Stop gold scams (simple fix)...

cybergamer5

Patch ESO blood fiends and werewolves to be on a spawn/despawn timer and make them immortal during their spawn time...this will allow those who wish to be infected, to be infected, and it'll stop the wolf/vamp bite scams for gold (and by default stop the selling of any bites in general)!!! Not everyone knows someone with a legit bite to buy, or a friend to get the bite from! Bite scammers and sellers camp the spawn points for blood fiends/werewolves in order to kill them so that people have to resort to buying (which sometimes is legit and sometimes not)...making the blood fiends/werewolves invincible during their spawn time would shut this shady economy down and allow people who want infection to get it via the games natural infectors!!! Don't worry, the fiends/wolves would be on a timer so they won't always be around and any passerbys accidentally infected are easily cured (that's already in the game)! I know legit and scammers will hate this, but ESO needs to be balanced towards players not gold farmers!!!

jircris11

Sadly i have been barking up this tree since a few months out of launch. They will not do it and those v14s will continue killing the spawns just so they can sell their bite.

The_Sadist

Or don't buy bites from people you don't know?

I'm not sure why people can't understand this concept, it's a simple one! In essence, leave the spawns how they currently are, join a werewolf or vampire guild / post on the bite mega thread, get bitten, realise vampirism is soso, cure yourself and go werewolf for the stamina passive. Yes this will mean you'll have to wait, but it would also mean threads like these don't pop up every other day.

Mitchblue

The_Sadist wrote: »

Or don't buy bites from people you don't know?

I'm not sure why people can't understand this concept, it's a simple one! In essence, leave the spawns how they currently are, join a werewolf or vampire guild / post on the bite mega thread, get bitten, realise vampirism is soso, cure yourself and go werewolf for the stamina passive. Yes this will mean you'll have to wait, but it would also mean threads like these don't pop up every other day.

ProfessorKittyhawk

People are impatient for whatever reason and wanna be bitten NOW. They don't want to be put on a waiting list or wait for someone on the mega thread to bite them. I don't see why the spawns couldn't be made immortal to prevent greedy, inconsiderate (or in some cases, ignorant) people from killing the spawns. May not stop bite scamming completely but it would reduce its occurrence.

The_Sadist

ProfessorKittyhawk wrote: »

People are impatient for whatever reason and wanna be bitten NOW. They don't want to be put on a waiting list or wait for someone on the mega thread to bite them. I don't see why the spawns couldn't be made immortal to prevent greedy, inconsiderate (or in some cases, ignorant) people from killing the spawns. May not stop bite scamming completely but it would reduce its occurrence.

Exactly, people are impatient, I don't feel that justifies making a level 40 monster immortal simply because they can't wait for a bite. Those of us on the PC version the game had the same issue and after a month or two it settled down, bites became more available and those farming the spawns were suddenly out of luck. Changing an aspect of the game to appease the impatient is silly, the issue will solve itself in time.

Mitchblue

ProfessorKittyhawk wrote: »

People are impatient for whatever reason and wanna be bitten NOW. They don't want to be put on a waiting list or wait for someone on the mega thread to bite them. I don't see why the spawns couldn't be made immortal to prevent greedy, inconsiderate (or in some cases, ignorant) people from killing the spawns. May not stop bite scamming completely but it would reduce its occurrence.

I feel sorry for those people. Never understood the enjoyment others get from just standing waiting around for spawns/camping.

cybergamer5

In addition to making the fiends/wolves immortal on a timed spawn system...I also propose removing the weekly ability for players to infect other players, in order to further combat the shady bite economy!!! Vamp and Wolf guilds will still be great for running PvP and PvE with only vamps or wolves, but now the new guild members will get infected via the spawned fiends/wolves in the game!!! Problems are solved; no one has to go searching out a specific guild for a bite, or search forums, or risk getting scammed at the spawn areas...vamps can be vamps, wolves can be wolves, and ESO ends up being about fun not gold farming!!! :-)

ZylnorWrath_ESO

ya just give it a couple more weeks, there will be people who if really want it can just ask people without the need of getting scam, its sad that people feel the need to do that, but there is nothing they can do to stop it!

The_Sadist

cybergamer5 wrote: »

In addition to making the fiends/wolves immortal on a timed spawn system...I also propose removing the weekly ability for players to infect other players, in order to further combat the shady bite economy!!! Vamp and Wolf guilds will still be great for running PvP and PvE with only vamps or wolves, but now the new guild members will get infected via the spawned fiends/wolves in the game!!! Problems are solved; no one has to go searching out a specific guild for a bite, or search forums, or risk getting scammed at the spawn areas...vamps can be vamps, wolves can be wolves, and ESO ends up being about fun not gold farming!!! :-)

No thank you, like I said, given enough time you won't need to wait for spawns as there will be enough people to simply over a bite. Every week the number of people who can bite others multiples by two sort of thing, (assuming they're level appropriate and have the passive) so given enough time (another month) you could ask in zone for a bite and odds are you'll receive a free one.
Vampire and werewolf guilds are more for role-play purposes and less about running a vet dungeon with 4 people in werewolf mode sort of thing, but I digress.

I'm very much against both your suggestions as in a month this will all be irrelevant, but that's just me.

JamilaRaj

No way, scammers are absolutely necessary for long term well-being of the bloodsucking race, because they prevent it from being corrupted by masses of gullible simpletons that can not wait.
I urge all brothers and sisters in bloodsucking to take over bite spots and scam like crazy!

TheDarkShadow

Hold on... There is legit and not-legit bite? What does that even mean?

coryevans_3b14_ESO

TheDarkShadow wrote: »

Hold on... There is legit and not-legit bite? What does that even mean?

I honestly don't think there is much common sense here, especially in the OP.

