Deconstructiong question

stairwaytwoheavenb16_ESO

1) If you have level 3 of the passive that improves chances of extracting higher quality items, can you get higher quality items if you deconstruct thing higher then you can craft.? In other words, if that passive affected by the first passive in the list (the one that has 9 upgrades and affects your ability to craft higher level item).
Just wondering if i get level 3 in wood extracting but have level 1 in the first passive, will i be getting the most out of deconstructing high level its. (veteran for example)

I ask this because i hoarded blue items from pc and want to deconstruct them on a character that has level 3 in extracting skill but i don't really want to craft just yet so i want to minimize the points i put into the first passive..


2) The same as above question, is your hireling level 3 going to be giving you top end stuff if your first passive is level 1 (out of 9).


3) Does the color of the item (white, green, blue, purple, yellow) affect how much xp (inspiration points) you get from deconstructing an item? Or is it simply the level of the item that affects how much inspiration points you get. This strictly taking about things i find as drops, not that i craft.

Again building on my first question. Is there any point in hoarding my blue level items to deconstruct on a new character if im not going to get extra xp from it.. Might as well decon them on my main crafter and get the most out of them.

thanks guys

Nestor

When you decon from above your level, and Material Level is another factor here, you get less stuff back, actually, you get nothing back if it's more than a few levels above the character. Also, deconning high level items on a low level character does not give you big inspiration like it used to. On other hand, a VR Ranked character just starting out in crafting rakes in the Inspiration deconning high level items.

So, my advice is, if the stuff is higher level, use your main to decon it, stuff that is on or near your other character's level, use that character. Once your other character gets some levels, and some materials points, then they start to see the higher inspiration from higher level items. I miss the days of getting an entire level from deconning one VR12 item.

I don't remember if there is much of a difference in Green or Blue vs White deconning. I don't think it's much if there is a difference. I tend to do this in a massive click fest so I don't pay any attention to it.

Wreuntzylla

This is how it has worked in the past, it may have changed with 1.6.

1) You always extract the material level of the item. The passive gives a higher chance of recovering the components that go into making the item. In other words, if you deconstruct a blue voidsteel helmet, you can recover voidsteel, dwarven oil, the trait corresponding to the item, and the style corresponding to the item.

However, deconstruction of higher level items is limited based both on the passive and the item level as compared to your character level. If you deconstruct an item that has an item level significantly higher than your character level, the game will actually provide you a message in the upper right hand corner telling you that some materials could not be recovered due to your character level.

2) I don't think the first passive matters. In other words, if you have metalworking 1, and deconstruct a voidsteel helmet, you can still recover voidsteel. I don't recall if it matters as to how much of it you recover.

3) The quality of the item matters. Deconstructing a gold item gives more inspiration than deconstructing a purple item, and so on. If you search the internets, you will find charts detailing the inspiration gained by level and quality.

Edit: Yes, I deconstruct VR level items on low level alts to get increased inspiration.

Nestor

Wreuntzylla wrote: »

Edit: Yes, I deconstruct VR level items on low level alts to get increased inspiration.

This changed with 1.6. Bummed me out. Someone posted that once the character gets to the teens in level, the Inspiration is more like one would expect. I just know on a VR Rank, you get almost what you expect, but still not as much as before if the craft level is low.

stairwaytwoheavenb16_ESO

ohh ok, so the first passive doesnt affect if i get better drops (the one that has 9 levels)..

But your level affects what you get so if you break down something that is Vet 3 and you are level 26 then you probably wont get all the mats.

Does it only affect the iron or wood or cloth type? Or does it also affect the type of improvement item you get (honing stone etc)?

Nestor

The passive will increase the chance to get the Tempers if you are not so underleveled you don't get any mats.

Thing is, Tempers are hard to get and you want to max your chances to get them. You get them from Decon, and Refining raw materials too. You also get them from Hirelings and Crafting Writs too. The Extraction Passive has an affect on all of these. But I also have L6 Mules with Hirelings that get Tempers all the time, so it probably does not affect the hirelings for Equipment all that much, just for Enchanting.

Hirelings are a great source of Green, Blue and Purple mats, Gold ones not so much. Crafting Writs are better than hirelings for Gold Tempers, but not so great that they are your only source.

Thing is, your not going to improve much if anything to Blue or Better until Vet Ranks or maybe L40's and above. You level too fast and the Tempers are too expensive/rare/hard to replace. You will have Greens coming out of your ears from Deconning and Refining and HIrelings.