Overleveled for current area issue (?)

SahrotRein

Hey, it has probably happend to all of you, who never leave an area you're currently questing in before you are done with all the places to visit, all dungeons, quests, explorations, dolmens and such. Which then makes you overleveled. It means that if you happen to be higher level than the current animals/monsters/beasts you kill, you won't get any loot or exp. Right now I cannot tell what is the line. I think it used to be at least 5 to 10 levels, perhaps 6, cannot recall. Either way I remember finishing up Shadowfen and traveling to Eastmarch while I was already lvl 39/40 with all of Eastmarch and Rift ahead of me. This is an issue as no monsters and mainly bosses do not drop any items.
I even tried to skip all public dungeons and group dungeons and do them eventually later on so that I would not get overleveled, but if you decide to do all the quests, you'll still end up a bit ahead. That leads me to not mindlessly kill mobs around but only to focus on quests and important things, basically not to collect any "unwanted" exp. That is an issue for me.
This should be changed to at least 10-15levels difference as there is a certainty that you won't start Eastmarch as level 40, but as you should - 30 - 32.

Do you also have problems with being overleveled and not getting any loot and exp? Do you also do everything in each zone as I listed above before you move onto the next or do you just don't care and do what you want?

DenMoria

No. But as a noob, I find my self underleveled ALL the time. It's terribly frustrating.

Nestor

I have taken to skipping content now in the leveling zones. I have ESO Plus so that is a factor. Oh, it's 5 levels over the mobs before you stop getting experience.

However you get CPs for doing Leveling Quests, not just Veteran Quests once you reach Veteran Ranks. So, its actually a good strategy now to skip content and side quests. Sure, you won't get Mob Loot or Exp coming back as a Vet, so public dungeons should be on the list of things to do while you are there, but side quests are perfect to leave behind, if you want to somehow maximize CP gain once you reach Vet levels. I had skipped most of Shadowfen and the Rift and really raked in the CPs when I went back with that character (they were enlightened too)

On the other side of the coin, the loss of experience does slow the leveling down somewhat so the game will catch up with you.

MissBizz

DenMoria wrote: »

No. But as a noob, I find my self underleveled ALL the time. It's terribly frustrating.

@Denmoria it is very likely you are missing some content if you are finding yourself underlevelled. If you're on PC you can use an add-on such as undiscovered (just turn it on once you feel you have finished a zone and it will reveal stuff you missed) If you're on console, unfortunately you're out of luck there.. but check your achievements to make sure they are complete (although this will only be for the bigger questlines), as well, compare your map to a completed one you find online. Also remember, if you get the "quest" achievementment (Completed XX/XX quests in Grahtwood) there are still more quests. (all zones have more quests than needed for that achievement)

Now, to @Eres.. good luck bud. I found myself terribly overlevelled, so I skipped all of Reapers except the main quest line - and skipped all the dungeons etc. in Cold harbour to I would be about V1 when I got to Caldwell Silver. I later went back to ge them for achievements and stuff. I'm not sitting at VR12 in a VR8 zone, although I also overlevel doing to a lot of other thing as well (pledges/dungeons, guild events etc.). The good news is.. your quests don't go grey once you're in the vet area's, so the XP stays pretty good, although yeah.. the drops will be the zone's level.

demendred

I don't mind being a bit over leveled when going against a mob of enemies.

AlnilamE

The limit is 5 levels.

I tend to work on dungeons/world bosses/dolmens first and then work on the quests, as I will always get XP from the quests regardless of level differential.

IXI_WiCKeD_IXI

Move to the next area

RazzPitazz

Nestor wrote: »

I have taken to skipping content now in the leveling zones. I have ESO Plus so that is a factor. Oh, it's 5 levels over the mobs before you stop getting experience.

However you get CPs for doing Leveling Quests, not just Veteran Quests once you reach Veteran Ranks. So, its actually a good strategy now to skip content and side quests. Sure, you won't get Mob Loot or Exp coming back as a Vet, so public dungeons should be on the list of things to do while you are there, but side quests are perfect to leave behind, if you want to somehow maximize CP gain once you reach Vet levels. I had skipped most of Shadowfen and the Rift and really raked in the CPs when I went back with that character (they were enlightened too)

On the other side of the coin, the loss of experience does slow the leveling down somewhat so the game will catch up with you.

