Am I the only one who gets pushed into levels two or three levels (or more) higher than my char?

Volkodav

I keep running into this.I am now past Fort Virak,and was pushed into going to the Rift.ALL the quests are waaaay over my new chars level,which is 12.They are around 25 and up there.I want to do what I am supposed to do to go on,but this is really rough.One of my alts is a level 13,and is getting level 16 and above quests.It's just a bit too high.It would be nice to have the quests at my level or one up most of the time. Just not an entire 20 levels higher as it tends to be in the Rift.

Zargorius

Looks like you are skipping zones. This is the "correct" progression:

Stonefalls: Level 1 – 16
Deshaan: Level 16-23
Shadowfen: Level 23-34
The Rift: Level 34-47
Cold harbor: Level 47 – 50

Turelus

If you're doing the Mage's Guild or Fighter's Guild quest lines these will take you to the capital cities in each zone for the next part.
If you're just following the main/side quests you see in every zone you should actually end up out leveling the content you're doing. It sounds like you may have missed some content or quests when in previous zones if you're too low level, try going back to previous zones and doing some exploration to see if you can earn a bit of XP.

Cuyler

EP zones are laid out in the most illogical way one can imagine......

First you travel west through Stonefalls, which by design finishes to the north at fort Virak. Buuuut instead of heading north from there, some dev decided to completely mind **** us and send us south to Deshaan instead.

After that things get normal for awhile as you keep traveling south to Shadowfen.......BUUUT you guessed it......mind ****** again!......Now you must head all the way back North to get to East march

Don't keep going North though because as soon as your done with that zone you need to head back south again to finish in The Rift. I don't even......wtf?!

I feel horrible for new player who choose EP, so lost...so lost. If your confused which I don't blame you, pick up the "destinations" addon it will always point you in the right direction when the devs would point you to oblivion.

Rosveen

@Cuyler EP zones would make perfect sense if we sailed from Bleakrock to Windhelm like we're supposed to and worked our way down from there. Look at the map, it makes no sense for Nord refugees to sail all the way south to Stonefalls instead of to nearby Eastmarch.

Cuyler

Rosveen wrote: »

@Cuyler EP zones would make perfect sense if we sailed from Bleakrock to Windhelm like we're supposed to and worked our way down from there. Look at the map, it makes no sense for Nord refugees to sail all the way south to Stonefalls instead of to nearby Eastmarch.

That, mate....would be too logical

Lord_Draevan

Cuyler wrote: »

First you travel west through Stonefalls, which by design finishes to the north at fort Virak.

The Stonefalls main quests send you south to Kragenmoor and then Tormented Spire after Virak, which are right next to the Deshaan border. They don't end at Fort Virak.
You don't get a quest marker, true, but Holgunn tells you Tanval is heading south towards the Spire. If you head that way, then you get the Kragenmoor quest.
But it is odd you don't get a quest/quest marker to go to Kragenmoor like you do in all the other zones.

Cuyler

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

Cuyler wrote: »

First you travel west through Stonefalls, which by design finishes to the north at fort Virak.

The Stonefalls main quests send you south to Kragenmoor and then Tormented Spire after Virak, which are right next to the Deshaan border. They don't end at Fort Virak.
You don't get a quest marker, true, but Holgunn tells you Tanval is heading south towards the Spire. If you head that way, then you get the Kragenmoor quest.
But it is odd you don't get a quest/quest marker to go to Kragenmoor like you do in all the other zones.

Yes I realized that after posting, but I think you see my point.

The shape of stonefalls is cut off where you literally walk by Kragenmoor and the Spire on your way north, just to go back to them after Virak, the flow of quests there is not natural and the zones seem out of order.

And the Kragenmoor quest marker my god, three times through it and still have trouble finding it. I always forget it gated behind Fort Virak I guess.

UrQuan

If you're actually following the Pact storyline quests, I don't really understand how you can end up doing any of the zones in the wrong order. Well, unless one of the quest markers isn't showing up for you. And frankly, since you're going to places based on where the story sends you, I think it's more realistic that you're not just traveling through the zones in essentially a straight line. Going in one direction to follow one part of the questline, then in an entirely different direction to follow the next part is more realistic.

Having said that, it has never really made sense that the folks evacuated from Bleakrock fled from the Covenant forces all the way down to Bal Foyen instead of to Eastmarch. And it made even less sense that the Covenant forces followed them there. I still really like that whole part of the storyline, it just doesn't make sense based on where those zones are located.

Cuyler

UrQuan wrote: »

If you're actually following the Pact storyline quests, I don't really understand how you can end up doing any of the zones in the wrong order. Well, unless one of the quest markers isn't showing up for you. And frankly, since you're going to places based on where the story sends you, I think it's more realistic that you're not just traveling through the zones in essentially a straight line. Going in one direction to follow one part of the questline, then in an entirely different direction to follow the next part is more realistic.

Having said that, it has never really made sense that the folks evacuated from Bleakrock fled from the Covenant forces all the way down to Bal Foyen instead of to Eastmarch. And it made even less sense that the Covenant forces followed them there. I still really like that whole part of the storyline, it just doesn't make sense based on where those zones are located.

Well yea, but were not talking about a straight line, its a zone obv. Every zone has somewhat linear progression where as you move across it in a particular direction the level of npcs gradually increases, except for Stonefalls, where it increases going north/northwest and then going south/southwest.

