Make weekly reward-accout wide

Exstazik

Title said all

Valymer

The trials one?

Can't you use it on any character?

Exstazik

Valymer wrote: »

The trials one?

Can't you use it on any character?

Trials+DSA
1 weekly=1 reward.Example:10 alts in top 100=1 reward for account only

BEZDNA

No, keep is at is, no need to change!

I like to have weekly on all my alts, especially the DSA one More gold from selling gold DSA jewelry for more skillful players, sounds fair enough!

Jeckll

I can see where you come from, because there are people doing the weekly with their alts to get multiple rewards.

While that might not seem fair to those who barely can make it into the top 100, these guys with multiple alts still have to accomplish the trial with each character. I personally have no issue with that (dont have an alt but never missed my single weekly reward so far).

You should elaborate more on why you think it's unfair/not justified.

BEZDNA

He don't like me making gold from it, Jeckll

SteveCampsOut

Just what are these weekly rewards that those of us who don't do trials or DSA should know about? Enquiring minds wanna know and all that....

BuggeX

Well his Point is that most "pro"Groups running vdsa or trails 8times with the same Setup to achive most times the same score. This 8 Play use then x8 space on the leaderboard and for not pro Groups is it hard to get under the top 100.

So Change it so that the leaderboard is based on acc not on the char, but with the reward for all alts

Jeckll

It's basicly only an issue with DSA weekly @SteveCampsOut because the golden VR14 Healer/Footman rings sell for 400-1000k each, making it very profitable to do the weekly several times.

But since Gold is worth nothing in ESO and there are several legit ways to farm as much gold as you'd like, I dont see a problem.

Aside from the Jewellry, you can get Master's Weapons you dont have yet.
The loot from the other trial weekly is medioce at best. Maybe you'd want a golden Two-Fanged Ring from AA, but generally speaking, the stuff from AA/HR/SO sucks for those who get the loot anyways because they are already able to accomplish the trials.

BuggeX

Jeckll wrote: »

It's basicly only an issue with DSA weekly @SteveCampsOut because the golden VR14 Healer/Footman rings sell for 400-1000k each, making it very profitable to do the weekly several times.

Wath the heck of mothers god? 400k-1000k??!! 400.000 - 1.000.000??!!!! fourthousend to one Million?
on wath Server do you Play?

BEZDNA

not that long time i ago i saw someone sold golden healer ring for 1 milion on EU Server. I personaly sold my golden footman ring for 630k in 3h after placing it on guild store

tengri

And who might you be to decide for me that I may not use my alt chars to get rewards as I please?

Jeckll

BuggeX wrote: »

Jeckll wrote: »

It's basicly only an issue with DSA weekly @SteveCampsOut because the golden VR14 Healer/Footman rings sell for 400-1000k each, making it very profitable to do the weekly several times.

Wath the heck of mothers god? 400k-1000k??!! 400.000 - 1.000.000??!!!! fourthousend to one Million?
on wath Server do you Play?

EU Server. Standard price.

I generally sell for 500-600k but usually Blobs buys it and resells for 1 million 1 week later or so when everybody has already sold their stuff ^^ You can surely find cheaper rings but the guys selling it dont know nothing about how much poeple are ready to spend for yellow rings.

BuggeX

wath the ***....and i sold it for 300k on eu..................................................... well well

Faugaun

I can easily imagine a yellow vr14 ring pulling 500k+ I sold a blue vr1 ring for 15k on NA and thats something you out level fairly quick. This is why we need jewel crafting sooner than later.

anitajoneb17_ESO

Faugaun wrote: »

This is why we need jewel crafting sooner than later.

I disagree. This issue is rather that we need more useful stuff to spend our money on. Justice system has added substantially more money into the game without any further gold sinks, + many people who've been playing for 6+ months have finished the nirncrux thing (researched all traits + crafted the nirnhoned items they needed).

We've all pretty much acquired the outfit we needed to adjust to 1.6 new skill balance (martial knowledge, cyrodiil light and adroitness, and equivalent for stamina) without any incentive to spare gold for new builds since no new content is in sight. Therefore we don't care to spend tons of gold on really rare and useful items, i.e. VR14 gold rings from FOTM sets (healer and footman being still part of it) and gold tempers to upgrade looted purple stuff.

Even potion ingredients and purple tempers are getting worthless (I guess people get bored and take more time to farm instead of running dungeons and trials for the zillionth time).

Not even considering that many people have quit the game until new content is out. And Witcher 3. And whatever.

Same economy size + more money into said economy => inflation (of which higher prices is a symptom). Even worse if said economy size is rather shrinking.

One thing ZOS should really do regardless of console release is throw some new lootable BoE sets into the game. Would give us something to chew and min/maxers never get tired of trying out everything.

Exstazik

well to prevent DSA gold jewelry selling the simple way=make weekly reward bound
if weekly reward ="top" players reward then reward should be stand with "top" players

anitajoneb17_ESO

I don't think the OP was complaining about weekly rewards being tradable for a lot of gold, but rather about some excellent players taking up several positions in the top ranking instead of just one, due to multiple characters, leaving less space for lower ranked.

I can fully understand that, it's like letting Usain Bolt run the same race twice and get gold + silver medals just for running with different shoes. But, on the other hand, players with multiple VR14 characters have taken the time and effort to level up those alts and learned to play with them (it's usually not the same class / role as their main) so I don't see why that effort should not be rewarded with each of them having its own ranking and reward.

anitajoneb17_ESO

BuggeX wrote: »

So Change it so that the leaderboard is based on acc not on the char, but with the reward for all alts

Technical problem here : what "all alts" ?

