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  • Xantaria
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    HEAL-OFF. My breath of life crits for 50k.

    But who can receive that heal without exploding?

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    Xantaria wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    HEAL-OFF. My breath of life crits for 50k.

    But who can receive that heal without exploding?
    It acts as a 40k shield so I only have to use it once per round. AND my breath of life deals damage to foes.
    #MOREORBS
  • Alcast
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    Just wait guys, we got us a tank now. Albeit with a limited schedule. So EU group has buffs and NA has more CP. The real question is, How many exploits are you guys using? hmmmmmmmmmm..... Anyone care to share?
    Who?
    And believe me, EU has the most CP lol, when Beyond hit up DSA again its gonna be rough

    Your sentence should be "when Beyond hit up DSA with their NEW leveled stamina TEMPLARS again its gonna be rough" ;)
    They still magicka based.

    ang gz to your score :)

    We will try to beat it on sunday i guess.
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  • Gilliamtherogue
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    Silly templars trying to beat the one true DPS class, Gilliam. ;)
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  • andy_s
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    Don't wanna break your fair competition... but
    Roselle wrote: »
    CP OP*

    just put 120 points into The Ritual and open a new world of infinite 2x ultimate gain speed!

    I think 2x more ults would help to improve your scores huh? :P So yes, CP is OP, especially when it's bugged, and probably it is not the only bug.

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    andy.s wrote: »
    Don't wanna break your fair competition... but
    Roselle wrote: »
    CP OP*

    just put 120 points into The Ritual and open a new world of infinite 2x ultimate gain speed!

    I think 2x more ults would help to improve your scores huh? :P So yes, CP is OP, especially when it's bugged, and probably it is not the only bug.

    #ResetLeaderboards

    Yep, I made a thread about it and they ZOS deleted it. So I guess it will be fixed, if not, I will spam all forums.
    Edited by Alcast on July 2, 2015 8:57AM
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  • andy_s
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    Alcast wrote: »
    Yep, I made a thread about it and they ZOS deleted it. So I guess it will be fixed, if not, I will spam all forums.

    One of your dps has 400+ points, so... Stack Camo hunter, get ult bug, go pro :)
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    andy.s wrote: »
    Don't wanna break your fair competition... but
    Roselle wrote: »
    CP OP*

    just put 120 points into The Ritual and open a new world of infinite 2x ultimate gain speed!

    I think 2x more ults would help to improve your scores huh? :P So yes, CP is OP, especially when it's bugged, and probably it is not the only bug.

    #ResetLeaderboards
    even if you reset leaderboards the top players will still be there :/
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  • Suru
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    Alcast wrote: »
    andy.s wrote: »
    Don't wanna break your fair competition... but
    Roselle wrote: »
    CP OP*

    just put 120 points into The Ritual and open a new world of infinite 2x ultimate gain speed!

    I think 2x more ults would help to improve your scores huh? :P So yes, CP is OP, especially when it's bugged, and probably it is not the only bug.

    #ResetLeaderboards

    Yep, I made a thread about it and they ZOS deleted it. So I guess it will be fixed, if not, I will spam all forums.

    I mean if we have top score WITHOUT buffs, it doesn't NEED to be, but anyways if they did I think we have great consistency on our team atm!
    Edited by Suru on July 2, 2015 9:07AM


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  • andy_s
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    andy.s wrote: »
    Don't wanna break your fair competition... but
    Roselle wrote: »
    CP OP*

    just put 120 points into The Ritual and open a new world of infinite 2x ultimate gain speed!

    I think 2x more ults would help to improve your scores huh? :P So yes, CP is OP, especially when it's bugged, and probably it is not the only bug.

    #ResetLeaderboards
    even if you reset leaderboards the top players will still be there :/

    let's see what you say when Senaxu will do 13k with infinite overload one shot everything and 3x more CP than you :)
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  • Fecius
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    Alcast wrote: »
    andy.s wrote: »
    Don't wanna break your fair competition... but
    Roselle wrote: »
    CP OP*

    just put 120 points into The Ritual and open a new world of infinite 2x ultimate gain speed!

