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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Picking class for semi-new player

Slater_Reed
So i just had a thread on my nightblade lvl 35 and i give up on him, reached a point where iam allways dying without cause or reason, i am not meant to be nightblade. So i ask you, knowing this, what would you recommend, what class, what race, and let me know ur char gender preference, i would be interested in knowing, ty for your help and bye bye lvl 35 nightblade.
I love when i get to download 15gb of worthless data just to get the 500mb patch, its just like waiting for the whole cake to be done when all you want is just the little cherry on the top, hmm Yumi!
  • Ranique
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    I think the other thread has some great feedback for you.
    Vampire and nightblade is in my opinion a very bad match. I also strongly suggest staying away from vampirism on any character. The reason NB and vampire are a bad match is cause vampires are glasscanon. You sacrifice health regen and make yourself more vulnarable for firedamage in order to get more stamina/magica and so more dps. As nightinglbade is great in kiting and killing down single tartgets, you don't have much from the extra stamina/magica. To properly counter the badsides, you need AoE damage (something the NB lacks).

    I think the easiest class to play is a stamina dragonknight. The best races to go with that are Imperial or redguard. A good third would be nord (if you don't have the explorerspack or imperial edition and insist in staying in the ebonheart pact). If you want to try vampire again (which I suggest you don't), you can also choose dunmer (dark elf), cause they come with fire resistance, outcanceling the extra firedamage.

    Stamina dragonknights have very good dps with 1 handed and shield or 2 handed weapons, and also they have a very good defense. I personally use 5 peaces of heavy armor, 1 light and 1 leather (the later are so I level up those lines for any future endgame use). the good dps combined with strong defense makes it very viable in my opinion and easy to play.

    Gender has no effect at all on the game play. But to answer my preference and why. I'm a dude in real life and prefer playing female characters. The reason is that I prefer playing third person and I rather look at a nice womans back then a hairy male one ;) But that is totally personal. Play whatever gender you prefer.
    Through me you pass into the city of woe:
    Through me you pass into eternal pain:
    Through me among the people lost for aye.

    PC player - EU
  • Slater_Reed
    Ranique wrote: »
    I think the other thread has some great feedback for you.
    Vampire and nightblade is in my opinion a very bad match. I also strongly suggest staying away from vampirism on any character. The reason NB and vampire are a bad match is cause vampires are glasscanon. You sacrifice health regen and make yourself more vulnarable for firedamage in order to get more stamina/magica and so more dps. As nightinglbade is great in kiting and killing down single tartgets, you don't have much from the extra stamina/magica. To properly counter the badsides, you need AoE damage (something the NB lacks).

    I think the easiest class to play is a stamina dragonknight. The best races to go with that are Imperial or redguard. A good third would be nord (if you don't have the explorerspack or imperial edition and insist in staying in the ebonheart pact). If you want to try vampire again (which I suggest you don't), you can also choose dunmer (dark elf), cause they come with fire resistance, outcanceling the extra firedamage.

    Stamina dragonknights have very good dps with 1 handed and shield or 2 handed weapons, and also they have a very good defense. I personally use 5 peaces of heavy armor, 1 light and 1 leather (the later are so I level up those lines for any future endgame use). the good dps combined with strong defense makes it very viable in my opinion and easy to play.

    Gender has no effect at all on the game play. But to answer my preference and why. I'm a dude in real life and prefer playing female characters. The reason is that I prefer playing third person and I rather look at a nice womans back then a hairy male one ;) But that is totally personal. Play whatever gender you prefer.

    Ok then just let me make this one question plz, do you believe that if i remove vampirism my gameplay experience and difficulty overall will change, ty for your help, you seem to know your eso
    I love when i get to download 15gb of worthless data just to get the 500mb patch, its just like waiting for the whole cake to be done when all you want is just the little cherry on the top, hmm Yumi!
  • Ranique
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    "Ok then just let me make this one question plz, do you believe that if i remove vampirism my gameplay experience and difficulty overall will change, ty for your help, you seem to know your eso"

    A: Yes I do believe you should atleast try it. nightblade will still be a single target class. That doesn't change it. But in general mobs in ESO are mixed. So if there is more then just one or two, there will always be something like a pyromancer in it and often more. So I estimate that without vampirism you can survive agaisnt larger mobs for 75% longer, that should give you enough time to kille enough mobs to take the pressure off. It might still be that you want a class more strudy or more specialised in AoE, but atleast you know and experienced the class in its full potential instead of limiting yourself to a poor setup.

