easier than it currently is.0