To speak on this, I currently have a character that I have willingly avoided the main story add well as both guild stories to determine xp/cp gains. Keeping up levels can get challenging in the latter zones but dungeon runs help to keep this up.

BigM

I have and always be an explorer in MMO's so I don't even care what level I am or what area am in. I explore every hiding place (found some awesome chests by doing it). So if you are into how to really play an awesome MMO then just explore and relax.

No need to rush in these games.

Of course am starting to think this isn't really an MMO any more, in fact am starting to wonder exactly what it is!

Everything I read about this game before it went live just isn't the same animal.

in the famous words of console players, CAN I GET MY MONEY BACK!

Mitchblue

I've been a bit underleveled as well. Usually facing mobs 4-5 levels high. But as long as there's not too many at once it's manageable. I like to explore, next thing I know the mobs are much higher than I am.

Gidorick

I skipped ALL content except guild and main quests in Stormhaven because of this.

This is why I suggest to ZOS that characters scale down to the Zone.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/176972/scale-characters-down-to-older-zones-please-d/p1

Ojustaboo

I wrote a similar post to the OP when PC version first went live.

Takes all the fun out of it for me, in fact when dlc comes along the one thing stopping me subbing is the xp boost.

Personally I would love xp disablers, however I realise people would abuse them in the non vet campaigns, so just make them have zero effect while in Cyrodiil.

Not everyone is in a hurry to level quickly.

Elijah_Crow

During my leveling I skipped almost all of one zone and went back to do the content after I finished the main story line. BTW, have you read the threads about there not being enough content or quests to keep up with the zone levels? Seems some people just need to have the hand holding...

Enemy-of-Coldharbour

My toons tend to always be over-leveled. I'm one of those players that has to kill everything I see and do every quest.

waterfairy

AlnilamE wrote: »

The limit is 5 levels.

I tend to work on dungeons/world bosses/dolmens first and then work on the quests, as I will always get XP from the quests regardless of level differential.

What about when quests go gray? I thought that meant you were beyond it and won't receive any loot or XP.

FancyTuna8

I just figured that I will try to split up all the quests among multiple characters, with only the bare necessity of overlap that might be needed. I actually like that this game seems to have at least 5 characters' worth of quests, if you measured it as xp you get, on average, for questing and exploring, and included all 3 areas.
Only bad thing is I am a bit of a completionist, but in Skyrim I had the same thing happen--too far along in one direction, and suddenly I've got 6 new quests and am completely away from all my previous quests.

Enodoc

Vigarr wrote: »

AlnilamE wrote: »

The limit is 5 levels.

I tend to work on dungeons/world bosses/dolmens first and then work on the quests, as I will always get XP from the quests regardless of level differential.

What about when quests go gray? I thought that meant you were beyond it and won't receive any loot or XP.

Quests go grey when you are 6 levels over them, and the mobs you fight in them won't drop anything, but the quests themselves will still give their XP, gold and item rewards.

Nathrandir

I'm only halfway through Glenumbra with my current character and I'm already struggling to complete low level quests before I outlevel them. I'm deferring progress on the main story and the guild quest lines for now, since they scale with you at least. I wish more content scaled as well.

AngryNord

There REALLY should be a "necklace of slow levelling" or something, that reduces your XP gain by 50% - or disables it completely.

Gidorick

AngryNord wrote: »

There REALLY should be a "necklace of slow levelling" or something, that reduces your XP gain by 50% - or disables it completely.

LOL... They should sell 50% Slower XP scrolls that last for 2 hours. 5 pack for 1000 Crowns.

NewBlacksmurf

You're doing it right if you've done all the quests and end up out of stuff to do.
The zones are designed to allow ppl plenty of opportunities to level without forcing specifics on people.

It's a good design

This gives completion it's opportunity to cap exp while doing everything in each area (this is why the exp stops) but gold and items keep coming. Also considering the dungeons and main quest, guild quests scale with level, you have more options. This is a good thing overall IMO

It's OK to disagree if it's not to your liking

Trayzard

yep... that's the problem with this game while leveling. It's just to easy; you are always overleveled if you do all the quests and the enemies are dropping in 2 seconds, even "bosses". That's why i loved to solo Public Dungeons, that was the only challenge i had.

