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Grouped vet characters..

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO
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From the Patch today:"Grouped Veteran Rank player characters of any level will now receive both experience and loot credit, regardless of their contribution."

Anyone else think that this should have been put in the game like a year+ ago. LOL Really...
Signed, Kotaro Atani.PS5 NA
VR16/ CP 160 Khajiit Nightblade of the Aldmeri Dominion, Guildmaster and Assassin of the Queen's Hand guild on NA PC. PvP Officer in the WOLF guild on NA PS5, and of course Master Thief. Currently 3365 CP out of 3600 CP on NA PS5. Currently 810 CP on NA PC (used for PTS testing purposes only). On PS5 I am also a Master Crafter, all traits done and learned, Jewelry crafting done. all Motifs learned on PS5 except for maybe two-three Motifs. Both Companions are Max level as are their Skills.Warrior, Lover, Thief.... Nightblade. Aldmeri Dominion For Life! For the Queen!! Go Dominion or go home ! "I have no hatred for the races of Man, but they are young. Like all children, they are driven by emotion. They lack the wisdom that comes with age. I would sooner place an Altmer infant on the Ruby Throne than surrender Tamriel to their capricious whims. The Altmer, the Bosmer and the Khajiit share the common traits of intelligence, patience and reason. We do not seek riches or plunder. Domination is not our goal, nor is the acclamation of power for its own sake. Today we make our stand. Today we take back the Ruby Throne, which is ours by ancient right and the blessings of the Divines. Stand with us." ―Your Queen Commands, Ayrenn Arana Aldmeri.(All 18 characters are AD only! This one is a AD Loyalist)Member of ESO Since January 29, 2014, started early Access 3/30/14 on PC, currently subbed on NA PS5 and on NA PC. Note- I only use PC for PTS testing purposes, the PS5 is my dedicated Game Platform.Note- for those that don't know how to say Kotaro Atani it's "Ko tar row Ah ta ni" (Ko with a Oh sound, tar which sounds like the sticky black tar stuff, row like rowing a boat, Ah with a AHHHH sound, Ta with a Tahhh sound, Neeee which sounds like knee)"The blowing sands of time wipe clean the footprints of the past...""Moonsugar may be the key to paradise, but it is through a false door...""A perfect society is always elsewhere..."- Unknown book of Khajiiti proverbs.
  • Cuyler
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    It was in the game a year ago, but was changed in patch 1.5/6?
    Guild: STACK n BURN (gm) PC - NA
    CP 810 18 Maxed Characters:
    "How hard can u guar?" - Rafishul[/spoiler]
  • whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO
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    Cuyler wrote: »
    It was in the game a year ago, but was changed in patch 1.5/6?

    Then I don't remember seeing it..or seeing it's results, it's always been "you need to be within 5 levels of each other to get xp..."
    Edited by whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO on June 1, 2015 4:37PM
    Signed, Kotaro Atani.PS5 NA
    VR16/ CP 160 Khajiit Nightblade of the Aldmeri Dominion, Guildmaster and Assassin of the Queen's Hand guild on NA PC. PvP Officer in the WOLF guild on NA PS5, and of course Master Thief. Currently 3365 CP out of 3600 CP on NA PS5. Currently 810 CP on NA PC (used for PTS testing purposes only). On PS5 I am also a Master Crafter, all traits done and learned, Jewelry crafting done. all Motifs learned on PS5 except for maybe two-three Motifs. Both Companions are Max level as are their Skills.Warrior, Lover, Thief.... Nightblade. Aldmeri Dominion For Life! For the Queen!! Go Dominion or go home ! "I have no hatred for the races of Man, but they are young. Like all children, they are driven by emotion. They lack the wisdom that comes with age. I would sooner place an Altmer infant on the Ruby Throne than surrender Tamriel to their capricious whims. The Altmer, the Bosmer and the Khajiit share the common traits of intelligence, patience and reason. We do not seek riches or plunder. Domination is not our goal, nor is the acclamation of power for its own sake. Today we make our stand. Today we take back the Ruby Throne, which is ours by ancient right and the blessings of the Divines. Stand with us." ―Your Queen Commands, Ayrenn Arana Aldmeri.(All 18 characters are AD only! This one is a AD Loyalist)Member of ESO Since January 29, 2014, started early Access 3/30/14 on PC, currently subbed on NA PS5 and on NA PC. Note- I only use PC for PTS testing purposes, the PS5 is my dedicated Game Platform.Note- for those that don't know how to say Kotaro Atani it's "Ko tar row Ah ta ni" (Ko with a Oh sound, tar which sounds like the sticky black tar stuff, row like rowing a boat, Ah with a AHHHH sound, Ta with a Tahhh sound, Neeee which sounds like knee)"The blowing sands of time wipe clean the footprints of the past...""Moonsugar may be the key to paradise, but it is through a false door...""A perfect society is always elsewhere..."- Unknown book of Khajiiti proverbs.
  • anitajoneb17_ESO
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    From the Patch today:"Grouped Veteran Rank player characters of any level will now receive both experience and loot credit, regardless of their contribution."

