my character just doesnt fit right...

Gulug-Ra
Gulug-Ra
im a level 22 argonian sorcerer in the aldmeri dominion, now ive gotten a little more aquainted with the game im realising that maybe making an argonian a sorcerer was a bad idea which could affect me in future, and am thinking of starting up a new Nordic dragon knight in the ebonheart pact.. any thoughts or tips would be heavily welcomed.
  • newtinmpls
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    If you are a min/maxer, then you are right in that you don't have the best combo there.

    if you are enjoying the character, then go for it.

    If you just want to start up another character - then go for it.
    Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
    Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
    Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
    Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.
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    Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
    House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
    Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis
  • Thalmont
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    Don't leave the AD.

    AD is love, AD is life.
  • asteldian
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    If you are giving up on your char due to a lacklustre race, then the last thing you want to do is create a Nord.
  • Johngo0036
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    Hey,

    I created and deleted about 10 chars before i got my right mix,

    Turns out my right mix was BAD but hey i liked it.
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    Orc Stamina Dragonknight | Gru-Bolar(DC)
    Dunmer Magicka Nightblade | Chewbucca(DC)
    Khajit Stamina Nightblade | Gleaming Daggers(DC)
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    Dunmer Magicka Warden | Crafter-O-Crafts(DC)
    Bosmer Stamplar | Forest-Plump(DC)
    Argonian Hybrid Nb | Men-O-Paws(DC)
    Bosmer Stamblade | 'Maui(AD)
    Altmer Magicka Sorcerer | Mid-Life-Crisis(AD)


  • Gulug-Ra
    Gulug-Ra
    well I want a character that will do well in pvp in future, an argonian sorcerer wont really be the best choice for tht, but I do enjoy the AD, maybe a Nordic dragonknight in the AD?
  • BlueViolet
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    That's the beauty of the game - You can pretty much play whatever you like, unless you wish to squeeze every ounce of min / maxing out of your character.
    Some people like doing that, and that's their thing. They love to crunch the numbers.
    Some people just enjoy playing their favourite race in their favourite class, whether the racials synergise or not. It isn't wrong, it's just different.
    You don't need to feel lacking if you're playing how you want to play. Crafted sets boost your stats, so does food, and champion points. There are lots of ways to build a character. Just have fun with it ! :)
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  • Gulug-Ra
    Gulug-Ra
    Or does anybody have any suggestions on decent , enjoyable builds?
  • asteldian
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    Dunmer is a great DK and make excellent magicka builds, decent stamina ones. A good all rounder.
    Bosmer makes fantastic stamina NB builds for PvP.
    Imperial and Redguard make the strongest stamina dps builds and excellent tanks.
    Altmer makes powerful magicka builds.
    Breton makes strong healers and excellent magicka dps builds that don't focus on elemental damage (mainly some Templar and NB builds) also make strong magicka based tanks.
  • Gulug-Ra
    Gulug-Ra
    So in the long run, becoming a redguard dragonknight would fair me better than my argonian sorcerer?
  • pema
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    the Pact welcomes you :)
    We don't know what they will change with the upcoming updates.
    If you are realy keen perhaps wait till the next ESO live, I expect some new info there.
    If they are going for the races/classes again that might be when you want to decide.
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  • Kuroinu
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    It's too bad they didn't make it so you could unlock the other classes with the same character.

    This game is very flexible but it makes hard work of trying out all classes to see which best suits you. It would be interesting at least if we were able to switch one class for another at some sort of cost; maybe even at the Re-dedication shrines, since you are technically re-dedicating yourself to another class, lol.

    Damn, sometimes I just can't help but frustrate myself. I want this to happen now, lol.
  • Septimus_Magna
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    I have an Altmer Sorcerer and a Dunmer DK in the AD, personally I really like the swift play style of the sorc in pvp but DKs can be pretty strong too.

    If you want to be as strong as possible you could re-roll an Altmer sorcerer. Its probably the best race for magicka builds because you get a lot of magicka and magicka regen from the Altmer passives.

    If you want to play a DK I would advise going Dunmer because you get bonus fire damage and extra magicka/stamina from the Dunmer passives.

    The good thing is that level 22 is quite low and you can transfer you gear through the bank so you dont lose anything. My advise would be to re-roll an Altmer sorcerer in the AD, it only takes a few days to reach level 22 now you know what to do and where to go.
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    Septimus Jah'zar - Khajiit Nightblade
    Septimus Nerox - Redguard Warden
    Septimus Ozurk - Orsimer Sorcerer
  • Gulug-Ra
    Gulug-Ra
    I have an Altmer Sorcerer and a Dunmer DK in the AD, personally I really like the swift play style of the sorc in pvp but DKs can be pretty strong too.

    If you want to be as strong as possible you could re-roll an Altmer sorcerer. Its probably the best race for magicka builds because you get a lot of magicka and magicka regen from the Altmer passives.

    If you want to play a DK I would advise going Dunmer because you get bonus fire damage and extra magicka/stamina from the Dunmer passives.

    The good thing is that level 22 is quite low and you can transfer you gear through the bank so you dont lose anything. My advise would be to re-roll an Altmer sorcerer in the AD, it only takes a few days to reach level 22 now you know what to do and where to go.