Rinmaethodain

It also happened to me to overlvl zones a bit but mostly because at some point i grinded few levels out of boredom, killing monsters or farming dolmens waiting for friends to catch up. If i wouldnt grind at all, still i think i would end up being ~3 lvls higher than monsters resulting in getting a little less exp but still getting all the loot.

I really hope that OP didnt grind at all, because if at some point he decided "ill just stay here for a while and kill some monsters, i really meed more SP/AP/stats" then its kind of his fault.

Also, from my experience, not many people are hardcore "must complete all". Overload of content lets those people stay on lvl and dont feel underlvled. They can later come back and discover what they missed.

I think its better when majority of people progress smoothly throught zone (and minority end up overlvled) than more players ending not strong enough to take on next zone.

WelshAssassin1987

Happening to me. I'm around 5 levels higher than the area I'm in. I don't really mind though as enjoy doing the quests.

Rev Rielle

Eres wrote: »

Hey, it has probably happend to all of you, who never leave an area you're currently questing in before you are done with all the places to visit, all dungeons, quests, explorations, dolmens and such. Which then makes you overleveled. It means that if you happen to be higher level than the current animals/monsters/beasts you kill, you won't get any loot or exp. Right now I cannot tell what is the line. I think it used to be at least 5 to 10 levels, perhaps 6, cannot recall. Either way I remember finishing up Shadowfen and traveling to Eastmarch while I was already lvl 39/40 with all of Eastmarch and Rift ahead of me. This is an issue as no monsters and mainly bosses do not drop any items.
I even tried to skip all public dungeons and group dungeons and do them eventually later on so that I would not get overleveled, but if you decide to do all the quests, you'll still end up a bit ahead. That leads me to not mindlessly kill mobs around but only to focus on quests and important things, basically not to collect any "unwanted" exp. That is an issue for me.
This should be changed to at least 10-15levels difference as there is a certainty that you won't start Eastmarch as level 40, but as you should - 30 - 32.

Do you also have problems with being overleveled and not getting any loot and exp? Do you also do everything in each zone as I listed above before you move onto the next or do you just don't care and do what you want?

Unfortunately there were complaints back in beta about the level experience being 'too slow'. So it was balanced out. This unfortunately means that that those of us that like to take our time, not train through enemies, and complete all missions/explore/dungeons/etc that we come across, will have characters significantly over-leveled for the zones they're in. There's really nothing we can do about it.

Admittedly though, the enjoyment I get doing the missions, exploring the places, seeing the sights and so on trumps any material loot reward so it's just something one has to put up with. It is a little boring though, when the enemies are so very trivial to beat; that takes an element of fun out of the game.

shiva7663

Overleveling caters to munchkins who want to reach max level and do PVP as quickly as possible.

mrskinskull

So ESO plus could potentially be closing loot off for its customers? It might be a cool feature of plus if loot dropped without the leveling out. Ex. Level 25 could now get loot from level 5 area with plus if they wanted. It might just be a feature to prevent power farming, huh. Idk. It really hasn't been a problem for me. I guess I'm moving at the right pace through the game.

AngryNord

Gidorick wrote: »

AngryNord wrote: »

There REALLY should be a "necklace of slow levelling" or something, that reduces your XP gain by 50% - or disables it completely.

LOL... They should sell 50% Slower XP scrolls that last for 2 hours. 5 pack for 1000 Crowns.

I'd much rather like an item that stops/halves your XP gain permanently while it is equipped

SamRothstein

I absolutely love the game, but i agree a -50% necklace would be cool. I just got to Eastmarch at 35 and I feel like thats too high. I might be wrong.

Strong bump.

newtinmpls

Enodoc wrote: »

Quests go grey when you are 6 levels over them, and the mobs you fight in them won't drop anything, but the quests themselves will still give their XP, gold and item rewards.

And skill points (for the "main" quests in each alliance).

Tandor

I've certainly found over-leveling a problem, it's why I dropped the sub on my main account as there was no way of disabling the xp boost. I don't have a problem with the amount of content per level, I'd just like to be able to turn down a slider on xp gain.

I think most low-level players who complain about being under-leveled have missed the starter island/zone for their alliance, and with it the skyshards and quests that help with the extra skills and xp. I never start Auridon, Glenumbra and Stonefall before about level 7 or 8.