Emperor trophy/achievement.

JarekReanimated · June 2015

Is becoming an emperor an achievement on PC? I haven't played the PC version outside of the beta so I'm not even sure if there are achievements, but after looking at the requirements and reading this thread and others around the internet that have changed the decisions of potential buyers to not buying because of said achievement it got me wondering why they would include it, especially considering that it will be a lot easier (albeit still extremely difficult) for those who have transferred characters from PC, making it even harder for those starting from scratch, which is extremely unfair.

So my question is, what the heck is Zenimax thinking?

AlnilamE · June 2015

Whaaaaat?

You are saying people are not going to buy the game because they can't get the Emperor achievement?

Have you been to PvP?

ThePonzzz · June 2015

Yes this an achievement on the PC. Yes 99% of us will never see it.

Nestor · June 2015

You don't want the Emperor Skill line unlocked, nor do you want the Buffs the Emperor gets, nor do you want the title that comes with the accomplishment?

But, if your motivation is just the Achievement, then you can get one of those too

http://www.esohead.com/achievements/935-emperor

JarekReanimated · June 2015

Nestor wrote: »

You don't want the Emperor Skill line unlocked, nor do you want the Buffs the Emperor gets, nor do you want the title that comes with the accomplishment?

But, if your motivation is just the Achievement, then you can get one of those too

http://www.esohead.com/achievements/935-emperor

I'm still getting the game and don't really care about becoming emperor in the grand scheme of things because I know I'll still enjoy the game and get a lot of hours out of it, but I do think it's unfair that an already extremely difficult accomplishement is made more difficult because it gives transferred players an early edge, or so it seems. Like I said in the OP, I've not played the game outside of the beta.

It just seems to be getting a lot of backlash from people that's all.

KrisButtar · June 2015

AlnilamE wrote: »

Whaaaaat?

You are saying people are not going to buy the game because they can't get the Emperor achievement?

Have you been to PvP?

Yeah I know a number of people in real life who cancelled because of this(XBL/PSN). There are a number on my PSN that won't touch the game now either

. They be called trophy hunters and they only play games to increase their trophy score as that's what's fun for them.

JarekReanimated · June 2015

KrisButtar wrote: »

AlnilamE wrote: »

Whaaaaat?

You are saying people are not going to buy the game because they can't get the Emperor achievement?

Have you been to PvP?

Yeah I know a number of people in real life who cancelled because of this(XBL/PSN). There are a number on my PSN that won't touch the game now either . They be called trophy hunters and they only play games to increase their trophy score as that's what's fun for them.

Yep, there are a lot of people who bought the hannah montana game just because it's an extremely easy platinum/100%. They can be ridiculous. But it definitely affects sales.

Trine 2 is another example where you didn't even have to finish the game, you could platinum it by the 4th or 5th chapter and lots of people never played until the end. So when they released the complete edition they changed a lot of the requirements so people would actually be forced to play the whole game.

AlnilamE · June 2015

But getting Emperor is not *that* hard. If you like PvP, it's probably on par with the Master Angler achievement in terms of time invested.

Nifty2g · June 2015

Don't give up, I'm sure Emp Flipping on console will be thing

Nifty2g · June 2015

I assume on console it's going to take less and the battles wont be as intense as they are on PC, it's just going to take some time because I do believe emp flipping will make its way around to console which will ruin pvp and everyone will take turns for their trophies. Damn I can't stand emp flipping

JarekReanimated · June 2015

AlnilamE wrote: »

But getting Emperor is not *that* hard. If you like PvP, it's probably on par with the Master Angler achievement in terms of time invested.

That can be done solo though right? From what I've read it seems that Emperor is highly depended on so many other players and factors. If it was something that can be done solo then players would grind it out.

Nifty2g · June 2015

JarekReanimated wrote: »

AlnilamE wrote: »

But getting Emperor is not *that* hard. If you like PvP, it's probably on par with the Master Angler achievement in terms of time invested.

That can be done solo though right? From what I've read it seems that Emperor is highly depended on so many other players and factors. If it was something that can be done solo then players would grind it out.

I grinded it out solo, took me 16 hours though then asked my guild to help take the keeps. However, it wont be like that on console it's hard to tell what will happen. But it wont be as hard to flip emperor most likely.

AlnilamE · June 2015

Well, the Master Angler achievement can be gotten solo, but it's much easier if you fish in a group because of higher chances of catching rare fish when more than one player is at the fishing spot.

The same thing can be said about the Emperor achievement. I will let more serious PvPers chime in, but as far as I know, there are a lot of solo players in Cyrodiil.

