How Much Would You Spend On Player Housing?

MercyKilling

lordrichter wrote: »

Zero.

The housing should be base game so that everyone has it. Then they can sell stuff in the store to decorate and customize.

This. If it comes to the game in any other way, it won't get a penny from me. Also, I don't want to have to do a quest to get my house. I don't want to have to PvP to get my house. I don't want to have to be in a guild to get my house.

All I should need is the gold and materials.People are clamoring for more gold sinks in the game...housing is a perfect gold sink.

AhPook_Is_Here

It's not that I don't want to see it in game. I am just more interested in seeing them develop multi-player content for PVE and PVP. I don't care what my imaginary character does when I log off or if he is tucked in a very fancy bed, the best one crowns can buy. I don't care if he has crown store dreams and leader-board sheets. I don't care about trophies either or some sort of elaborate storage system.

I play MMOs to interact with other players. I see this in single player games as a kind of filler anyway. Characters don't get tired, or hungry or thirsty, they don't feel anything. The player feels and sleeps and so on, and so we need these real life comforts for ourselves but frankly I just don't feel a character that has had their heart ripped out came back to life a thousand times, killed thousands of other people some of them just innocents for the sake of achievements really has time to work on a potpourri basket. There are a lot more people out there to kill still and I have always figured my character is like Killua's brother Kurapika in hunter x hunter, when I'm not doing any killing i just burry myself till it's time to kill stuff again.

MrGhosty

Under 30 dollars For The Dlc

If the housing DLC worked similar to hearthfire and also as I detailed here I would be willing to pay up to $30.

Gandrhulf_Harbard

lordrichter wrote: »

Zero.

The housing should be base game so that everyone has it. Then they can sell stuff in the store to decorate and customize.

This.

All The Best

kevlarto_ESO

So unless it comes in a huge full blown paid expansion with a ton of other features and content, the standard expansion price.

But
I am paying for it already as a ESO+ player if it comes in DLC only then $0.00

Heromofo

Above 50 dollars Plus as much money as i can throw at the game!!!!

Gandrhulf_Harbard wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Zero.

The housing should be base game so that everyone has it. Then they can sell stuff in the store to decorate and customize.

This.

All The Best

But Gand its ESO where they broke their promises went to crown store and locked content behind a pay wall.
I dont think anyone can expect anything free from zos including imperial city. I would say they will charge a base for housing dlc and then quick cut options in the crown store for all things in thr housing dlc.

ZOS is now a business in the same market as swtor and we did not expect swtor to go this path but eso is walking the same rope srsly exactly the same path bit by bit.

Jaxsun

Nothing, it should have been included with the game at the start of console beta a year ago.

Heromofo

Above 50 dollars Plus as much money as i can throw at the game!!!!

Jaxsun wrote: »

Nothing, it should have been included with the game at the start of console beta a year ago.

Won't happen now that it has swapped its method of income read my post above i know it sucks.

Gandrhulf_Harbard

Heromofo wrote: »

But Gand its ESO where they broke their promises went to crown store and locked content behind a pay wall.
I dont think anyone can expect anything free from zos including imperial city. I would say they will charge a base for housing dlc and then quick cut options in the crown store for all things in thr housing dlc.

ZOS is now a business in the same market as swtor and we did not expect swtor to go this path but eso is walking the same rope srsly exactly the same path bit by bit.

I know its a business.

But @lordrichter was correct.

If they make the base housing content free then EVERY single player has a reason to spend in the Store for upgrades, cosmetics, etc.

If they make it paid for content then ONLY those people who a) can afford that content AND b) are willing to pay for it will ever have it, and that creates a much smaller customer base for upgrades, cosmetics etc, meaning they will have to be priced higher, meaning less people will buy them.

The only "gate" to having a basic house should be having enough in-game currency to buy one.
Then if you want to add extra rooms you go to the store.
If you have a Nord house but want a Dunmer style room you go to the store.

Have some of the decorative pieces drop in the game world, maybe as Boss loot (have a look how LotRO does this) for example, so that people are incentivised to play with and care about their houses for free; and then you have a much bigger market, conditioned to want to spend on their houses.

Most games with an in-game store make one MASSIVE mistake - over-pricing.

Stack it high, sell it cheap: give people TONS of options so they can, if they want, change their entire house look and feel every week - they'll spend a fortune getting it "just right" for how they want it to be.

Don't know if you've seen Wildstar's housing, in many ways its very good. Every object can be placed in a fully 3d space, and then scaled to whatever size you want. You want to turn that huge tree in your yard to a Bonsai in a pot in the house - no problem.

Give people too may choices, at a price they can't afford to say no to - and they'll spend, spend, spend to get it just right.

Given them too few choices, or price them too highly and they'll "make do" with what they have because they know they'll never be able to, or afford to, get it "just right".


All The Best

Jaxsun

Heromofo wrote: »

Jaxsun wrote: »

Nothing, it should have been included with the game at the start of console beta a year ago.

Won't happen now that it has swapped its method of income read my post above i know it sucks.

