Do you support the increase in level cap to VR16

Jules

Simple, clean, just want pure numbers on how the community feels about this new information. Explain if you want.

GamerzElite

Already VR16 poll exist in forum http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/190293/vr16-yes-or-no#latest

Jules

No

GamerzElite wrote: »

Already VR16 poll exist in forum http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/190293/vr16-yes-or-no#latest

My bizzle. Didn't see it due to laziness/being tired. Will hop over there and see.

Teargrants

No

Why hop over there when I'm over here?

Jules

No

Teargrants wrote: »

Why hop over there when I'm over here?

Listen I think you bunny hop enough. What's one more hop?

Personofsecrets

No

obvious no. dont say one thing and continue to do the other zos. its what is known as deceit and every civilization is based on not deceit, but trust.

Grimnaur

Yes

I'm to the point that I don't care if they take them away or not. They are making changes to VR levels, so that they aren't so much of a grind ( which is what I thought most people hated about them). Also, isn't the VR 16 increase coming out when the Imperial City is? So you won't have to keep grinding the same things you are now.

Personofsecrets

No

Grimnaur wrote: »

I'm to the point that I don't care if they take them away or not. They are making changes to VR levels, so that they aren't so much of a grind ( which is what I thought most people hated about them). Also, isn't the VR 16 increase coming out when the Imperial City is? So you won't have to keep grinding the same things you are now.

yes, people dont like grinding, but the ship on that issue sailed far away when the undaunted sets where released.

Now players want the things that they grinded for to not be obsolete. Pretty reasonable desire imo.

Grimnaur

Yes

Personofsecrets wrote: »

Grimnaur wrote: »

I'm to the point that I don't care if they take them away or not. They are making changes to VR levels, so that they aren't so much of a grind ( which is what I thought most people hated about them). Also, isn't the VR 16 increase coming out when the Imperial City is? So you won't have to keep grinding the same things you are now.

yes, people dont like grinding, but the ship on that issue sailed far away when the undaunted sets where released.

Now players want the things that they grinded for to not be obsolete. Pretty reasonable desire imo.

I said this in a different post, but that is what a gear grind game is. You get best gear, then they add new content, you do it and get new best gear and so on.

Rinmaethodain

Yes

yes

JesterH

There is already a poll like this fyi

Grimnaur

Yes

JesterH wrote: »

There is already a poll like this fyi

We do our on thing!

GaldorP

Other (explain)

If there's PvE content (solo and group content) where VR 16 character can gain XP at the same rate as lower VR characters can right now then I don't really mind it.

Even though I'll probably have to replace all my gear... again ><

I have to say though I see no good reason at the moment why the increase in max VR is really, absolutely needed. Hopefully, Eric Wrobel will explain why the update is needed in the next ESO live which will be more about itemization.

Elloa

Other (explain)

I'm okay with it, BECAUSE, it's a system they are apparently forced to use while working on the new system that will support the removal of the veteran ranks.

I don't really care about the level cap. It can be 50, or Vet16, I don't care. but once the cap is reached I wish that the progression would be horizontal and not vertical.
A vertical progression is creating huge gap between players, making harder to group up and catch up. It also make content obselete.
Once I reach max level, I'd like to have the largest choice possible of activities to do. This is why I'm in favour of scalable content.

I hate when super cool Dungeons/raid/zones are not anything interesting to do anymore because I'm too powerfull for them.

Personofsecrets

No

Elloa wrote: »

I'm okay with it, BECAUSE, it's a system they are apparently forced to use while working on the new system that will support the removal of the veteran ranks.

trust me, there is no gun being held to the head of a poor dev that has their hands tied behind their back.

smokes

Yes

yes - because i understand why they HAVE to do it.

itemisation is intrinsically linked to VR levels.

until that programming is changed - which isn't as easy as it might sound, imperial city would release either without any new gear or crafting mats, or would be delayed until such changes were made, tested, finalisd, tested again, sent to QA for more testing and then finally released.

Elloa

Other (explain)

Personofsecrets wrote: »

Elloa wrote: »

I'm okay with it, BECAUSE, it's a system they are apparently forced to use while working on the new system that will support the removal of the veteran ranks.

trust me, there is no gun being held to the head of a poor dev that has their hands tied behind their back.

Miracles doesn't excist. They can't lay a new patch just because we want it. They have restriction may it be budget, time, technology, whatever... That's what I'm talking about.