    Anyone else think that this should have been put in the game like a year+ ago. LOL Really...

    Now you have it, but instead of enjoying things being the way you wanted them, you prefer to go on complaining that it should have been done earlier. Never happy, huh ? Or just happy to complain.

    I think the limit made sense but in practice it seems to be difficult to form groups with people of matching levels and matching roles so system is changed for more flexibilty and that's good.



  • whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO
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    From the Patch today:"Grouped Veteran Rank player characters of any level will now receive both experience and loot credit, regardless of their contribution."

    Anyone else think that this should have been put in the game like a year+ ago. LOL Really...

    Now you have it, but instead of enjoying things being the way you wanted them, you prefer to go on complaining that it should have been done earlier. Never happy, huh ? Or just happy to complain.

    I think the limit made sense but in practice it seems to be difficult to form groups with people of matching levels and matching roles so system is changed for more flexibilty and that's good.


    I am very Happy about this change, but it just seems that it is sooooo Console related... not that that's a bad thing... it's just that it's about time it was changed to this.. I have been with this game from Early access ya know and seen all the grouping problems and such.. and finally Now My VR14 can hang out with VR1's and we all can get xp and loot together from whoever kills the enemy / monsters..
    Signed, Kotaro Atani.PS5 NA
    VR16/ CP 160 Khajiit Nightblade of the Aldmeri Dominion, Guildmaster and Assassin of the Queen's Hand guild on NA PC. PvP Officer in the WOLF guild on NA PS5, and of course Master Thief. Currently 3365 CP out of 3600 CP on NA PS5. Currently 810 CP on NA PC (used for PTS testing purposes only). On PS5 I am also a Master Crafter, all traits done and learned, Jewelry crafting done. all Motifs learned on PS5 except for maybe two-three Motifs. Both Companions are Max level as are their Skills.Warrior, Lover, Thief.... Nightblade. Aldmeri Dominion For Life! For the Queen!! Go Dominion or go home ! "I have no hatred for the races of Man, but they are young. Like all children, they are driven by emotion. They lack the wisdom that comes with age. I would sooner place an Altmer infant on the Ruby Throne than surrender Tamriel to their capricious whims. The Altmer, the Bosmer and the Khajiit share the common traits of intelligence, patience and reason. We do not seek riches or plunder. Domination is not our goal, nor is the acclamation of power for its own sake. Today we make our stand. Today we take back the Ruby Throne, which is ours by ancient right and the blessings of the Divines. Stand with us." ―Your Queen Commands, Ayrenn Arana Aldmeri.(All 18 characters are AD only! This one is a AD Loyalist)Member of ESO Since January 29, 2014, started early Access 3/30/14 on PC, currently subbed on NA PS5 and on NA PC. Note- I only use PC for PTS testing purposes, the PS5 is my dedicated Game Platform.Note- for those that don't know how to say Kotaro Atani it's "Ko tar row Ah ta ni" (Ko with a Oh sound, tar which sounds like the sticky black tar stuff, row like rowing a boat, Ah with a AHHHH sound, Ta with a Tahhh sound, Neeee which sounds like knee)"The blowing sands of time wipe clean the footprints of the past...""Moonsugar may be the key to paradise, but it is through a false door...""A perfect society is always elsewhere..."- Unknown book of Khajiiti proverbs.
  • Cuyler
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    Cuyler wrote: »
    It was in the game a year ago, but was changed in patch 1.5/6?