    Thankyou, then that's what I shall do, the tip on the bank is great also, should really set me off to a great start with all my current gear.
  • UTG_Zilla
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    To be honest I would say to not give up on your argonian just yet. My friend was kinda in your situation, around like level 19 or so she didn't really like her sorcerer but she's level 30 now and liking it a lot more. So, personally, I would say to try to make to level 30 to see for sure if you're going to restart, that's just me tho, if you already know you won't then can I ask a follow up? . If you're doing this because you don't like your race then why make a nord sorcerer? I mean, yea argonians are more healers then sorcerers but it's still magic. Only magic a nord knows is how to make an axe head disappear in a chest cavity :)
  • Gulug-Ra
    Gulug-Ra
    I was going to go with either nord or orc DK UTG , I wouldn't dare make a Nordic sorcerer lol, that's potentially the most useless combo tamriel has to offer, my problem though isn't just race related, with my current character I completely ignored all forms of smithing, crafting , enchanting etc, and I don't feel ive really made the most of what ESOTU has to offer , where as a new build would breath new life into tamriel for me and make me far more confident in what I can do
  • UTG_Zilla
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    Yep, in the op is does say the other class for your new nord lol, prolly why I heard it was good thing to not post within 10 minutes Of waking up lol. I just remember reading it and thinking, wh..why nord sorcerer if he doesn't like a magicka class sorcerer?? Lol so yea sorry for that follow up.

    If you do make a new toon, I would make one in a different pact. Just for that extra freshness and not running around doing what you did the last few days all over again.
    Edited by UTG_Zilla on June 29, 2015 12:25PM
  • LrdRahvin
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    Gulug-Ra wrote: »
    my character just doesnt fit right...

    Have you considered trying XXL?. Just sayin' ;)
    Edited by LrdRahvin on June 29, 2015 12:33PM
  • UTG_Zilla
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    if you're worried about starting over because of crafting. Don't be. Yea crafting is somewhat important but not really "needed" I would say and it's never too late to start. Especially since you're only level 22, it would only require you get to level 5 in each craft (easiest way to level, go to armor shop, steal, deconstruct, repeat.) to be able to make items 15-25 so you're really not that far behind, just 3 skill points from being current in craft and level. But I wouldn't really say that's it's "needed' again. You can survive off quest gear and honestly after level 40 I kinda just stopped making my armors and started farming sets, the only craft I do do tho is blacksmithing but that's just because made weapons are slightly better than made by game. Not by much so it's not drastically important.

    I'm not logged on yet but I want to say level 46 ebony dagger is like 720s damage and made is like 750s damage, not a huge increase but it's enough to make me want to craft at least. Idk how end game will be for weapons tho, like if we're getting all gear from dungeons in pve like most mmo's or still mix matching just what's best so might want to ask some vr14s if crafting really is worth it or not.

    But I wouldn't be worried about starting a new toon just because you're behind in craft.
    Edited by UTG_Zilla on June 29, 2015 12:34PM
  • Merlin13KAGL
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    OP, there is supposed to be some racial bonus adjustment love coming in the near future, though we cannot be sure exactly what that will be.

    Besides, you're not just talking race change, you're talking race + class change.

    If Sorc is not what you're feeling like you want to be, the give it a rest and try another character. Level 20ish doesn't take too long to get in the grand scheme of things and you''re not VR13 level invested.

    If it's simply the race (and the passives or lack thereof), I wouldn't hit the Delete button just yet.

    Once you hit VR, CP's can offset a lot of things, racial's included.
    Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...

    Earn it.

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  • Gulug-Ra
    Gulug-Ra
    thanks for all the advice guys, I may just sit it out with my build till lev 30 ish like suggested above, see if it changes things up for me a little
  • PBpsy
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    A nord or Orc DK will be almost as bad as an Argonian sorc in term of min/maxing. Dunmer DK on the other hand is truly powerful.


    I wouldn't give my main Dunmer NB for anything even if there are better options for both my preferred Magicka NB and Stamina NB builds.
    Edited by PBpsy on June 29, 2015 8:36PM
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  • newtinmpls
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    Gulug-Ra wrote: »
    I was going to go with either nord or orc DK UTG , I wouldn't dare make a Nordic sorcerer lol, that's potentially the most useless combo tamriel has to offer

    I must be ornery.

    Just the fact that you said this makes me interested in trying it ... and I've never been interested in nords.
    Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
    Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
    Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
    Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.
    ***
    Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
    House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
    Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis
  • TheShadowScout
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    Gulug-Ra wrote: »
    ...I wouldn't dare make a Nordic sorcerer lol, that's potentially the most useless combo tamriel has to offer...
    Funny you should mention that...

    I made one of those as my last alt. Nord. Sorceror. Playing him as thunder priest, stamina build, medium armor and two-handed axe, stormcalling as backup to the hacking. I found the combination more effective then I anticipated... may not measure up in PvP to the super-effective people, but its doing very well in PvE, I'm having fun... that's what counts after all.

    So, I'd say to all, don't go min-maxing until everyone plays the same race/class combis, play what you enjoy most driving around tamriel!
  • TalonShina
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    Funny you should mention that...

    I made one of those as my last alt. Nord. Sorceror. Playing him as thunder priest, stamina build, medium armor and two-handed axe, stormcalling as backup to the hacking. I found the combination more effective then I anticipated... may not measure up in PvP to the super-effective people, but its doing very well in PvE, I'm having fun... that's what counts after all.

    So, I'd say to all, don't go min-maxing until everyone plays the same race/class combis, play what you enjoy most driving around tamriel!

    That sounds very interesting. It might be something I try in the future LOL just to see what it's like. I am playing an Argonian NB- healer I was wood elf but I wanted to mix things up a bit and try some new things including race and a different quest line. as well as a race i wouldn't go to normally because of looks. I think I love her.
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