Does Zenimax Care About PvP?

ToRelax · May 2015

Not at all, they don't communicate with us, they don't fix broken mechanics, do they even play the game?

Ley wrote: »

This poll is way too biased for my liking.

To think that they don't care about their game is just silly, I accept that pvp matters are infinitely more complicated that pve matters, so we don't get to see as much progress in pvp as we'd like.

That is sure part of the problem, but PvP also attracts less people usually, but whatever the reasons are, ZOS seems to invest less manpower and money into PvP.
Sure, the PvP department will care a lot, but if it has no priority they can't do much.
And no priority is pretty much what this poll is about, of course they would care if it wouldn't cost them anything.

Armitas · May 2015

Sort of, issues get fixed relatively fast!

Go to drakelow, look at the "steps" on the west side that lead up to the outer wall. you will find your answer there.

Elsonso · May 2015

Armitas wrote: »

Go to drakelow, look at the "steps" on the west side that lead up to the outer wall. you will find your answer there.

Don't get it....

Armitas · May 2015

Sort of, issues get fixed relatively fast!

Did you go there? Oh it actually loaded today. There's usually no platform there.

Elsonso · May 2015

Armitas wrote: »

Did you go there? Oh it actually loaded today. There's usually no platform there.

See? They do care.

Lava_Croft · May 2015

Not at all, they don't communicate with us, they don't fix broken mechanics, do they even play the game?

Armitas wrote: »

Did you go there? Oh it actually loaded today. There's usually no platform there.

Top of Chalman Milegate is another one of those no-brainer fixes. The weirdly semi-invisible (apparently only visible to some, not to others) rock(s) just west of Aleswell is another great example.

PeggymoeXD · May 2015

Not at all, they don't communicate with us, they don't fix broken mechanics, do they even play the game?

Ley wrote: »

This poll is way too biased for my liking.

To think that they don't care about their game is just silly, I accept that pvp matters are infinitely more complicated that pve matters, so we don't get to see as much progress in pvp as we'd like.

If they had shown more effort within this past year, I'd agree with you. But look at the facts. Not a single improvement since launch. Only having mercs, FC's, and misc skill functions removed. Because it's just easier to take something out than to worry about fixing it.

Lava_Croft · May 2015

Not at all, they don't communicate with us, they don't fix broken mechanics, do they even play the game?

PeggymoeXD wrote: »

Ley wrote: »

This poll is way too biased for my liking.

To think that they don't care about their game is just silly, I accept that pvp matters are infinitely more complicated that pve matters, so we don't get to see as much progress in pvp as we'd like.

If they had shown more effort within this past year, I'd agree with you. But look at the facts. Not a single improvement since launch. Only having mercs, FC's, and misc skill functions removed. Because it's just easier to take something out than to worry about fixing it.

That is not entirely true though. They made quite a few smaller (read: easy to perform) changes to AvA over the course of the past year, but those little gems do not glimmer enough to be noticed in the sea of liquid feces.

Armitas · May 2015

Sort of, issues get fixed relatively fast!

lordrichter wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

Did you go there? Oh it actually loaded today. There's usually no platform there.

See? They do care.

until tomorrow, when it's gone again. But yeah they do care, just being funny.

Legedric · May 2015

Not at all, they don't communicate with us, they don't fix broken mechanics, do they even play the game?

Simple answer: No.

ForTheRealm · May 2015

Not at all, they don't communicate with us, they don't fix broken mechanics, do they even play the game?

I can understand they might be busy with consoles and thus PvP is not priority in fixing/implementation, but lack of communication in this area is really shameful.
If I see ZoS on that forum is just about moderating discussions and avoiding topics, e.g. they closed a discussion about lagsploit, explaining "We are closing this thread as we do not believe discussions about "lagsploiting" are constructive ". LOL (hysterically)

Ourorboros · May 2015

Not at all, they don't communicate with us, they don't fix broken mechanics, do they even play the game?

Really tempted to choose the last option, since I don't really PVP.

But the answer that is being overhelming chosen applies equally to PVE. I really don't give a rodent's behind if the console version is coming. That is not an excuse to ignore the people who paid for the game and for a subscription. If programmer salaries was the reason why no resources were spent trying to fix the game, they could have outsourced it to India or China

. If this game wasn't so damn addictive, the lack of respect shown to the players by ignoring issues would have forced me to leave already.

When it comes to this game, I feel like a mushroom, cuz we are kept in the dark and fed bull shiz.