    Then I don't remember seeing it..or seeing it's results, it's always been "you need to be within 5 levels of each other to get xp..."

    Nope... before patch 1.5 and the craglorn nerfs you could go do the upper crag grinds with 12-man groups at v1 and receive full xp for the groups kills no matter what level they were..
    Edited by Cuyler on June 1, 2015 4:55PM
    Guild: STACK n BURN (gm) PC - NA
    CP 810 18 Maxed Characters:
    "How hard can u guar?" - Rafishul[/spoiler]
  • Nestor
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    As stated above, it used to be this way, where all VR's got Exp if they were grouped. Once that changed, it became much harder to get groups together for Vet Dungeons.
    Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.

    PakKat "Everything was going well, until I died"
    Gary Gravestink "I am glad you died, I needed the help"

  • NewBlacksmurf
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    From the Patch today:"Grouped Veteran Rank player characters of any level will now receive both experience and loot credit, regardless of their contribution."

    Anyone else think that this should have been put in the game like a year+ ago. LOL Really...

    Now you have it, but instead of enjoying things being the way you wanted them, you prefer to go on complaining that it should have been done earlier. Never happy, huh ? Or just happy to complain.

    I think the limit made sense but in practice it seems to be difficult to form groups with people of matching levels and matching roles so system is changed for more flexibilty and that's good.


    I am very Happy about this change, but it just seems that it is sooooo Console related... not that that's a bad thing... it's just that it's about time it was changed to this.. I have been with this game from Early access ya know and seen all the grouping problems and such.. and finally Now My VR14 can hang out with VR1's and we all can get xp and loot together from whoever kills the enemy / monsters..

    Please don't blame the console. The game isn't even out. This is 100% PC related
    -PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
    ~<{[50]}>~ looks better than *501
  • glak
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    From the Patch today:"Grouped Veteran Rank player characters of any level will now receive both experience and loot credit, regardless of their contribution."

    Anyone else think that this should have been put in the game like a year+ ago. LOL Really...

    Now you have it, but instead of enjoying things being the way you wanted them, you prefer to go on complaining that it should have been done earlier. Never happy, huh ? Or just happy to complain.

    I think the limit made sense but in practice it seems to be difficult to form groups with people of matching levels and matching roles so system is changed for more flexibilty and that's good.


    I am very Happy about this change, but it just seems that it is sooooo Console related... not that that's a bad thing... it's just that it's about time it was changed to this.. I have been with this game from Early access ya know and seen all the grouping problems and such.. and finally Now My VR14 can hang out with VR1's and we all can get xp and loot together from whoever kills the enemy / monsters..

    Please don't blame the console. The game isn't even out. This is 100% PC related
    Console beta feedback may have helped, but more than likely a reversal via management changes.
  • NewBlacksmurf
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    glak wrote: »
    From the Patch today:"Grouped Veteran Rank player characters of any level will now receive both experience and loot credit, regardless of their contribution."

    Anyone else think that this should have been put in the game like a year+ ago. LOL Really...

    Now you have it, but instead of enjoying things being the way you wanted them, you prefer to go on complaining that it should have been done earlier. Never happy, huh ? Or just happy to complain.

    I think the limit made sense but in practice it seems to be difficult to form groups with people of matching levels and matching roles so system is changed for more flexibilty and that's good.


    I am very Happy about this change, but it just seems that it is sooooo Console related... not that that's a bad thing... it's just that it's about time it was changed to this.. I have been with this game from Early access ya know and seen all the grouping problems and such.. and finally Now My VR14 can hang out with VR1's and we all can get xp and loot together from whoever kills the enemy / monsters..

    Please don't blame the console. The game isn't even out. This is 100% PC related
    Console beta feedback may have helped, but more than likely a reversal via management changes.