    I think 2x more ults would help to improve your scores huh? :P So yes, CP is OP, especially when it's bugged, and probably it is not the only bug.

    #ResetLeaderboards

    Yep, I made a thread about it and they ZOS deleted it. So I guess it will be fixed, if not, I will spam all forums.

    Buuuuut, we definitely know one DPS of your team who has much more than 360 points and for sure is able to use this exploit... ;) Well, ofc I can't be sure does he play fair or not but until the moment this exploit can be used everything is possible...

    I'm still sure that Hodor 1st kill DSA on EU (can’t remember was it world 1st or not, sorry) is much more valuable than this 1st place leaderboard runs with continuously increasing CP that is the greatest influence on the score if everything else is equal. Just get 1200 CP and run it again and you will get better score. In the end of the day I still can't see any sense in this runs since it's not challenging any more: now even lags influence more. IMHO, ofc. If it's enogth entertaining for you then I'm really happy for you.
    Edited by Fecius on July 2, 2015 9:12AM
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  • Gilliamtherogue
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    andy.s wrote: »
    Alcast wrote: »
    Yep, I made a thread about it and they ZOS deleted it. So I guess it will be fixed, if not, I will spam all forums.

    One of your dps has 400+ points, so... Stack Camo hunter, get ult bug, go pro :)

    Camo and Evil hunter both do that, it's been working like that since launch. I bug reported it in beta and was told, "We're quite happy with the way Expert Hunter and its morphs are currently working!" Stop calling exploits and bugs without doing some research. Spreading misinformation should be a crime, maybe then ESO would be a healthier place.

    Last Stand only procs once per instance, so while you do get twice the ult regen (until the passive acquires 1000 ultimate and then stops until you relog/rephase), it's not "infinite". I however, do agree this should be fixed. You'd end up getting more out of it if it was fixed anyways!
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  • Nifty2g
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    andy.s wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    andy.s wrote: »
    Don't wanna break your fair competition... but
    Roselle wrote: »
    CP OP*

    just put 120 points into The Ritual and open a new world of infinite 2x ultimate gain speed!

    I think 2x more ults would help to improve your scores huh? :P So yes, CP is OP, especially when it's bugged, and probably it is not the only bug.

    #ResetLeaderboards
    even if you reset leaderboards the top players will still be there :/

    let's see what you say when Senaxu will do 13k with infinite overload one shot everything and 3x more CP than you :)
    Why'd you quote me and say that? you were just proving what I was saying, 13k is seemingly impossible I think the lowest we can get right now and this is everyone as a whole would be 33-34 minutes.
    #MOREORBS
  • Alcast
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    andy.s wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    andy.s wrote: »
    Don't wanna break your fair competition... but
    Roselle wrote: »
    CP OP*

    just put 120 points into The Ritual and open a new world of infinite 2x ultimate gain speed!

    I think 2x more ults would help to improve your scores huh? :P So yes, CP is OP, especially when it's bugged, and probably it is not the only bug.

    #ResetLeaderboards
    even if you reset leaderboards the top players will still be there :/

    let's see what you say when Senaxu will do 13k with infinite overload one shot everything and 3x more CP than you :)

    they are most likely switching to stamina templars ;) Just give it some time

    Templars+600 CP holy ***. I think you could spawnkill bosses
    Edited by Alcast on July 2, 2015 9:19AM
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  • andy_s
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    Camo and Evil hunter both do that, it's been working like that since launch. I bug reported it in beta and was told, "We're quite happy with the way Expert Hunter and its morphs are currently working!" Stop calling exploits and bugs without doing some research. Spreading misinformation should be a crime, maybe then ESO would be a healthier place.

    Last Stand only procs once per instance, so while you do get twice the ult regen (until the passive acquires 1000 ultimate and then stops until you relog/rephase), it's not "infinite". I however, do agree this should be fixed. You'd end up getting more out of it if it was fixed anyways!