Soulac · May 2015

Not at all, they don't communicate with us, they don't fix broken mechanics, do they even play the game?

no

Septimus_Magna · May 2015

Yes, while they do not communicate with us much, they still fix important issues in a timely manner!

Oh, I figured this was a troll thread, my bad..

Not a single pvp content update since launch and a huge class imbalance (at least until 1.6) should answer the OP's question right?

FENGRUSH · May 2015

Not at all, they don't communicate with us, they don't fix broken mechanics, do they even play the game?

@ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_PaulSage

You guys should vote too, everyones opinion matters!

Kypho · May 2015

Not at all, they don't communicate with us, they don't fix broken mechanics, do they even play the game?

Noone cares about pvp because pve pays better. and its just an MMORPG crap, what is not pvp focused, so they give a [snip]. Plus B2P, F2P, P2W wont care about pvp. They throw a bone sometimes, but money will come from the regular MMORPG zombies, who just love to grind 20h per day, and buy the strongest BS what the devs put into store(p2w).

All MMORPG are same: 95% raid/grind zombies, who doing the same crap every day, or more times a day, they want to reach everything fast, with multiple characters. They are like viruses. They do that gameplay in every game what has experience points.
Like when the MMORPG brainless grindzombies invaded GTA5. They infested it like a virus, and grinded all type of gameplay mindless, bought all crap within a pair week, reached lvl 100+. I dont think they knew why they do it, they must be geneticaly programed to be zombies when they see a game what has levels. Gene kicks in, brain off, they start to grind without enjoying the game.
The easier the game the better, ai should be weak scripted crap like in ESO, and every zombie is happy, they can do same thing all over again, even kill 10^999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 mob to gain +1 level.
Put some shiny items into store, the zombies will pay for it for sure.

You pvpers: You want to play against ppl, why? because its hard, unpredictable (well should be, but eso is crap......), but harder for sure! You go with zerg, or you solo something, what is not scripted, easy AI, you fight for something, but for a reward what is a joke....still you dont give up, you continue fighting. Most of you just dont give up the fight, asking devs for something, like balance, new content, fix, all you get: L2P, You cant balance MMORPG (lol), and from the zombie breeder ZoS, you get this: *silence*

Just give up, you wont get the pvp you want. You didnt get it till now, you will never get it. MMORPG=game of zombies

ps.: my first and last trial: a friend invited me, we joined TS, and have listened for half hour, what to do, when, what to use, when to use, where to move, etc.... I was like wtf, they know every move, know what the ai will do, when, how can this be so fun.....Its not fun if you arent a zombie. I bet those ppl can do it with closed eye, one hand. For me, it was boring and annoying. They learned every crap, and done it many many times.... LoL at PvE

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity]

Sotha_Sil · May 2015

Not at all, they don't communicate with us, they don't fix broken mechanics, do they even play the game?

This thread has not been moderated/closed yet

What is happening...

Kypho · May 2015

Not at all, they don't communicate with us, they don't fix broken mechanics, do they even play the game?

Ourorboros wrote: »

Really tempted to choose the last option, since I don't really PVP. But the answer that is being overhelming chosen applies equally to PVE. I really don't give a rodent's behind if the console version is coming. That is not an excuse to ignore the people who paid for the game and for a subscription. If programmer salaries was the reason why no resources were spent trying to fix the game, they could have outsourced it to India or China . If this game wasn't so damn addictive, the lack of respect shown to the players by ignoring issues would have forced me to leave already.

When it comes to this game, I feel like a mushroom, cuz we are kept in the dark and fed bull shiz.

You meant this one?:

Driade · May 2015

Teargrants wrote: »

I'll just leave this here...

Featuring three-sided Player vs. Player (PvP) gameplay, The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited supports hundreds of players on screen at once in an open world fight for control of Cyrodiil. Seize, hold, and control the resources of massive strongholds. Utilize massive siege weapons to crumble fortress walls and smash through fortified gates. Conquer the Imperial City, and your alliance's top player could even be crowned Emperor!

The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited features the largest PvP battles seen in a major online RPG. The game supports hundreds of onscreen players in epic battles. Swords and axes collide, spells and powers illuminate the ground and sky, and fires rage on embattled stronghold walls. Will you survive these epic battles? Can your overwhelming force take the keep, or will you be forced to retreat?