    No one was doing VR stuff. Maybe a few VR1's but surely no VR10+ on console beta to drive any VR changes is my point.
    This is all PC related
    -PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
    ~<{[50]}>~ looks better than *501
  • whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO
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    I am not blaming Consoles, and I am grateful for this change it's just...it is just too close to the Console drop for it not to affect me.

    I mean, now that any VR can group together and Get loot and XP it's like in my mind ZOS saying,
    "Well since consoles are going active in like 8 days we should just check this off the list so we wont get complaints about it..""

    If this is PC related as per NewBlacksmurf then how come it didn't happen before...

    I don't know.... maybe this one is just one crazy Khajiit on a Skooma trip..

    Edited by whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO on June 1, 2015 6:35PM
    Signed, Kotaro Atani.PS5 NA
    VR16/ CP 160 Khajiit Nightblade of the Aldmeri Dominion, Guildmaster and Assassin of the Queen's Hand guild on NA PC. PvP Officer in the WOLF guild on NA PS5, and of course Master Thief. Currently 3365 CP out of 3600 CP on NA PS5. Currently 810 CP on NA PC (used for PTS testing purposes only). On PS5 I am also a Master Crafter, all traits done and learned, Jewelry crafting done. all Motifs learned on PS5 except for maybe two-three Motifs. Both Companions are Max level as are their Skills.Warrior, Lover, Thief.... Nightblade. Aldmeri Dominion For Life! For the Queen!! Go Dominion or go home ! "I have no hatred for the races of Man, but they are young. Like all children, they are driven by emotion. They lack the wisdom that comes with age. I would sooner place an Altmer infant on the Ruby Throne than surrender Tamriel to their capricious whims. The Altmer, the Bosmer and the Khajiit share the common traits of intelligence, patience and reason. We do not seek riches or plunder. Domination is not our goal, nor is the acclamation of power for its own sake. Today we make our stand. Today we take back the Ruby Throne, which is ours by ancient right and the blessings of the Divines. Stand with us." ―Your Queen Commands, Ayrenn Arana Aldmeri.(All 18 characters are AD only! This one is a AD Loyalist)Member of ESO Since January 29, 2014, started early Access 3/30/14 on PC, currently subbed on NA PS5 and on NA PC. Note- I only use PC for PTS testing purposes, the PS5 is my dedicated Game Platform.Note- for those that don't know how to say Kotaro Atani it's "Ko tar row Ah ta ni" (Ko with a Oh sound, tar which sounds like the sticky black tar stuff, row like rowing a boat, Ah with a AHHHH sound, Ta with a Tahhh sound, Neeee which sounds like knee)"The blowing sands of time wipe clean the footprints of the past...""Moonsugar may be the key to paradise, but it is through a false door...""A perfect society is always elsewhere..."- Unknown book of Khajiiti proverbs.
  • NewBlacksmurf
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    I am not blaming Consoles, and I am grateful for this change it's just...it is just too close to the Console drop for it not to affect me.

    I mean, now that any VR can group together and Get loot and XP it's like in my mind ZOS saying,
    "Well since consoles are going active in like 8 days we should just check this off the list so we wont get complaints about it..""

    If this is PC related as per NewBlacksmurf then how come it didn't happen before...

    I don't know.... maybe this one is just one crazy Khajiit on a Skooma trip..

    I think you're trying to loop things together that don't belong.

    The logical conclusion of this change is.....wait for it.......

    VR level being removed soon.
    -PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
    ~<{[50]}>~ looks better than *501
  • Nestor
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    Or, this could just simply be something to make the Grouping Tool work better....
    Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.

    PakKat "Everything was going well, until I died"
    Gary Gravestink "I am glad you died, I needed the help"

  • NewBlacksmurf
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    Nestor wrote: »
    Or, this could just simply be something to make the Grouping Tool work better....

    that also makes sense....but I can't ignore that it was said that after console release VR levels would be removed.
    no specific time or date tho
    -PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
    ~<{[50]}>~ looks better than *501
  • Nestor
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    that also makes sense....but I can't ignore that it was said that after console release VR levels would be removed.
    no specific time or date tho

    But, have you heard anything else about Vet Levels being removed other than some nebulous statement made a few months ago? I have not heard anything concrete about that, but I don't listen to all the Podcasts either.