    Where did I call camo hunter a bug? Please, read carefully :) And probably I was the first who told to Alcast about how strange it works.

    By "infinite" ult I mean that it doesn't stop to generate 2x faster than needed for the whole dungeon. And it's a bug, too useful to not make use of it :)
    Edited by andy_s on July 2, 2015 9:22AM
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  • Alcast
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    andy.s wrote: »
    Camo and Evil hunter both do that, it's been working like that since launch. I bug reported it in beta and was told, "We're quite happy with the way Expert Hunter and its morphs are currently working!" Stop calling exploits and bugs without doing some research. Spreading misinformation should be a crime, maybe then ESO would be a healthier place.

    Last Stand only procs once per instance, so while you do get twice the ult regen (until the passive acquires 1000 ultimate and then stops until you relog/rephase), it's not "infinite". I however, do agree this should be fixed. You'd end up getting more out of it if it was fixed anyways!

    Where did I call camo hunter a bug? Please, read carefully :) And probably I was the first who told to Alcast about how strange it works.

    By "infinite" ult I mean that it doesn't stop to generate 2x faster than needed for the whole dungeon. And it's a bug, too useful to not make use of it :)

    Only usefull for Sorcs to et perma overload. Bc we spawnkill so much *** you cant even use ulti lol.

    But sorc with perma overload....30k steady deeps
    Edited by Alcast on July 2, 2015 9:23AM
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  • Nifty2g
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    Alcast wrote: »
    andy.s wrote: »
    Camo and Evil hunter both do that, it's been working like that since launch. I bug reported it in beta and was told, "We're quite happy with the way Expert Hunter and its morphs are currently working!" Stop calling exploits and bugs without doing some research. Spreading misinformation should be a crime, maybe then ESO would be a healthier place.

    Last Stand only procs once per instance, so while you do get twice the ult regen (until the passive acquires 1000 ultimate and then stops until you relog/rephase), it's not "infinite". I however, do agree this should be fixed. You'd end up getting more out of it if it was fixed anyways!

    Where did I call camo hunter a bug? Please, read carefully :) And probably I was the first who told to Alcast about how strange it works.

    By "infinite" ult I mean that it doesn't stop to generate 2x faster than needed for the whole dungeon. And it's a bug, too useful to not make use of it :)

    Only usefull for Sorcs to et perma overload. Bc we spawnkill so much *** you cant even use ulti lol.

    But sorc with perma overload....30k steady deeps
    Yeah but you cant really blame anyone for using it, it's in the game and kinda unavoidable
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  • Fecius
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    Alcast wrote: »
    andy.s wrote: »
    Camo and Evil hunter both do that, it's been working like that since launch. I bug reported it in beta and was told, "We're quite happy with the way Expert Hunter and its morphs are currently working!" Stop calling exploits and bugs without doing some research. Spreading misinformation should be a crime, maybe then ESO would be a healthier place.

    Last Stand only procs once per instance, so while you do get twice the ult regen (until the passive acquires 1000 ultimate and then stops until you relog/rephase), it's not "infinite". I however, do agree this should be fixed. You'd end up getting more out of it if it was fixed anyways!

    Where did I call camo hunter a bug? Please, read carefully :) And probably I was the first who told to Alcast about how strange it works.

    By "infinite" ult I mean that it doesn't stop to generate 2x faster than needed for the whole dungeon. And it's a bug, too useful to not make use of it :)

    Only usefull for Sorcs to et perma overload. Bc we spawnkill so much *** you cant even use ulti lol.