Sithisvoid

Eventually bites will be free just be patient. I bite three people a week with two wolves and one vamp and i ask all i bite to spread it like the plague. Bites should be free. think about it this way when you hit up cyrodil do you want your team to have the stamina and magika bonuses or not? I want powerful allies so i help all i can.

XxTemppyxX

So a noob question..but how do bites work? I plan on staying pure..but i sometimes suspect someone will be a troll and bite me without permission..unless they cant bite another player without the players consent?

Akavir_Sentinel

XxTemppyxX wrote: »

So a noob question..but how do bites work? I plan on staying pure..but i sometimes suspect someone will be a troll and bite me without permission..unless they cant bite another player without the players consent?

I'm fairly sure you have to be in a group with the player giving the bite. You also have to be next to the vamp or ww shrine for it to work. A player can't bite you just wherever and infect you.

Jennifur_Vultee

As I recall Zenimax stated long ago that intentionally killing the NPC blood fiends and werewolves was a reportable/bannable offense because it intentionally and negatively affects other players....also known as griefing. Report them, explain in detail what they're doing.

UrQuan

Akavir_Sentinel wrote: »

XxTemppyxX wrote: »

So a noob question..but how do bites work? I plan on staying pure..but i sometimes suspect someone will be a troll and bite me without permission..unless they cant bite another player without the players consent?

I'm fairly sure you have to be in a group with the player giving the bite. You also have to be next to the vamp or ww shrine for it to work. A player can't bite you just wherever and infect you.

You don't have to be in a group with the person, but you do have to be at the shrine.

Ackwalan

The problem will fix itself. On PC, the bite problem is a thing of the past, you don';t get many scams for bites since more people will bite for free. This will also come to pass on the console side.

jaibierwb17_ESO

XxTemppyxX wrote: »

So a noob question..but how do bites work? I plan on staying pure..but i sometimes suspect someone will be a troll and bite me without permission..unless they cant bite another player without the players consent?

You have to be at the shrine, like others have said, but then you also have to complete the associated quest to become a ww or a vamp. I would recommend at least you consider ww - you get 15% extra stamina regen with no negatives when you are not in ww form. I don't ever use ww, just have it for the stamina.

And prices will settle. On PC you can usually get a bite for free, or for a small tip for time taken.

NadiusMaximus

Or,

Make a certain quest lines have the option to be bitten. Like in almost every other ES game.

Sithisvoid

XxTemppyxX wrote: »

So a noob question..but how do bites work? I plan on staying pure..but i sometimes suspect someone will be a troll and bite me without permission..unless they cant bite another player without the players consent?

I'm pretty sure even if you happened to get bit at a shrine or get infected by mistake you just wait 7 days and it goes away. You CAN do a quest and visit a priest of Arkay but like i said i think it just wears off. It's only permanent if you finish the quest and gain the respective skilline.

dabulls7491

Just make it so that if you are infected you can't attack them.

Pman85

Why change something that will be easy to get in the near future. The more that everyone gang bangs the spawn points the more and more there will be.

not to mention, silver and gold zones also have the spawns.

coryevans_3b14_ESO

Even simpler fix:

WAIT TILL SOMEONE EITHER GIVES YOU ONE OR WAIT UNTIL YOU CAN GET IT YOURSELF.


You're welcome

Junipus

UrQuan wrote: »

Akavir_Sentinel wrote: »

XxTemppyxX wrote: »

So a noob question..but how do bites work? I plan on staying pure..but i sometimes suspect someone will be a troll and bite me without permission..unless they cant bite another player without the players consent?

I'm fairly sure you have to be in a group with the player giving the bite. You also have to be next to the vamp or ww shrine for it to work. A player can't bite you just wherever and infect you.

You don't have to be in a group with the person, but you do have to be at the shrine.

Which is why you'll sometimes see people hanging around the shrines alone hoping to get in the way of someone biting another person to try and get a bite for free.

Kinda the perfect example of time wasting.

Psychobunni

Easiest fix ever: One question upon logging in "Did you like the twilight movies?" ...click yes, you aren't allowed to log in for a year to learn the error of your ways


Jokes aside OP, no fix is required to a problem that sorts itself out

mrskinskull

cybergamer5 wrote: »

Patch ESO blood fiends and werewolves to be on a spawn/despawn timer and make them immortal during their spawn time...this will allow those who wish to be infected, to be infected, and it'll stop the wolf/vamp bite scams for gold (and by default stop the selling of any bites in general)!!! Not everyone knows someone with a legit bite to buy, or a friend to get the bite from! Bite scammers and sellers camp the spawn points for blood fiends/werewolves in order to kill them so that people have to resort to buying (which sometimes is legit and sometimes not)...making the blood fiends/werewolves invincible during their spawn time would shut this shady economy down and allow people who want infection to get it via the games natural infectors!!! Don't worry, the fiends/wolves would be on a timer so they won't always be around and any passerbys accidentally infected are easily cured (that's already in the game)! I know legit and scammers will hate this, but ESO needs to be balanced towards players not gold farmers!!!

That is a good non crown store style suggestion. I agree and wish I had thought of suggesting that.

Snowgoons

The bottom line is:

If you are gonna limit how many times everyone can delete a character to prevent bs, or tell me I cant post a thread trading items with another player, why are the same people allowing this bs to go on?

Answer:

2pac "They don't give a *** about us."

Dante_Ravenkin

as an outside observer to this phenomena, I don't understand why the bloodfiends and werewolves only spawn in certain places at certain times. I think they should have a random chance to show up in any dungeon that's level 35+. Similar to how it worked in past Elder Scrolls games.

B1GREDMONSTER

It's simple replace the warewolfs and vampires skill to bite with a skill to fill a vial with their blood weekly and you simply drink the blood to get infected that way people can sell them via the guild store to avoid scammers