Well, the game is actually in the shape they advertise it because you can really see hundreds of players on your screen.
Nowhere they say you will be able to play the game at this scenario so its also following they advertise...
You also do see massive overwhelming force - all 24 player on one square metre.

So good job Zenimax.Good job...

Snit · May 2015

Not at all, they don't communicate with us, they don't fix broken mechanics, do they even play the game?

Who knows? They lack either direction, resources or something else, but I'm not sure we can tell which.

cozmon3c_ESO · May 2015

Not at all, they don't communicate with us, they don't fix broken mechanics, do they even play the game?

if it runs this *** on pc, i cant wait to hear the whines from the console players lol.

bosmern_ESO · May 2015

Not at all, they don't communicate with us, they don't fix broken mechanics, do they even play the game?

Haven't gotten a single PvP update, everything that is coming in the years to come is PvE.

Don't even say that Imperial City is going to be mainly PvP because its not, people datamined the Achievements for the Imperial city and there is not a single achievement for pvp its all "Kill this boss! Do this dungeon! Kill X amount of mobs in this dungeon!"

Imperial city is only going to be PvE with pvp elements.

Wrathmane · May 2015

Not really, their communication is slightly lacking, but they are doing a good job.

We will see what happens in the new few months after the console release. I'm hoping we will then see the changes that they've been talking about for the last little while.

Jules · May 2015

Not at all, they don't communicate with us, they don't fix broken mechanics, do they even play the game?

They don't care about PVP imbalances. That much is clear with the state of things as they are, and how long they are to go unchecked and unfixed. They don't care about PVP content. Sure, imperial city is coming out but they promised this like a year ago. There has not been a single PVP content release since the start of the game.

On the other hand, they don't care about PVE either.
Trials gear is garbage. Obtaining it means absolutely nothing. There is zero incentive to do anything in PVE. Sanctum Ophidia came out in September 2014. There's a good chance we won't see another update until September 2015 or later.

So all in all, grind grind grind to get to max level, so that you can do nonexistent end-game content.

Ezareth · May 2015

Not at all, they don't communicate with us, they don't fix broken mechanics, do they even play the game?

TheBucket wrote: »

I wish some people who make polls like this have worked even an hour in the gaming business or programmed one line of code .

Console release is like releasing a whole other game. If you are bored... Leave and come back

I've done both and for over a decade not an hour.

I'd never develop another product while totally ignoring my customers for an existing product...that just reeks of desperation to me.

If you don't care to listen to people complain about the game then why read/post? You can't just dismiss the issues that the majority of hardcore PvPers face in this game while making some lame excuse for the devs. There is no professional excuse that can be used to make the issues in this game acceptable, sorry.

Jaxsun · May 2015

Not at all, they don't communicate with us, they don't fix broken mechanics, do they even play the game?

PeggymoeXD wrote: »

TheBucket wrote: »

I wish some people who make polls like this have worked even an hour in the gaming business or programmed one line of code .

Console release is like releasing a whole other game. If you are bored... Leave and come back

I'm still wondering why it was so necessary to release this game on console. I guess if the company is going under and the money is needed.. But otherwise, playing this game with no addons would be next to impossible for me. Also controller.

I think this has a lot to do with it. They spent the last 13+ months not fixing bugs and creating more bugs with each patch that they lost a ton of players and no longer have the income to fix it properly.

cricripetitb16_ESO · May 2015

Not at all, they don't communicate with us, they don't fix broken mechanics, do they even play the game?

IF ZOS really cared and want to show us some proof. They really need to respond to this post.
or else it is pretty obvious what their intentions are..

King Bozo · May 2015

Not at all, they don't communicate with us, they don't fix broken mechanics, do they even play the game?

cricripetitb16_ESO wrote: »

IF ZOS really cared and want to show us some proof. They really need to respond to this post.
or else it is pretty obvious what their intentions are..

Really? So if they responded yes I care everyoNE would feel warm and fuzzy and go back to pvping?

PeggymoeXD · May 2015

Not at all, they don't communicate with us, they don't fix broken mechanics, do they even play the game?

It's not really even the fact that Cyrodiil is such a wasteland that pisses me off. It's that we get little to no feedback from the devs about what is going on. Just because they decide to release a console version shouldn't mean completely shutting out the people who have been loyal for a year and are burnt out on this crap.

Rylana · May 2015

Not at all, they don't communicate with us, they don't fix broken mechanics, do they even play the game?

I think the results of this poll speak for themselves, honestly.