Yeah, u r right

Heromofo

Above 50 dollars Plus as much money as i can throw at the game!!!!

Gandrhulf_Harbard wrote: »

Heromofo wrote: »

But Gand its ESO where they broke their promises went to crown store and locked content behind a pay wall.
I dont think anyone can expect anything free from zos including imperial city. I would say they will charge a base for housing dlc and then quick cut options in the crown store for all things in thr housing dlc.

ZOS is now a business in the same market as swtor and we did not expect swtor to go this path but eso is walking the same rope srsly exactly the same path bit by bit.

I know its a business.

But @lordrichter was correct.

If they make the base housing content free then EVERY single player has a reason to spend in the Store for upgrades, cosmetics, etc.

If they make it paid for content then ONLY those people who a) can afford that content AND b) are willing to pay for it will ever have it, and that creates a much smaller customer base for upgrades, cosmetics etc, meaning they will have to be priced higher, meaning less people will buy them.

The only "gate" to having a basic house should be having enough in-game currency to buy one.
Then if you want to add extra rooms you go to the store.
If you have a Nord house but want a Dunmer style room you go to the store.

Have some of the decorative pieces drop in the game world, maybe as Boss loot (have a look how LotRO does this) for example, so that people are incentivised to play with and care about their houses for free; and then you have a much bigger market, conditioned to want to spend on their houses.

Most games with an in-game store make one MASSIVE mistake - over-pricing.

Stack it high, sell it cheap: give people TONS of options so they can, if they want, change their entire house look and feel every week - they'll spend a fortune getting it "just right" for how they want it to be.

Don't know if you've seen Wildstar's housing, in many ways its very good. Every object can be placed in a fully 3d space, and then scaled to whatever size you want. You want to turn that huge tree in your yard to a Bonsai in a pot in the house - no problem.

Give people too may choices, at a price they can't afford to say no to - and they'll spend, spend, spend to get it just right.

Given them too few choices, or price them too highly and they'll "make do" with what they have because they know they'll never be able to, or afford to, get it "just right".


All The Best

Your right thanks @Gandrhulf_Harbard you are always the voice of reason i guess i have lost faith in zos after the motif pricing.

golfer.dub17_ESO

I thought this thread was gonna ask how much gold.

Missing a "Housing shouldn't be DLC" option.

Heromofo

Above 50 dollars Plus as much money as i can throw at the game!!!!

golfer.dub17_ESO wrote: »

I thought this thread was gonna ask how much gold.

Missing a "Housing shouldn't be DLC" option.

Feel free to make another poll to follow that line of thought as more the merrier.

Egonieser

Nothing.
Housing has been a part of base game in many MMOs for quite a while. While it is a nice thing to have, i would not pay a penny (real life penny that is) for it. Other MMOs sell some unique furniture/decor in cash shops, but not the system itself, that would just be pitiful.

Skyrim sold it as a DLC because it was a single player game with vast options, customisability and additional modding, this will not be possible in a MMO due to technical limitations, therefore it would not be worthy of a "DLC" status. If we get something, it will most likely be something basic like LoTRO had - fun the first time, but by the end of your chars levelling process, you've forgotten about it already and maybe visit it once in a blue moon.

Heromofo

Above 50 dollars Plus as much money as i can throw at the game!!!!

Egonieser wrote: »

Nothing.
Housing has been a part of base game in many MMOs for quite a while. While it is a nice thing to have, i would not pay a penny (real life penny that is) for it. Other MMOs sell some unique furniture/decor in cash shops, but not the system itself, that would just be pitiful.

Skyrim sold it as a DLC because it was a single player game with vast options, customisability and additional modding, this will not be possible in a MMO due to technical limitations, therefore it would not be worthy of a "DLC" status. If we get something, it will most likely be something basic like LoTRO had - fun the first time, but by the end of your chars levelling process, you've forgotten about it already and maybe visit it once in a blue moon.

Read Gands post abovd really insightful.

smacx250

Above 50 dollars Plus more for crown housing items

Do I *want* to pay this much? No. But if I had the option of hearthfire-style housing, and it cost this much, I'd be inclined to pay it (though if it was DLC I also think ESO+ should rent it for you for no extra charge).

dafox187

Heromofo wrote: »

Just for a kick how much would you pay?

its not going to be a dlc they said so i would pay nothing but if i couldget dlc for more stuff i would pay over 9000 bucks

Heromofo

Above 50 dollars Plus as much money as i can throw at the game!!!!

dafox187 wrote: »

Heromofo wrote: »

Just for a kick how much would you pay?

its not going to be a dlc they said so i would pay nothing but if i couldget dlc for more stuff i would pay over 9000 bucks

Dafox although i trust ya mind linking your information because as far as i know they have not even said it would be making an appearance yet.

IrishGirlGamer

Under 40 dollars For The Dlc

lordrichter wrote: »

Zero.

The housing should be base game so that everyone has it. Then they can sell stuff in the store to decorate and customize.