    If you do, don't forget to reset your skillpoints first. All skillpoints invested in the vampire skillline will be gone when you cure yourself. So better to not have any points invested in it when you do so.
    Through me you pass into the city of woe:
    Through me you pass into eternal pain:
    Through me among the people lost for aye.

    PC player - EU
  • Slater_Reed
    Thank you, i will try it then!
    I love when i get to download 15gb of worthless data just to get the 500mb patch, its just like waiting for the whole cake to be done when all you want is just the little cherry on the top, hmm Yumi!
  • Slater_Reed
    Ranique wrote: »
    "Ok then just let me make this one question plz, do you believe that if i remove vampirism my gameplay experience and difficulty overall will change, ty for your help, you seem to know your eso"

    A: Yes I do believe you should atleast try it. nightblade will still be a single target class. That doesn't change it. But in general mobs in ESO are mixed. So if there is more then just one or two, there will always be something like a pyromancer in it and often more. So I estimate that without vampirism you can survive agaisnt larger mobs for 75% longer, that should give you enough time to kille enough mobs to take the pressure off. It might still be that you want a class more strudy or more specialised in AoE, but atleast you know and experienced the class in its full potential instead of limiting yourself to a poor setup.

    If you do, don't forget to reset your skillpoints first. All skillpoints invested in the vampire skillline will be gone when you cure yourself. So better to not have any points invested in it when you do so.

    Omg, you are a genius, i removed vampirism, and now iam able to beat minibosses that oneshotted me pretty much, without breaking a sweat, ty you are a genius, no more vampirism for my nightblade, i could kiss u right now
    I love when i get to download 15gb of worthless data just to get the 500mb patch, its just like waiting for the whole cake to be done when all you want is just the little cherry on the top, hmm Yumi!
  • Aett_Thorn
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    I am glad that Ranique's advice worked for you, and I hope that you continue to have fun with your current character.

    That being said, and going back to your original question: I have found that Templar's work very well for me. I think that they are very versatile, and allow you to survive things that you probably shouldn't while still putting out decent damage (especially in melee). So if you still find you're having trouble with the Nightblade, I would try Templars out.
  • Ranique
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    Ranique wrote: »
    "Ok then just let me make this one question plz, do you believe that if i remove vampirism my gameplay experience and difficulty overall will change, ty for your help, you seem to know your eso"

    A: Yes I do believe you should atleast try it. nightblade will still be a single target class. That doesn't change it. But in general mobs in ESO are mixed. So if there is more then just one or two, there will always be something like a pyromancer in it and often more. So I estimate that without vampirism you can survive agaisnt larger mobs for 75% longer, that should give you enough time to kille enough mobs to take the pressure off. It might still be that you want a class more strudy or more specialised in AoE, but atleast you know and experienced the class in its full potential instead of limiting yourself to a poor setup.

    If you do, don't forget to reset your skillpoints first. All skillpoints invested in the vampire skillline will be gone when you cure yourself. So better to not have any points invested in it when you do so.

    Omg, you are a genius, i removed vampirism, and now iam able to beat minibosses that oneshotted me pretty much, without breaking a sweat, ty you are a genius, no more vampirism for my nightblade, i could kiss u right now

    Your welcome :smiley:

    If you want to be a vampire on e.g. a secondairy character in the future. I find that templar dark elves are really suited for them. Templars are very good magica healers. dunmer gives a nice boost to magica and they revert the fire damage. Cause of the good healing, you out cancel the health regen limitation and cause of the fire restistance you out cancel the extra fire damage (mostly). So all in all great healers.
    Through me you pass into the city of woe:
    Through me you pass into eternal pain:
    Through me among the people lost for aye.

    PC player - EU
  • Slater_Reed
    Thank you again guys, i would have been lost without your advices, and ill try templar out sometime ty very much
    I love when i get to download 15gb of worthless data just to get the 500mb patch, its just like waiting for the whole cake to be done when all you want is just the little cherry on the top, hmm Yumi!
  • Sithisvoid
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    DK Magicka Destro/resto vampire for the win. Dunmer of course
    Edited by Sithisvoid on June 19, 2015 12:53PM
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