    I have worked through in my head what would need to be done to remove VR Ranks and it's not just changing titles and mob strength. The entire Crafting system would need to be overhauled, the entire itemization system would need be overhauled, the quests would need to be over hauled (if they took this opportunity to open the zones too). But, more than likely the story progression will be the same even without the ranks. Although it can be said that the zone stories are stand alone with themselves, and the direction each story takes is contained within that zone. So, zones might be able to be opened up. But, that would mean that everyone would have their own scaling instance, and how hard would that be to get groups together for that? I know people want to get rid of or overhaul the VR Rankings, but the project is a bit daunting.

    I also don't see how the CP system can replace the VR Ranks completely, but maybe somebody has an idea on that. Maybe we get a rank for every 10 CPs or something, but how different is that from VR Ranks? (grind wise)

    Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.

    PakKat "Everything was going well, until I died"
    Gary Gravestink "I am glad you died, I needed the help"

  • Attorneyatlawl
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    glak wrote: »
    From the Patch today:"Grouped Veteran Rank player characters of any level will now receive both experience and loot credit, regardless of their contribution."

    Anyone else think that this should have been put in the game like a year+ ago. LOL Really...

    Now you have it, but instead of enjoying things being the way you wanted them, you prefer to go on complaining that it should have been done earlier. Never happy, huh ? Or just happy to complain.

    I think the limit made sense but in practice it seems to be difficult to form groups with people of matching levels and matching roles so system is changed for more flexibilty and that's good.


    I am very Happy about this change, but it just seems that it is sooooo Console related... not that that's a bad thing... it's just that it's about time it was changed to this.. I have been with this game from Early access ya know and seen all the grouping problems and such.. and finally Now My VR14 can hang out with VR1's and we all can get xp and loot together from whoever kills the enemy / monsters..

    Please don't blame the console. The game isn't even out. This is 100% PC related
    Console beta feedback may have helped, but more than likely a reversal via management changes.


    No one was doing VR stuff. Maybe a few VR1's but surely no VR10+ on console beta to drive any VR changes is my point.
    This is all PC related

    ESO isn't a different game you know regardless of what platform you play it on, right? The UI was worsened further for the console ports but that's about it. EDIT: Oh and the graphics but that's kind of part of the bargain when going to consoles in the first place... SNES graphics compared to a high-end PC (not literally SNES but on a relative basis ;)... 4k gsync 60hz at 59fps 100% of the time with zero input lag + much higher resolution textures and model details, pumped up shaders and lighting effects, etc. for the win :D).
    Edited by Attorneyatlawl on June 1, 2015 8:14PM
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  • Fruitmass
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    Cuyler wrote: »
    Cuyler wrote: »
    It was in the game a year ago, but was changed in patch 1.5/6?

    Then I don't remember seeing it..or seeing it's results, it's always been "you need to be within 5 levels of each other to get xp..."

    Nope... before patch 1.5 and the craglorn nerfs you could go do the upper crag grinds with 12-man groups at v1 and receive full xp for the groups kills no matter what level they were..
    I remember doing guild runs kinda like this where some of our Vet10+ members would do map clears with our early level Vets. Glad to see they're getting rid of the whole need to do X% of damage to get credit.

    Also,

    You will now be grouped with other Veteran Rank player characters within 5 Veteran Ranks when using the Grouping Tool.

    Saw this in patch notes and got really excited. Then I stopped myself and thought about how many times they fixed Faolchu...
    Has anybody gotten a chance to give it a go and actually gotten a group?
    Edited by Fruitmass on June 1, 2015 8:59PM
    Beware all ye who log on for here there be typos...
  • Rosveen
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    Instead of arguing why the fixed it and why now, we should simply be happy that they did. :) If console release brings fixes to long-standing issues, then I'll quickly become consoles' biggest fan despite not even playing on them.
  • AlnilamE
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    Fruitmass wrote: »
    Cuyler wrote: »
    Cuyler wrote: »
    It was in the game a year ago, but was changed in patch 1.5/6?