While I appreciate the sentiment, I would be stunned if that were the case. And stunned isn't even a big enough word.

They simply will not do that. They will either (1) make it DLC you must buy or (2) make it dependent in some manner on a monthly fee.

I mean, really, Zeni will soon be selling riding lessons in the store. If it has any kind of value at all and it can be packaged in any manner, believe you me, it has a real dollar price tag on it.

EDIT: Oh, while I picked the answer I did, it was only because the poll doesn't have a monthly rent option. I do not believe that Zeni would release player housing for anything BUT a monthly dollar fee of some kind.

Endurance

Screw Player Housing Dont want to see it in the game

I dont need to spend a penny on this game, I already own 3 large cities and 50 diff houses in Skyrim

EQBallzz

Heromofo wrote: »

bedlom wrote: »

A lot

Yup talking to someone who spent 3300 dollars and i am pretty sure it was more than that over the past year on swtor lol.

I think if I spent 3300 on a video game (hint: I wouldn't) I wouldn't be bragging about it and instead keep it on the DL. Seems rather idiotic IMO but to each his own.

I think if a video game can't deliver what it needs to in the box price and possibly the cost of a sub it's no longer a video game. It's a pyramid scheme. Buyer beware.

Arreyanne

A big FAT NONE

Heromofo

Above 50 dollars Plus as much money as i can throw at the game!!!!

EQBallzz wrote: »

Heromofo wrote: »

bedlom wrote: »

A lot

Yup talking to someone who spent 3300 dollars and i am pretty sure it was more than that over the past year on swtor lol.

I think if I spent 3300 on a video game (hint: I wouldn't) I wouldn't be bragging about it and instead keep it on the DL. Seems rather idiotic IMO but to each his own.

I think if a video game can't deliver what it needs to in the box price and possibly the cost of a sub it's no longer a video game. It's a pyramid scheme. Buyer beware.

Yeah
It depends on what you have for disposal income everything i own is paid off and i always keep a good savings around.
Most of the money i spend on video games come from my alcohol money considering i dont drink anymore so 3300+ spent on a game over a year or so is really small.

Hope that clears it up for ya

ItsGlaive

That's a very broad question. Depends on the systems included, how intricate, how big essentially the patch or dlc would be.

Cernow

Under 20 dollars For The Dlc

I'd only drop money on the DLC for housing if it offered some extra storage space and if at least some of the decorations could be obtained via in-game methods and not just Crowns.

MornaBaine

Under 20 dollars For The Dlc

I voted what I felt was a reasonable amount but when I look at what I spent over the course of The Sims 3... they do this right I -know- I'll be spending a freaking fortune on this silliness.

olemanwinter

Screw Player Housing Dont want to see it in the game

zero. I will give this company no more money.

LIQUID741

Under 30 dollars For The Dlc

I'd pay...but hopefully I can pick the lock and raid their dome!

EQBallzz

Heromofo wrote: »

EQBallzz wrote: »

Heromofo wrote: »

bedlom wrote: »

A lot

Yup talking to someone who spent 3300 dollars and i am pretty sure it was more than that over the past year on swtor lol.

I think if I spent 3300 on a video game (hint: I wouldn't) I wouldn't be bragging about it and instead keep it on the DL. Seems rather idiotic IMO but to each his own.

I think if a video game can't deliver what it needs to in the box price and possibly the cost of a sub it's no longer a video game. It's a pyramid scheme. Buyer beware.

Yeah
It depends on what you have for disposal income everything i own is paid off and i always keep a good savings around.
Most of the money i spend on video games come from my alcohol money considering i dont drink anymore so 3300+ spent on a game over a year or so is really small.

Hope that clears it up for ya

No it doesn't clear anything up. I have more than enough disposable income to spend on what I want but that doesn't mean I would dump thousands of dollars into a video game. I can get behind the cost of a sub because it's a small and reasonable amount of money that's ostensibly paying for an ongoing service of bug fixes and added content. If a video game came out that had a box price of 3k but included all that stuff you bought would you buy it? I doubt it. So why is it reasonable to spend that much after you pay 50 bucks?

A video game should stand on it's own merits. The value of the game should come from the game and possibly your time investment but not how much money you dump into it. IMO this type of video game activity is borderline compulsive, unhealthy behavior..much like gambling or drinking and it's shameful that game companies purposely exploit this. To be fair, anyone who spends all day ever day playing a video game (gaining value from time investment as opposed to buying it) would also fall into the compulsive, unhealthy behavior as well.

olemanwinter

Screw Player Housing Dont want to see it in the game

I agree with you EQballz. I think everyone should do whatever makes them happy. Spend 300k $ per year if it makes you happy.....but I can't wrap my mind around it.

It's pixels. pixels you don't even own. Paying vasts sums of moeny to effectively have the right to temporarily stare at a collection of pixels.

Not everything has to be tangible. Travel has a value. You can go see a lot and do a lot of traveling with family for $3,000. The memories, the pictures, etc.

Like I said, whatever makes you happy. But it's bananas to me.