Wtf is Zerging?

aldiablo

just wondering as i am hearing it alot on here and am curios can anyone help me out?

Makkir

nerdbonics

Kobaal

I believe the name finds its origins from Starcrafts Zerg race in which you would create massive amounts of tiny soldier units and swarm over your enemy. Same thing here. Zerg is a large amount of players in one spot swarming over the enemy.

VagabondAngel

aldiablo wrote: »

just wondering as i am hearing it alot on here and am curios can anyone help me out?

Quoted from the urban dictionary:

"Nowadays the term zerg is used in MMO games to describe a force consisting of a large group of lower level players (often with only basic equipment) who use numbers rather than strategy to defeat the enemy, therefore requiring no skill. This tactics is commonly known as zerging"

Pretty much sums it up... only these days it doesn't seem to be restricted to just low level players.

aldiablo

Thanks guys big help now i understand why i hear it so much lol seems to happen a lot

VagabondAngel

aldiablo wrote: »

Thanks guys big help now i understand why i hear it so much lol seems to happen a lot

“In the midst of chaos, there is also opportunity”
― Sun Tzu

Makkir

aldiablo wrote: »

Thanks guys big help now i understand why i hear it so much lol seems to happen a lot

Don't ever use the term outside a video game, girls will laugh at you.

Example, "Look at the beautiful zerg of geese overhead" or "The ants just zerg my kitchen this time of year."

yodased

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=zerg+rush

Hypertionb14_ESO

what players did until blobbing started really taking off.

I.E massive number of players all more or less lemming running around, relying entirely on numbers.

its also something that will always happen in open world stuff like this because its always safer in a group than it is alone..

of course it lead to the rise of blobbing, where a group of players stack on crown and spam AOEs of all kinds (Damage, Heals, Midigation).. blobs can literally cut through a blob like butter without any regard to anything but staying on crown and pushing their "AOE rotation"

blobs get even worse when randoms start to group on them, and its pretty often to see blobs, zerg by having alot of un-grouped members who follow the easy to spot blob, relying on the blob to help them not die.


Zerging is a problem, but blob mechanics are even worse honestly.

i remember the days when you could honestly have hundreds of people on screen in a zerg...

now we have issues with just 24.... the game has fallen so far..... i wish i had PvPed more in the early days.

and while Zerging is definitly bad... those days we had a lot more players.. you cannot deny the game was in a more healthy state.

BRogueNZ

Blitzkrieg for nerds

Saiyoid

Makkir wrote: »

aldiablo wrote: »

Thanks guys big help now i understand why i hear it so much lol seems to happen a lot

Don't ever use the term outside a video game, girls will laugh at you.

Example, "Look at the beautiful zerg of geese overhead" or "The ants just zerg my kitchen this time of year."

Scratch that, I am going to start using that outside of video games. Zerging just rolls of the tongue so nicely.

Kobaal

Its pay day and I just got a zerg load of money....

Bromburak

Defeating other players by outnumbering them, no tactics or skill required you just roll em over.

qsnoopyjr

PUG zerg, is when you have a bunch of people just running all over the place

Organized zerg, is when you see a bunch of people grouped very tight together and then when they attack massive lag spikes happen. Due to steel tornado lag, impulse lag, purge lag, barrier lag, negate lag, meteor lag... All in 1 spot which makes that particular pixel/area memory, overload, causing lag.
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Think of it like global warming, a hole in the atmosphere causes global warming for everyone and not just one particular spot. Similar to a zerg causing a pixel/area overload in one spot.. causing lag for everyone.

But yes, zerg came from starcraft and if you still don't get what a zerg is, try defending a keep. Those keeps that the enemy rushes in and theres like 20+ and you cant do anything by yourself... That's what a zerg is.

Heathenpride

My boss and his bosses in head office zerg me every day, hard. Extremely low level, attack in the safety of numbers and have the collective intelligence of a drunk housefly...

Zerging in-game I can deal with, at work it makes me want to quit and play ESO all day instead!

Blobsky

Question: WTF is zerging
Answer:Thornblade

RedTalon

When 100+ players from one faction all go to one location spam the same skills and do amazing things to the server its an art forum to perform and takes good planning and focus!

filmoretub17_ESO

AD and DC are masters of this just observe.

Snit

A zerg is any group with more players than your group.

Forestd16b14_ESO

Well the term comes from Starcraft. It came from when a player would create a ton of minion zerg baby things and would make like 20+ and use them they would be able to litteraly mow down anything in there path way. Heance zerg.

Forestd16b14_ESO

filmoretub17_ESO wrote: »

AD and DC are masters of this just observe.