    Then I don't remember seeing it..or seeing it's results, it's always been "you need to be within 5 levels of each other to get xp..."

    Nope... before patch 1.5 and the craglorn nerfs you could go do the upper crag grinds with 12-man groups at v1 and receive full xp for the groups kills no matter what level they were..
    I remember doing guild runs kinda like this where some of our Vet10+ members would do map clears with our early level Vets. Glad to see they're getting rid of the whole need to do X% of damage to get credit.

    Also,

    You will now be grouped with other Veteran Rank player characters within 5 Veteran Ranks when using the Grouping Tool.

    Saw this in patch notes and got really excited. Then I stopped myself and thought about how many times they fixed Faolchu...
    Has anybody gotten a chance to give it a go and actually gotten a group?

    I've beaten Faolchu on 3 different characters and he's never been broken for me...
    The Moot Councillor
  • Fruitmass
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    AlnilamE wrote: »
    Fruitmass wrote: »
    Cuyler wrote: »
    Cuyler wrote: »
    It was in the game a year ago, but was changed in patch 1.5/6?

    Then I don't remember seeing it..or seeing it's results, it's always been "you need to be within 5 levels of each other to get xp..."

    Nope... before patch 1.5 and the craglorn nerfs you could go do the upper crag grinds with 12-man groups at v1 and receive full xp for the groups kills no matter what level they were..
    I remember doing guild runs kinda like this where some of our Vet10+ members would do map clears with our early level Vets. Glad to see they're getting rid of the whole need to do X% of damage to get credit.

    Also,

    You will now be grouped with other Veteran Rank player characters within 5 Veteran Ranks when using the Grouping Tool.

    Saw this in patch notes and got really excited. Then I stopped myself and thought about how many times they fixed Faolchu...
    Has anybody gotten a chance to give it a go and actually gotten a group?

    I've beaten Faolchu on 3 different characters and he's never been broken for me...

    Congratulations. Not everybody is so fortunate. Some people never experience a single glitch through the entire span of time they've played, some people get a new one every week. Doesn't change the fact they've patched it half a dozen times if not more.

    Beware all ye who log on for here there be typos...
  • Nestor
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    AlnilamE wrote: »
    I've beaten Faolchu on 3 different characters and he's never been broken for me...

    I have. I have stood down there while wails away up on the rampart. Most of the time it works, one character, 4 reloads to get him to come down. Last character, two times.


    Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.

    PakKat "Everything was going well, until I died"
    Gary Gravestink "I am glad you died, I needed the help"

  • Natjur
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    Before patch 1.6 all vet levels were classed as L50, so a V1 and a V14 where both classed as really L50 and therefore within 5 levels of each other and they got exp and full loot.

    After patch 1.6, they where classed as 13 levels different and stopped getting full exp and full loot (unless you did a min of 8% of the total damage to the mob)

    Now its back to the way it was before, so you no longer have to do a min of 8% total damage to get the exp and loot
  • drifter1138
    Natjur wrote: »
    Before patch 1.6 all vet levels were classed as L50, so a V1 and a V14 where both classed as really L50 and therefore within 5 levels of each other and they got exp and full loot.

    After patch 1.6, they where classed as 13 levels different and stopped getting full exp and full loot (unless you did a min of 8% of the total damage to the mob)

    Now its back to the way it was before, so you no longer have to do a min of 8% total damage to get the exp and loot

    Wait a moment... does that mean that V1 - V14 could still group with a level 45 and still get xp?
    Here's ultimately where I am going with this:

    Recently a bunch of of guildies and I were discussing a dungeon crawl somewhere.
    The group comprised of 2 - V1 chars, a level 45 and a level 40.
    Everyone was arguing over who would and would not get experience.
    I tried to explain that if the level 45 was group leader and started a dungeon, all people would be within 5 levels of the mobs that spawn in the dungeon and thus get xp and loot.
    Am I correct?
    Granted if I am right, the V1 players wouldn't get much xp.. but they would get credit for the dungeon completion and any associated skill points/achievements etc.

    Comments please?
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