Everytime I see a "Class X is overpowered - nerf it!" thread..

Moonshadow66
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.. I go and try these overpowered skills.

I looove my new builds, so.. a big thanks to the complainers ;)
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  • BuggeX
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    post build pls, want to be "OP" to
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  • Egonieser
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    BuggeX wrote: »
    post build pls, want to be "OP" to

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  • Psychobunni
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    What would be awesome is if ZOS got a player team together (obviously volunteer), made up of a couple PVP players from each class that we knowledgeable about their class and PVP and could gently provide the help the "I died, nerf it" player is in need of.

    I mean, thats what it boils down too 99% of the time, so take a negative and make it positive....idk, don't/won't pvp
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  • Moonshadow66
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    What would be awesome is if ZOS got a player team together (obviously volunteer), made up of a couple PVP players from each class that we knowledgeable about their class and PVP and could gently provide the help the "I died, nerf it" player is in need of.

    I mean, thats what it boils down too 99% of the time, so take a negative and make it positive....idk, don't/won't pvp

    This sounds like a great idea actually :) I couldn't be one of them (yet) since I just started using the "good skills" (and I'm here since beta..), but I'm sure there're many players which skills are top already and could provide such help.
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    Lady Olivieri - Breton Nightblade VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero | Donna Demnevanni - Breton Templar VR16, DC, Tamriel Hero
    Elaine Benes - Breton Templar VR16, EP | Ray McCluck - Breton Sorcerer VR16, EP
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  • Mayrael
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    As i mentioned in other thread, balance threads (not only nerf it but also buff it) should be aviable only for those who reached certain Alliance War rank (e.g. 30) on at least two clasess.
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  • Hlaadriel
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    Well I saw some 34k DPS DK the other day while I was tanking with my NB. never finished CoA so quickly without death...
  • Moonshadow66
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    Mayrael wrote: »
    As i mentioned in other thread, balance threads (not only nerf it but also buff it) should be aviable only for those who reached certain Alliance War rank (e.g. 30) on at least two clasess.

    Edit: sorry, I misread it, everything is fine ;)
    Edited by Moonshadow66 on May 14, 2015 1:20PM
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    Lady Olivieri - Breton Nightblade VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero | Donna Demnevanni - Breton Templar VR16, DC, Tamriel Hero
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  • MissBizz
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    .. I go and try these overpowered skills.

    I looove my new builds, so.. a big thanks to the complainers ;)

    I was really hoping to see a meme when I clicked on the thread title... but hey, that comment is almost just as good ;)

    ..Unfortunately I don't see many "please nerf Templar XXX" except for jesus beam.. no new build for me.
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  • olemanwinter
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    Mayrael wrote: »
    As i mentioned in other thread, balance threads (not only nerf it but also buff it) should be aviable only for those who reached certain Alliance War rank (e.g. 30) on at least two clasess.

    ^. X1000

    or have to have some experience in the class you are discussing/trying to nerf.


    I was talking to a guy the other day...a VR14 who was always "getting seen while crouching" and thought it was a "nightblade thing"

    He thought the NB were so OP because of the "stealthing/UNSTEALTHING" thing they could do.

    VR14 complaining about OP NB thinks every time someone uses a detect pot it's a NB using some special skill.


    As a NB, who's entire class revolves around something every class can do...and every class can break with a potion...I wanted to laugh and cry at the same time.
    Edited by olemanwinter on May 14, 2015 1:14PM
  • Moonshadow66
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    MissBizz wrote: »
    .. I go and try these overpowered skills.

    I looove my new builds, so.. a big thanks to the complainers ;)

    I was really hoping to see a meme when I clicked on the thread title... but hey, that comment is almost just as good ;)

    ..Unfortunately I don't see many "please nerf Templar XXX" except for jesus beam.. no new build for me.