Bromburak

Other (explain)

Well, I support this game because i like it but i don't agree with every change that is being made.
Not because i don't like the idea or a change is bad , good, wrong or right, its because a missing reliable strategy behind it.

I can accept many decisions but when they implement something else spontanously then this is a sign for a non trustworthy company. I don't have problems with marketing or revenue decisions but i am expecting honest communication in any kind of business.

Personofsecrets

No

Elloa wrote: »

Personofsecrets wrote: »

Elloa wrote: »

I'm okay with it, BECAUSE, it's a system they are apparently forced to use while working on the new system that will support the removal of the veteran ranks.

trust me, there is no gun being held to the head of a poor dev that has their hands tied behind their back.

Miracles doesn't excist. They can't lay a new patch just because we want it. They have restriction may it be budget, time, technology, whatever... That's what I'm talking about.

We shouldn't be fooled into believing that the only way for us to get a good thing is to take a bad thing with it. As much coding as there may have to be to remove veteran levels from their game, I don't believe that any extra coding would have had to be completed in order to release imperial city at v14.

The news of more vet levels with actual content is suspicious to me. A perfect way to make everyone feel like they have to take their lumps is to give them what they have wanted, since at least November, with said lumps.

Rhakon

No

Grimnaur wrote: »

Personofsecrets wrote: »

Grimnaur wrote: »

I'm to the point that I don't care if they take them away or not. They are making changes to VR levels, so that they aren't so much of a grind ( which is what I thought most people hated about them). Also, isn't the VR 16 increase coming out when the Imperial City is? So you won't have to keep grinding the same things you are now.

yes, people dont like grinding, but the ship on that issue sailed far away when the undaunted sets where released.

Now players want the things that they grinded for to not be obsolete. Pretty reasonable desire imo.

I said this in a different post, but that is what a gear grind game is. You get best gear, then they add new content, you do it and get new best gear and so on.

no we have to craft the SAME gear with a little statboost...

Personofsecrets

No

smokes wrote: »

until that programming is changed - which isn't as easy as it might sound, imperial city would release either without any new gear or crafting mats,

If the devs wanted to make imperial city have v14 gear, then they could. It isn't like imperial city would argue with them and demand otherwise.

The way items codes work in this game is pretty simple and it indicates that there is plenty of room to add more sets.

TheShadowScout

Other (explain)

Don't really care one way or another. I am used to the thing from other games, and with the c-system my expee gains while playing at maxlevel still mean something in any case... so its just gear, and gear isn't -that- vital in ESO... I played a lot of V14 with V12 gear, so I'll play a lot of V16 with V14 gear, what's the difference, I'll still have fun...

Aneima

No

Raising the cap level is something all mmorpgs do as time goes on....but not raising the cap 3 times in one year. Surely ZOS can come up with better ideas and content since the majority of the games times players were paying a subscription.

But then again maybe they don't have any better ideas I mean for crying out loud they can't even get the launcher to download patches properly.

nebuloss124

It doesn't really bother me. However because they are making it easier to lvl VR in a patch that god only knows when will be released. Makes it really hard to get back to the grind right now when in 4-5 months whenever the patch is it will be easier.

Grimnaur

Yes

Rhakon wrote: »

Grimnaur wrote: »

Personofsecrets wrote: »

Grimnaur wrote: »

I'm to the point that I don't care if they take them away or not. They are making changes to VR levels, so that they aren't so much of a grind ( which is what I thought most people hated about them). Also, isn't the VR 16 increase coming out when the Imperial City is? So you won't have to keep grinding the same things you are now.

yes, people dont like grinding, but the ship on that issue sailed far away when the undaunted sets where released.

Now players want the things that they grinded for to not be obsolete. Pretty reasonable desire imo.

I said this in a different post, but that is what a gear grind game is. You get best gear, then they add new content, you do it and get new best gear and so on.

no we have to craft the SAME gear with a little statboost...

Well in that case, you will probably get enough material between VR14 - VR16, so no grind involved. Even if they took away VR levels and just added regular levels or gear score, you would have to try to get new gear when they add new content.

BigM

Other (explain)

I don't support the game in any way shape or form. Changes need to be made and that starts at top. Until that happens not another nickel will I give to them. Just wish more would do the same then maybe they would wake up and listen.