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Xenofex
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Hello, I have a decent PC with GTX970 and I am experiencing low fps (15-25) in Cyrodil when there are lots of people EVEN on LOW video settigs. How is this possible? Is there anything I can do to fix it?
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  • Zargorius
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    Try without any addons and see if anything changes. What CPU do you have?
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  • hamgatan
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    Are you running that pile of crap product called Norton 360 by any chance....?
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  • Xenofex
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    Kaspersky internet security.
    Windows 8 latest update 64 bit.
    CPU AMD FX-8350
    RAM 8GB
    Gigabyte GTX 970
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  • BuggeX
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  • ragespell
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    I have the same cpu, and in games like eso (with almost one thread only) amd cpus performance is far from stellar.
    I am afraid there is nothing you can do, if not buy an intel.

    On the bright side, "the witcher 3" uses all my 8 cores evenly...it's a thing of beauty to observe :)
    Edited by ragespell on May 26, 2015 12:15PM
  • Zargorius
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    Xenofex wrote: »
    Kaspersky internet security.
    Windows 8 latest update 64 bit.
    CPU AMD FX-8350
    RAM 8GB
    Gigabyte GTX 970

    I think most probably your CPU is bottlenecking the GPU. From benchmarks your cpu performs worse than a i7-3770. Try monitoring your cpu performance in game, if you see it staying at 100% then the CPU is your issue.
    BuggeX wrote: »
    The issue described (which is not a memory leak, thanks for the link by the way, very interesting) will not present itself unless you downsample like there's no tomorrow. Also, even the article authoer admits he wasn't able to re-create it so no , it's not "you bught just the *** Buggy gtx970".

    Also try disabling Kaspersky while you play and see if it makes any difference.
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  • BuggeX
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    Zargorius wrote: »
    The issue described (which is not a memory leak, thanks for the link by the way, very interesting) will not present itself unless you downsample like there's no tomorrow. Also, even the article authoer admits he wasn't able to re-create it so no , it's not "you bught just the *** Buggy gtx970".

    Also try disabling Kaspersky while you play and see if it makes any difference.

    Ahh lol, just wrote 2 threads at the same time and mixed them :p.
    You right ist not a leak. Its a fault by design by lowering the Bandwidth for the last 0,5gb.

    just take a lock at your vram if it goes over 3,5gb. If this is the case try to update your Driver, if i can remember right nvidia released a Driver to avoid this Kind of bug.

    and btw, its not just on downsampling, it happen here much becaus you Need more vram.

    But the bug appears everytime if you hit 3,5gb. Friend of mine got this Card 2, after Long reserch and trying we get to a Point that all over 3,5 *** the Card. so i gave him my old 590gtx

    Edited by BuggeX on May 26, 2015 12:57PM
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  • Robotmafia
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    i have a similar question.. maybe you guys can help :)

    so the game has been running well at 50-80 fps since launch.. since 1.6 i have been experiencing random fps drops where it goes from 50 to 5 fps and a few second back up to 50... this has happened at different paces.. sometimes once every 5 min and sometime ever 20 secs (which is extremely annoying)... then after a patch (don't remember which one) it got a little better and after the last one a little worse again... has anyone else seen this?
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  • Zargorius
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    Robotmafia wrote: »
    i have a similar question.. maybe you guys can help :)

    so the game has been running well at 50-80 fps since launch.. since 1.6 i have been experiencing random fps drops where it goes from 50 to 5 fps and a few second back up to 50... this has happened at different paces.. sometimes once every 5 min and sometime ever 20 secs (which is extremely annoying)... then after a patch (don't remember which one) it got a little better and after the last one a little worse again... has anyone else seen this?

    Sounds like micro-stutters, they can be a pain in the back to eliminate as they can be caused by various stuff. For starters, try this:
    - always close the launcher after the game started
    - Unpark your cores: https://bitsum.com/parkcontrol/
    - check out these tweaks as well https://reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/26fl0d/performance_tweaks/
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  • hamgatan
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    Xenofex wrote: »
    Kaspersky internet security.

    Uninstall it and try again after a reboot. Reason I mentioned Norton 360 is because theres a known issue with the SONAR auto protect component directly linked to FPS rates. I'm not sure if Kaspersky has some kind of similar firewall/deep packet inspection but its worth a try uninstalling it to see
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    L50 Dunmer Stam Arcanist PvE DPS (US/EP) "Sends-The-Trout"
    L50 Altmer MagSorc PvE DPS (US/DC) "Acirrum" - The vMA/vvH Potatoaky Sorc
    L50 Breton StamCro PvE DPS (US/DC) "Ivanna Fakakakis"
    L50 PvE DPS Argonian StamPlar (US/EP) "The Rusty Argonian Spade"
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  • Etaniel
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    Zargorius wrote: »
    Xenofex wrote: »
    Kaspersky internet security.
    Windows 8 latest update 64 bit.
    CPU AMD FX-8350
    RAM 8GB
    Gigabyte GTX 970

    I think most probably your CPU is bottlenecking the GPU. From benchmarks your cpu performs worse than a i7-3770. Try monitoring your cpu performance in game, if you see it staying at 100% then the CPU is your issue.
    BuggeX wrote: »
    The issue described (which is not a memory leak, thanks for the link by the way, very interesting) will not present itself unless you downsample like there's no tomorrow. Also, even the article authoer admits he wasn't able to re-create it so no , it's not "you bught just the *** Buggy gtx970".

    Also try disabling Kaspersky while you play and see if it makes any difference.

    On my side of things , I get fps drops to 10-20 as well when there are a lot of people. When there are few people around i'm usually in the 80 fps.
    I run a gtx 970, and an i5 3570k as a CPU.

    Switching between a gtx 660 and a gtx 970 changes nothing, they both run the game on ultra with minimal frame change, so it's not coming from the gpu.

    So my guess would be the cpu is bottlenecking the rest, but when i monitor the performance, the CPU is sitting at around 60% usage. Any tips on how to improve performance?
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  • IcyDeadPeople
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    I find my fps drops quite a bit after playing in Cyrodiil for a while; however, if I change the display resolution and change it back, the frame rate is restored to normal.
  • Robotmafia
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    Zargorius wrote: »
    Robotmafia wrote: »
    i have a similar question.. maybe you guys can help :)

    so the game has been running well at 50-80 fps since launch.. since 1.6 i have been experiencing random fps drops where it goes from 50 to 5 fps and a few second back up to 50... this has happened at different paces.. sometimes once every 5 min and sometime ever 20 secs (which is extremely annoying)... then after a patch (don't remember which one) it got a little better and after the last one a little worse again... has anyone else seen this?

    Sounds like micro-stutters, they can be a pain in the back to eliminate as they can be caused by various stuff. For starters, try this:
    - always close the launcher after the game started
    - Unpark your cores: https://bitsum.com/parkcontrol/
    - check out these tweaks as well https://reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/26fl0d/performance_tweaks/

    thanks man! yeah iv been doing the launcher thing for a while now.. that did help a lot.. im actually launching the game with the eso.exe file instead of the launcher :) except for patch days ofc..

    I will try the other things! thanks agian
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  • Jaxsun
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    Xenofex wrote: »
    Hello, I have a decent PC with GTX970 and I am experiencing low fps (15-25) in Cyrodil when there are lots of people EVEN on LOW video settigs. How is this possible? Is there anything I can do to fix it?

    Any add-ons that provide a mini map will lower tour fps.
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