- All your characters, even the lvl1 ones ? => direct potential for abuse.
- All your VR14 charachters ? sound unfair, you can complete stuff efficiently with characters lower than VR14 => where do you draw the line ?
- All your characters that have completed the weekly, no matter with what score ? I see great potential for abuse here too
- All your characters that have completed the weekly within the 1st 100 scores ? well, back to square one...

anitajoneb17_ESO

Exstazik wrote: »

well to prevent DSA gold jewelry selling the simple way=make weekly reward bound
if weekly reward ="top" players reward then reward should be stand with "top" players

Maybe BUT... even less incentive to do stuff + even less interesting stuff to trade => more boredom + more people leaving the game because of "nothing left to do".

BuggeX

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

BuggeX wrote: »

So Change it so that the leaderboard is based on acc not on the char, but with the reward for all alts

Technical problem here : what "all alts" ?

- All your characters, even the lvl1 ones ? => direct potential for abuse.
- All your VR14 charachters ? sound unfair, you can complete stuff efficiently with characters lower than VR14 => where do you draw the line ?
- All your characters that have completed the weekly, no matter with what score ? I see great potential for abuse here too
- All your characters that have completed the weekly within the 1st 100 scores ? well, back to square one...

you missunderstood. my en is not the best

you still have to compleat the run with all alts atleast once and get under the top x.
but not every single alt get listed in the leaderboeard, just the acc itself with the highest score you achived.

so the leaderboeard have place for other grps witch dont have 8 pro alts

firstdecan

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Exstazik wrote: »

well to prevent DSA gold jewelry selling the simple way=make weekly reward bound
if weekly reward ="top" players reward then reward should be stand with "top" players

Maybe BUT... even less incentive to do stuff + even less interesting stuff to trade => more boredom + more people leaving the game because of "nothing left to do".

I don't think the 50 or fewer players who have dedicated their lives to running vDSA with multiple toons will have much affect on player numbers, regardless if they stay or go.

Exstazik

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Exstazik wrote: »

well to prevent DSA gold jewelry selling the simple way=make weekly reward bound
if weekly reward ="top" players reward then reward should be stand with "top" players

Maybe BUT... even less incentive to do stuff + even less interesting stuff to trade => more boredom + more people leaving the game because of "nothing left to do".

Weekly trial reward-bound...why DSA weekly can't be? you can still get reward but can't sell it.

anitajoneb17_ESO

firstdecan wrote: »

I don't think the 50 or fewer players who have dedicated their lives to running vDSA with multiple toons will have much affect on player numbers, regardless if they stay or go.

I think you're wrong, they're an "example" for quite many players still out there who find an incentive in "getting better" beacuse these people are still there.

And in any case, these rewards being for sale are also an incentive for other players to stay in the game, making money to buy the stuff.

At this stage of "nothing to do", all objectives count. You can't stay forever running around admiring the wnderful scenery, you need something to do. Even the stupidest grinding will do better than nothing at all.

anitajoneb17_ESO

BuggeX wrote: »

you still have to compleat the run with all alts atleast once and get under the top x.
but not every single alt get listed in the leaderboeard, just the acc itself with the highest score you achived.

I see what you mean but then how do you define "X" ? And how do you know you're within these "X" if all results are not listed ? Where do you draw the lines ?

Say A1 is char 1 of player A, A2 is char 2 of player A, B1 is char 1 of player B, etc.

A1 scores 10000, rank 33. Player A stands in the rankings place 33.
A2 scores 9500. Player A still stands in the rankings place 33 with 10000. A2 does not appear at all but is potentially eligible for reward.
B1 scores 11000, rank 20. Player B stands in the rankings, place 20.
B2 scores 9300. PLayer B cannot know whether it's eligible / enough for reward because he does not know what A2 did because it doesn't show up.
Healthy competition implies that you can see the results of others to know where you stand. It's impossible with that system.

And it would means that potentially 800 reward items would be distributed per week (and even far more considering that equal scoring per team are considered 1 position) ... would highly devaluate those rewards imho. To a certain extent, a reward must remain rare.

P3ZZL3

Unless I'm missing something obvious, wouldn't it just be a whole lot easier to make it the top 500 players?

This would open it up for lower level players
Potentially increase the volume of highly rare items
Potentially decrease the high cost of items in market

No reason why in theory, the system couldn't take those Top500 and use the RNG to issue the type of prizes across those 500.

idk

I think it is a poor idea to limit some players ability and reason to play. While there are those will alts that make multiple leaderboard runs each week, the entire 100 slots of the leaderboard are not filled by the same 10 groups on different alts.

The scoring is more what needs to change. Speed being the only factor for leaderboard is a poor design.

idk

Exstazik wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Exstazik wrote: »

well to prevent DSA gold jewelry selling the simple way=make weekly reward bound
if weekly reward ="top" players reward then reward should be stand with "top" players

Maybe BUT... even less incentive to do stuff + even less interesting stuff to trade => more boredom + more people leaving the game because of "nothing left to do".

Weekly trial reward-bound...why DSA weekly can't be? you can still get reward but can't sell it.

The gear that normally drops BoP is BoP for weekly rewards. The gear that drops BoE is BoE in weekly rewards.

Shadesofkin

tengri wrote: »

And who might you be to decide for me that I may not use my alt chars to get rewards as I please?

This^^^ right here.

timidobserver

Exstazik wrote: »

well to prevent DSA gold jewelry selling the simple way=make weekly reward bound
if weekly reward ="top" players reward then reward should be stand with "top" players

Why does this need to be or prevented?

anitajoneb17_ESO

Well, OP did not decide, he suggested / asked. Only ZOS can decide anyway.