    Haha, thanks ;) Now that you mention it, yeah, a meme would fit after the title^^
    I started using that beam with my two templars just a few weeks ago (these characters are muuch older, though), so I was lucky that I could add something new :)

    Sometimes I have problems with the description of a skill/spell, often they read as if they're boring and don't do much. Could either be my English (it's not my language), or they could actually be described not in the best way, I don't know. But when I read here on the forums "Skill X" or "Spell Y" are sooo overpowered and need a nerf, I know they must be really good!^^
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    Lady Olivieri - Breton Nightblade VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero | Donna Demnevanni - Breton Templar VR16, DC, Tamriel Hero
    Elaine Benes - Breton Templar VR16, EP | Ray McCluck - Breton Sorcerer VR16, EP
    Moonshadow Demnevanni - Dunmer Dragonknight Lvl 50, EP | Jamie Stacey - Redguard Templar Lvl 50, EP
    Caia Cosades - Imperial Nightblade, EP

  • Ourorboros
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    Now see, this thread is a perfect example why we need LOL button back :D . I got a good chuckle out of this, thanks OP.
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  • Ajaxduo
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    This thread is OP, ZoS nerf it to Oblivion kthx. :p
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  • Moonshadow66
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    Ourorboros wrote: »
    Now see, this thread is a perfect example why we need LOL button back :D . I got a good chuckle out of this, thanks OP.

    No, please no LOL button^^ But you're welcome ;)
    Ajaxduo wrote: »
    This thread is OP, ZoS nerf it to Oblivion kthx. :p

    I'm more for a buff, and ideas, anyone? xd
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  • olemanwinter
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    This is why I can't stand to get into Teamspeak with anyone anymore. It's all b1t@ching about everything being OP.

    Well, the O in OP stands for OVER. So if everything is OP....then it's all just P. Everything can't be OVERpowered.

    - Bow damage in general
    - Two handed damage in general
    - Sorc bolt escape
    - Sorc shields
    - NB cloak
    - Fear
    - Radient Destruction
    - Templar Self Heals
    - Fossiliza
    - Meteor
    - Batswarm
    - Wrecking Blow
    - Nirn trait
    - Sorc mines
    - etc. etc. etc...

    I agree with a few of those....but I'm just sick of how every single thing in the game is OP to someone. Play some alts and get some clarity!
  • MercyKilling
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    Everytime I see a "Class X is overpowered - nerf it!" thread..

    I'll shoot a kitten?


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  • kendellking_chaosb14_ESO
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    Mayrael wrote: »
    As i mentioned in other thread, balance threads (not only nerf it but also buff it) should be aviable only for those who reached certain Alliance War rank (e.g. 30) on at least two clasess.

    ^. X1000

    or have to have some experience in the class you are discussing/trying to nerf.


    I was talking to a guy the other day...a VR14 who was always "getting seen while crouching" and thought it was a "nightblade thing"

    He thought the NB were so OP because of the "stealthing/UNSTEALTHING" thing they could do.

    VR14 complaining about OP NB thinks every time someone uses a detect pot it's a NB using some special skill.


    As a NB, who's entire class revolves around something every class can do...and every class can break with a potion...I wanted to laugh and cry at the same time.

    Hell I was getting ganked by a stamina Templar in a panic I marked him and started drop healing debuffs guy pops a invisibility pot with my mark on him and send an angry tell cause I Ambush > Incapacitating strikes > Surprise Attack as his pot was going called me a macro using hecker like he really thought invisibility had not counters
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  • Lenikus
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    DK
    Talons, random Fire skill, Dragon Blood, Impulse, (Random buff or heal) - Ulti Standard or Dragon Leap

    Sorc
    Just place a resto staff, Shieldstack, heals, use Overload, and be happy.

    Templar
    Jezzuz Beem, healz, healz, healz, healz, - Ulti healz

    NB
    Surprise Attack, Killer's Blade, Dark Cloak (self purge), Ambush, Camouflaged Hunter - Ulti Incapacitating Strike
    Off bar (Oh *** buttons) Mass Hysteria, Dark Shade *any morph*, Dark Cloak, Elusive Mist, relentless focus (for stamina regen and infinit rolling) - Ulti anything.


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  • Moonshadow66
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    Lenikus wrote: »
    DK
    Talons, random Fire skill, Dragon Blood, Impulse, (Random buff or heal) - Ulti Standard or Dragon Leap

    Sorc
    Just place a resto staff, Shieldstack, heals, use Overload, and be happy.

    Templar
    Jezzuz Beem, healz, healz, healz, healz, - Ulti healz

    NB
    Surprise Attack, Killer's Blade, Dark Cloak (self purge), Ambush, Camouflaged Hunter - Ulti Incapacitating Strike
    Off bar (Oh *** buttons) Mass Hysteria, Dark Shade *any morph*, Dark Cloak, Elusive Mist, relentless focus (for stamina regen and infinit rolling) - Ulti anything.


    Did i du right?

    Not really; guilds and weapon skills can be used by anyone, they are no class specific skills.