    But sorc with perma overload....30k steady deeps
    Yeah but you cant really blame anyone for using it, it's in the game and kinda unavoidable

    Can you see anyone blame? No. It's just a fact. Fair or not. ;)
    Edited by Fecius on July 2, 2015 9:48AM
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    andy.s wrote: »
    By "infinite" ult I mean that it doesn't stop to generate 2x faster than needed for the whole dungeon. And it's a bug, too useful to not make use of it :)

    You just told me to read more carefully, but you failed to do so right after. Last Stand is only proccing once per instance, meaning you can only get it to last from moment you get it till the generation it adds (3 every 1.5s) up equals 1000 ultimate, in which it will stop and no longer proc (at least for me specifically) until you relog or enter a new zone. 1000 ulimate / 3 ult per 1.5s = 500 total seconds Last stand lasts, which is 8.333 repeating minutes. I don't know what sort of DSA runs you're on that are lasting 8.3 minutes, but I'd love to see them on the leaderboards ;)

    I do indeed have this passive, since Infinity has 3 out of their 4 members running it, and they are my personal main competition. I also have it regardless of if I want it because the CP allocation I have for maximum DPS is all spent there atm. I've only gotten it to proc once per run, despite intentionally dropping under 20% numerous times to try and get it to proc again after it had faded.
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  • Alcast
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    I am still waiting for this, I hope they answer it on ESO Live.
    Alcast wrote: »

    2nd Question:
    Are you planning on creating an Insanity/Nightmare Dragonstar Arena Mode where ALL your CPs are kinda "negated/canceled out". At least this way we would have a challange again.
    > Means, Stronger Enemies, if you wipe reset...etc.


    Before that aint happening, we will not have a fair leaderboard at all anytime soon
    Edited by Alcast on July 2, 2015 9:56AM
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  • Fecius
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    andy.s wrote: »
    By "infinite" ult I mean that it doesn't stop to generate 2x faster than needed for the whole dungeon. And it's a bug, too useful to not make use of it :)

    You just told me to read more carefully, but you failed to do so right after. Last Stand is only proccing once per instance, meaning you can only get it to last from moment you get it till the generation it adds (3 every 1.5s) up equals 1000 ultimate, in which it will stop and no longer proc (at least for me specifically) until you relog or enter a new zone. 1000 ulimate / 3 ult per 1.5s = 500 total seconds Last stand lasts, which is 8.333 repeating minutes. I don't know what sort of DSA runs you're on that are lasting 8.3 minutes, but I'd love to see them on the leaderboards ;)

    I do indeed have this passive, since Infinity has 3 out of their 4 members running it, and they are my personal main competition. I also have it regardless of if I want it because the CP allocation I have for maximum DPS is all spent there atm. I've only gotten it to proc once per run, despite intentionally dropping under 20% numerous times to try and get it to proc again after it had faded.

    Did you try to use your ulty every wave not to reach any time this 1000 cap of ultimate points and not to stop it generation? :D
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    Fecius wrote: »
    andy.s wrote: »
    By "infinite" ult I mean that it doesn't stop to generate 2x faster than needed for the whole dungeon. And it's a bug, too useful to not make use of it :)

    You just told me to read more carefully, but you failed to do so right after. Last Stand is only proccing once per instance, meaning you can only get it to last from moment you get it till the generation it adds (3 every 1.5s) up equals 1000 ultimate, in which it will stop and no longer proc (at least for me specifically) until you relog or enter a new zone. 1000 ulimate / 3 ult per 1.5s = 500 total seconds Last stand lasts, which is 8.333 repeating minutes. I don't know what sort of DSA runs you're on that are lasting 8.3 minutes, but I'd love to see them on the leaderboards ;)

    I do indeed have this passive, since Infinity has 3 out of their 4 members running it, and they are my personal main competition. I also have it regardless of if I want it because the CP allocation I have for maximum DPS is all spent there atm. I've only gotten it to proc once per run, despite intentionally dropping under 20% numerous times to try and get it to proc again after it had faded.

    Did you try to use your ulty every wave not to reach any time this 1000 cap of ultimate points and not to stop it generation? :D

    I honestly hope you're just trying to be a smart ass. Of course I did.
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  • andy_s
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    Fecius wrote: »
    Did you try to use your ulty every wave not to reach any time this 1000 cap of ultimate points and not to stop it generation? :D

    I need a "lol" button :D There are several cases when the generation stops, but they are easy to avoid.