The issue is not for us that have done it multiple times, or those who religiously follow the quest dialogue, but for newbies, who by nature will get frustrated and quit if hitting a roadblock that early on in the game that stops progression. If one, by some chance doesn't listen to every single word of every single quest line (I know its hard to imagine) then it can be relatively easy to get stuck in the southwest corner of stonefalls not knowing what or where to go. just saying.

Lord_Draevan

Here's how I always follow the Stonefalls main quest, following the quest markers and dialogue.
(Sorry for MS paint quality )



Obviously I do every single quest in the zone, this is just a map of the main Stonefalls quest.

Volkodav

Thanks guys. All this info helps me a lot.I'll head back towards the Spire,if I can find it.Lol. The directional explanations help too.At l east I know now that thje levels of bad guys goes higher in certain directions. Im not a newbie.Been in it since the betas,but I never paid attention to why the levels change so much up.I keep trying to follow one line of quests,thinking I'm going to do them all.Like the Fighters Guild.But,man,sometimes the thread gets lost.

Athas24

UrQuan wrote: »

If you're actually following the Pact storyline quests, I don't really understand how you can end up doing any of the zones in the wrong order. Well, unless one of the quest markers isn't showing up for you. And frankly, since you're going to places based on where the story sends you, I think it's more realistic that you're not just traveling through the zones in essentially a straight line. Going in one direction to follow one part of the questline, then in an entirely different direction to follow the next part is more realistic.

Having said that, it has never really made sense that the folks evacuated from Bleakrock fled from the Covenant forces all the way down to Bal Foyen instead of to Eastmarch. And it made even less sense that the Covenant forces followed them there. I still really like that whole part of the storyline, it just doesn't make sense based on where those zones are located.

This happens because NOBODY listens to the quest giver in any game... ever. unfortunately. *defeated look*

Volkodav

Athas24 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

If you're actually following the Pact storyline quests, I don't really understand how you can end up doing any of the zones in the wrong order. Well, unless one of the quest markers isn't showing up for you. And frankly, since you're going to places based on where the story sends you, I think it's more realistic that you're not just traveling through the zones in essentially a straight line. Going in one direction to follow one part of the questline, then in an entirely different direction to follow the next part is more realistic.

Having said that, it has never really made sense that the folks evacuated from Bleakrock fled from the Covenant forces all the way down to Bal Foyen instead of to Eastmarch. And it made even less sense that the Covenant forces followed them there. I still really like that whole part of the storyline, it just doesn't make sense based on where those zones are located.

This happens because NOBODY listens to the quest giver in any game... ever. unfortunately. *defeated look*

Thats kinda rude. I listen.Just sometimes things get lost in translation,ya know. >:{

zachary4828

The zones are not set up for linear progression. You'll find yourself in over your head if you fan across the map WoW style and expect to move into the next zone after exhausting your current zone. Instead use your quest log to decide which quest to take on next. The quest log is color coded by difficulty and takes you to the map location of the quest when clicking on it.

If you are not consistently referring to your quest log for direction then you will be following the latest quest you received which will quickly get you in over your head.

cmetzger93

I always had the exact same problem but I got this addon and started doing all the quests I missed and you don't run into being under leveled too often. http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info1022-QuestMap.html

leshpar

I always listen to the quest givers. The lore in Elder Scrolls is one of the big reasons I love this MMO.

Volkodav

zachary4828 wrote: »

The zones are not set up for linear progression. You'll find yourself in over your head if you fan across the map WoW style and expect to move into the next zone after exhausting your current zone. Instead use your quest log to decide which quest to take on next. The quest log is color coded by difficulty and takes you to the map location of the quest when clicking on it.

If you are not consistently referring to your quest log for direction then you will be following the latest quest you received which will quickly get you in over your head.

I do follow the color codes.Its just that if I follow the thread of quests,like when one is finished it triggers another one,it keeps going a level or two higher each time.I dont go running off like WoW.I just finish doing a line of quests in the Rift,from my now level 30,and each chapter of the quest set the difficulty went higher and higher by two until it was up to me having to kill level 38 enemies.I was ok till the 38 boss,and that stopped me in my tracks.He's a solo,so I'll have to go and do some grinding until I can get up to his level and continue on the thread of quests.I'm no newbie.I know ESO since the betas,and I've played all the games since Arena.I was just wondering about it,thats all.Not complaining,ok. :}

Alina_Scarbridge

Whiskey,
I want to note also that your issue with getting into quests and mobs above your level may be making the problem worse. as soon as they're more than 5 levels above or below you, you're not getting exp and thus making you stay underleveled even longer. Try to find more questing to do at your level. Side quests in the same area as the main ones you're following, before you move on to the next city. then you'll find you don't end up out of that 5 level range of exp points.

Volkodav

Alina_Scarbridge wrote: »

Whiskey,
I want to note also that your issue with getting into quests and mobs above your level may be making the problem worse. as soon as they're more than 5 levels above or below you, you're not getting exp and thus making you stay underleveled even longer. Try to find more questing to do at your level. Side quests in the same area as the main ones you're following, before you move on to the next city. then you'll find you don't end up out of that 5 level range of exp points.

Thanks for the info.Yeah,I know. Like I mentioned,I'll be doing some grinding,and now hunt for some quests also. :}