Also keep in mind that there is a non-vet campaign where all the V14 that are transferring can't play. I hear it's a lot of fun over there.

Master_Fluff · June 2015

Becoming emperor is a lot of hard work. Emperor assasin and the Regicide Red colour that goes with it on the other hand, is alot easier.

KrisButtar · June 2015

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JarekReanimated wrote: »

KrisButtar wrote: »

AlnilamE wrote: »

Whaaaaat?

You are saying people are not going to buy the game because they can't get the Emperor achievement?

Have you been to PvP?

Yeah I know a number of people in real life who cancelled because of this(XBL/PSN). There are a number on my PSN that won't touch the game now either . They be called trophy hunters and they only play games to increase their trophy score as that's what's fun for them.

Yep, there are a lot of people who bought the hannah montana game just because it's an extremely easy platinum/100%. They can be ridiculous. But it definitely affects sales.

Trine 2 is another example where you didn't even have to finish the game, you could platinum it by the 4th or 5th chapter and lots of people never played until the end. So when they released the complete edition they changed a lot of the requirements so people would actually be forced to play the whole game.

It does drive sales. I'm far from being a trophy hunter but sometimes the trophy difficulty is the deciding factor when your already on the fence about the purchase. Its been like that for me a few times and yet I never did platinum those games but I did purchase them thinking I would. Haven't traded them in either as I figure I'll go back sometime and get it.

ThePonzzz · June 2015

AlnilamE wrote: »

But getting Emperor is not *that* hard. If you like PvP, it's probably on par with the Master Angler achievement in terms of time invested.

Whaaat? Time investment is one thing, but you can't compare the involvement with PvP to fishing. That's very misleading.

Nerio · June 2015

ThePonzzz wrote: »

AlnilamE wrote: »

But getting Emperor is not *that* hard. If you like PvP, it's probably on par with the Master Angler achievement in terms of time invested.

Whaaat? Time investment is one thing, but you can't compare the involvement with PvP to fishing. That's very misleading.

You can if you got Master Angler on a PvP server, though that can make it even easier to be honest.

Drazhar14 · June 2015

I find this hilarious. Are people really that obsessed with getting every achievement or trophy? Does that number equate to their sense of accomplishment in life? It's a video game. Play it for fun.

Nerio · June 2015

While I get that there are people who feel the need to max trophies in every game they play, I do think that those who go through the long, difficult process of getting emperor deserve to see that trophy pop up when it finally happens. Their experience shouldn't be made underwhelming to cater to people who think it's too hard.

AlnilamE · June 2015

Well, wait until they find out about the Grand Overlord Achievement.

Nestor · June 2015

JarekReanimated wrote: »

I'm still getting the game and don't really care about becoming emperor in the grand scheme of things because I know I'll still enjoy the game and get a lot of hours out of it, but I do think it's unfair that an already extremely difficult accomplishement is made more difficult because it gives transferred players an early edge, or so it seems. Like I said in the OP, I've not played the game outside of the beta.

It just seems to be getting a lot of backlash from people that's all.

You were not clear about that. Yes, anyone who transfers over will have a leg up on being Emperor, but that applies to all PvP and Trials too. However, being Emperor is just something that takes time more than anything else. I don't think the transfers will matter all that much past the first couple of months, if that long.

A good Guild can do more to make someone an Emperor than the Skills or CPs that they have.

Garion · June 2015

Nestor wrote: »

JarekReanimated wrote: »

I'm still getting the game and don't really care about becoming emperor in the grand scheme of things because I know I'll still enjoy the game and get a lot of hours out of it, but I do think it's unfair that an already extremely difficult accomplishement is made more difficult because it gives transferred players an early edge, or so it seems. Like I said in the OP, I've not played the game outside of the beta.

It just seems to be getting a lot of backlash from people that's all.

You were not clear about that. Yes, anyone who transfers over will have a leg up on being Emperor, but that applies to all PvP and Trials too. However, being Emperor is just something that takes time more than anything else. I don't think the transfers will matter all that much past the first couple of months, if that long.

A good Guild can do more to make someone an Emperor than the Skills or CPs that they have.

On a shite buff campaign perhaps, but not on a competitive server.

JarekReanimated · June 2015

AlnilamE wrote: »

Well, wait until they find out about the Grand Overlord Achievement.

I don't think that would be an issue, in fact no one seems to be complaining about that one. It's the issue of depending on other players and the fact that you have to grind emperor consecutively and devote so much to it, where as reaching a certain level can be achieved by played a couple hours a day for years.