    To reply to your list:

    DK: I don't use Talons anymore in ages, I also don't use Dragon Blood, and since I have Meteor unlocked, I don't use Standard anymore (although Standard is great, too), Impulse is a destro staff skill which can also be used by anyone.

    Sorc: placing a resto staff can do any other class as well; the shield.. well, it's ok; I never use Overload but Meteor (which any other class can unlock as well), before Meteor I rolled out the Atronach.. but yeah, I'm happy ;)

    Templar: the Beam FTW! Heals yes! I use Nova/Solar Disturbance as an ultimate, as long as my 2 Templars don't have Meteor unlocked.

    NB: I don't use most of them you listed except the Shades and.. no, the others I removed as well OR haven't tried yet. Ambush was great until the one-hit-kill wasn't possible anymore.


    I think the skills I'm using are mostly different ones since ALL my characters and classes are magicka builds and use destro/resto staves.

    Really, with the right class/guild/weapon skills combination, ANY class can be powerful enough to defeat the other, I would say. I have characters of all classes (all Veterans) and I don't think any class is better then the other. Just different.

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    Lady Olivieri - Breton Nightblade VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero | Donna Demnevanni - Breton Templar VR16, DC, Tamriel Hero
    Elaine Benes - Breton Templar VR16, EP | Ray McCluck - Breton Sorcerer VR16, EP
    Moonshadow Demnevanni - Dunmer Dragonknight Lvl 50, EP | Jamie Stacey - Redguard Templar Lvl 50, EP
    Caia Cosades - Imperial Nightblade, EP

  • Moonshadow66
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    Everytime I see a "Class X is overpowered - nerf it!" thread..

    I'll shoot a kitten?


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    Uhm, no. Do you?
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    Frances Demnevanni - Breton Dragonknight VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero | Raygee - Breton Nightblade VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero
    Lady Olivieri - Breton Nightblade VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero | Donna Demnevanni - Breton Templar VR16, DC, Tamriel Hero
    Elaine Benes - Breton Templar VR16, EP | Ray McCluck - Breton Sorcerer VR16, EP
    Moonshadow Demnevanni - Dunmer Dragonknight Lvl 50, EP | Jamie Stacey - Redguard Templar Lvl 50, EP
    Caia Cosades - Imperial Nightblade, EP

  • Moonshadow66
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    This is why I can't stand to get into Teamspeak with anyone anymore. It's all b1t@ching about everything being OP.

    Well, the O in OP stands for OVER. So if everything is OP....then it's all just P. Everything can't be OVERpowered.

    - Bow damage in general
    - Two handed damage in general
    - Sorc bolt escape
    - Sorc shields
    - NB cloak
    - Fear
    - Radient Destruction
    - Templar Self Heals
    - Fossiliza
    - Meteor
    - Batswarm
    - Wrecking Blow
    - Nirn trait
    - Sorc mines
    - etc. etc. etc...

    I agree with a few of those....but I'm just sick of how every single thing in the game is OP to someone. Play some alts and get some clarity!

    I agree (but gave you an insightful) :) I don't use TS since I'm a single player (and mostly I play "shown as offline" anyways, nowadays), but of what I've heard, it takes ages until they discuss their next attack, by that time they agree on something I would have done it myself already. So, no TS for me ;)

    Thanks for posting this list. Most of them I've tried already, only 4 are still on my bars of which one I switch with another ;) I have some Nirn items researched already (I only started a few months ago, I wasn't interested before) but I never used this trait on any item yet.
    I don't use two-handers so I can't say if they're "over"powered (I should give it a try, I guess^^), and I gave up using a bow months ago since it always felt like throwing an egg instead of dealing actual damage, and my skill and all of that skill line were maxed... If I can't handle the two-handed weapons, then I'll just stick with my sticks^^

    I'll look into the few in the list I haven't tried yet, thanks again for posting it :)
    Venus Ocean - Breton Sorceress VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero | Gixia - Breton Sorceress VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero
    Frances Demnevanni - Breton Dragonknight VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero | Raygee - Breton Nightblade VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero
    Lady Olivieri - Breton Nightblade VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero | Donna Demnevanni - Breton Templar VR16, DC, Tamriel Hero
    Elaine Benes - Breton Templar VR16, EP | Ray McCluck - Breton Sorcerer VR16, EP
    Moonshadow Demnevanni - Dunmer Dragonknight Lvl 50, EP | Jamie Stacey - Redguard Templar Lvl 50, EP
    Caia Cosades - Imperial Nightblade, EP

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