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  • Fecius
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    Fecius wrote: »
    andy.s wrote: »
    By "infinite" ult I mean that it doesn't stop to generate 2x faster than needed for the whole dungeon. And it's a bug, too useful to not make use of it :)

    You just told me to read more carefully, but you failed to do so right after. Last Stand is only proccing once per instance, meaning you can only get it to last from moment you get it till the generation it adds (3 every 1.5s) up equals 1000 ultimate, in which it will stop and no longer proc (at least for me specifically) until you relog or enter a new zone. 1000 ulimate / 3 ult per 1.5s = 500 total seconds Last stand lasts, which is 8.333 repeating minutes. I don't know what sort of DSA runs you're on that are lasting 8.3 minutes, but I'd love to see them on the leaderboards ;)

    I do indeed have this passive, since Infinity has 3 out of their 4 members running it, and they are my personal main competition. I also have it regardless of if I want it because the CP allocation I have for maximum DPS is all spent there atm. I've only gotten it to proc once per run, despite intentionally dropping under 20% numerous times to try and get it to proc again after it had faded.

    Did you try to use your ulty every wave not to reach any time this 1000 cap of ultimate points and not to stop it generation? :D

    I honestly hope you're just trying to be a smart ass. Of course I did.

    Of course I'm a truely smart ass. :D
    Alcast wrote: »
    I am still waiting for this, I hope they answer it on ESO Live.
    Alcast wrote: »

    2nd Question:
    Are you planning on creating an Insanity/Nightmare Dragonstar Arena Mode where ALL your CPs are kinda "negated/canceled out". At least this way we would have a challange again.
    > Means, Stronger Enemies, if you wipe reset...etc.


    Before that aint happening, we will not have a fair leaderboard at all anytime soon

    That's the point indeed. One of a few in this already big thread.
    Edited by Fecius on July 2, 2015 10:07AM
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  • Fecius
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    Fecius wrote: »
    I'm still sure that Hodor 1st kill DSA on EU (can’t remember was it world 1st or not, sorry)

    nope. not even 2nd(bananas), dont know who was 3rd or later.
    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/135231/erste-ad-gilde-eu-dragonstar-arena-veteranen-modus-ohne-dk
    (post in german forum for 1st ad eu kill)

    only thing hodor is good at is trying to abuse "the best class at the moment".

    Ah, they did it 1st on PTS. Now I've memorized.
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  • Xantaria
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    Fecius wrote: »
    I'm still sure that Hodor 1st kill DSA on EU (can’t remember was it world 1st or not, sorry)

    nope. not even 2nd(bananas), dont know who was 3rd or later.
    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/135231/erste-ad-gilde-eu-dragonstar-arena-veteranen-modus-ohne-dk
    (post in german forum for 1st ad eu kill)

    only thing hodor is good at is trying to abuse "the best class at the moment".

    That post says: First Kill vDSA WITHOUT DK. not First Kill. And AFAIK Hodor got World First vDSA kill.

    I remember Whiteclaw was the person who created the tactics that made the kill possible.
    Edited by Xantaria on July 2, 2015 10:52AM
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  • Alcast
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    Fecius wrote: »
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    I'm still sure that Hodor 1st kill DSA on EU (can’t remember was it world 1st or not, sorry)

    nope. not even 2nd(bananas), dont know who was 3rd or later.
    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/135231/erste-ad-gilde-eu-dragonstar-arena-veteranen-modus-ohne-dk
    (post in german forum for 1st ad eu kill)

    Dont troll around, 1st clear Hodor ;) Sadly those players all quite already lol

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    After all, before the VDSA Stage 9 Nerf there werent a lot of teams up on the leaderboard, after the nerf, the titel Boethias Scythe was popping like its christmas day
    Edited by Alcast on July 2, 2015 10:53AM
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  • andy_s
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    Hodor had 1st kill EU, here is the video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-jiMQm1N4c

    1st world is uncertain, because NA did it the same day iirc.

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