So is AD

DezIsDead

To be fair "Zerg" is overused in eso, a lot of people call a 24 man group a Zerg due to the fact that 24 man groups tend to bring about lag. But IMO a Zerg is like 28+ . Group sizes are 24 for a reason, anything more should be construed as a Zerg. Due to whatever is causing lag (bad coding or particles, servers, whatever it is) people generalize anything over about 18 as a Zerg

Forestd16b14_ESO

DezIsDead wrote: »

To be fair "Zerg" is overused in eso, a lot of people call a 24 man group a Zerg due to the fact that 24 man groups tend to bring about lag. But IMO a Zerg is like 28+ . Group sizes are 24 for a reason, anything more should be construed as a Zerg. Due to whatever is causing lag (bad coding or particles, servers, whatever it is) people generalize anything over about 18 as a Zerg

May be true but most players in said "zerg" do have to power of one. Spamming what ever "skill" is the i win button. So they may just be a raid of 18+ but they have the power of 28+

Iyas

DezIsDead wrote: »

To be fair "Zerg" is overused in eso, a lot of people call a 24 man group a Zerg due to the fact that 24 man groups tend to bring about lag. But IMO a Zerg is like 28+ . Group sizes are 24 for a reason, anything more should be construed as a Zerg. Due to whatever is causing lag (bad coding or particles, servers, whatever it is) people generalize anything over about 18 as a Zerg

Lol for you

Etaniel

DezIsDead wrote: »

To be fair "Zerg" is overused in eso, a lot of people call a 24 man group a Zerg due to the fact that 24 man groups tend to bring about lag. But IMO a Zerg is like 28+ . Group sizes are 24 for a reason, anything more should be construed as a Zerg. Due to whatever is causing lag (bad coding or particles, servers, whatever it is) people generalize anything over about 18 as a Zerg

Zerg is overused and missused on eso and on these forums. A 24 man group of people can be a zerg if they run spread out without coordination. A 24 man group that is stacked up is more of a train (lagtrain usually) but they don't just rely on numbers, they rely on coordination. Since most of the time, these 24 man trains run into smaller groups, it seems as if they are only gaining advantage through numbers, when they actually strive to deal with even bigger forces.

You don't need 28 people running together for it to be a zerg... 15-20 unorganized players running all over the place without a clue or just mindlessly following whoever is in front of them constitue a ZERG.

The origin from Starcraft was that you would keep flooding your opponent with a massive number of units, without trying to micro them and without making the most use out of every unit, just piling them upon your opponent's defenses until they gave in.

And that's what it is in Eso, when you send a zerg towards enemy lines, the zerg is gonna loose many people, but who cares? there's always gonna be another little zergling after the next

DezIsDead

Etaniel wrote: »

DezIsDead wrote: »

To be fair "Zerg" is overused in eso, a lot of people call a 24 man group a Zerg due to the fact that 24 man groups tend to bring about lag. But IMO a Zerg is like 28+ . Group sizes are 24 for a reason, anything more should be construed as a Zerg. Due to whatever is causing lag (bad coding or particles, servers, whatever it is) people generalize anything over about 18 as a Zerg

Zerg is overused and missused on eso and on these forums. A 24 man group of people can be a zerg if they run spread out without coordination. A 24 man group that is stacked up is more of a train (lagtrain usually) but they don't just rely on numbers, they rely on coordination. Since most of the time, these 24 man trains run into smaller groups, it seems as if they are only gaining advantage through numbers, when they actually strive to deal with even bigger forces.

You don't need 28 people running together for it to be a zerg... 15-20 unorganized players running all over the place without a clue or just mindlessly following whoever is in front of them constitue a ZERG.

The origin from Starcraft was that you would keep flooding your opponent with a massive number of units, without trying to micro them and without making the most use out of every unit, just piling them upon your opponent's defenses until they gave in.

And that's what it is in Eso, when you send a zerg towards enemy lines, the zerg is gonna loose many people, but who cares? there's always gonna be another little zergling after the next

I can support that, the random no ts pug groups definitely are zergs. I've ran in organized 24 man groups in the past, now I try to stay out of any group bigger than 16. I just get mad when people are like zomg 16 man group takes no skill. Most of the organized groups you see are actually solid players, who are big fans of min maxing. No they won't reck you 1v1 without swapping some skills out, but that's because half their skill slots are group support skills. All the hate for groups are aggravating. But I guess it doesn't matter in the end I haven't been in group bigger than 4 in weeks.

Heathenpride

Had to put this somewhere and this thread just seemed right

Lava_Croft

Zerging is the term used when any amount of enemies larger than yourself or your own group is fighting you.

Lorkhan

TequilaFire

filmoretub17_ESO wrote: »

AD and DC are masters of this just observe.

Oh yeah, never seen a red zerg/blob. lmao

Ezareth

DezIsDead wrote: »

To be fair "Zerg" is overused in eso, a lot of people call a 24 man group a Zerg due to the fact that 24 man groups tend to bring about lag. But IMO a Zerg is like 28+ . Group sizes are 24 for a reason, anything more should be construed as a Zerg. Due to whatever is causing lag (bad coding or particles, servers, whatever it is) people generalize anything over about 18 as a Zerg

To me a 24 man group is a zerg.

I saw a group of 12 EP the other day in a stealth gank group zerging down solo players as they ran to reinforce a battle.

I think Zerg a term relative to the numbers you're facing. If you're continually fighting numbers of players that number anything less than twice the size of your organized group, you're probably zerging.

Back in the days of Murder Thumbs we'd have 24-30 people taking on 200-300. These days it is 24 people taking on 24-48 and there is no competition.