Gamertags/PSNID's will display instead of character names on console: Your vote?

Zazaaji

EDIT: NOTE - This is not at all related to floating names that can cause "Screen clutter", or anything along those lines. Please don't vote unless you understand what this thread is for.

It's been confirmed that character names will not display on console versions.
From the ESO Live Q&A (http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/1797630#Comment_1797630):

Why is my gamertag displayed instead of my character name or UserID? – Lots of console beta testers
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We display PSN IDs on PS4 and gamertags on Xbox One instead of character name or UserID to be consistent with the already established social mechanisms available through Microsoft and Sony.

Bad move ZoS, bad..... Neverwinter, FFXIV and many other console MMOs for XB1 and/or PS4 display character names by default. There's no reason you couldn't. Saying it's to keep consistent with Microsoft of Playstation mechanisms is just..... a lazy excuse. Like the lack of text chat support, this will completely KILL any role playing because people can't have the names they want. Instead of an Argonian named "Takes-In-Light" in a roleplay, it could show as "xXxSwagMasta420xXx" or something.

What is your thoughts on this?
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nastuug

Zazaaji wrote: »

It's been confirmed that character names will not display on console versions.
From the ESO Live Q&A (http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/1797630#Comment_1797630):

Why is my gamertag displayed instead of my character name or UserID? – Lots of console beta testers
~
We display PSN IDs on PS4 and gamertags on Xbox One instead of character name or UserID to be consistent with the already established social mechanisms available through Microsoft and Sony.

Bad move ZoS, bad..... Neverwinter, FFXIV and many other console MMOs for XB1 and/or PS4 display character names by default. There's no reason you couldn't. Saying it's to keep consistent with Microsoft of Playstation mechanisms is just..... a lazy excuse. Like the lack of text chat support, this will completely KILL any role playing because people can't have the names they want. Instead of an Argonian named "Spears-In-You" in a roleplay, it will show as "xXxSwagMasta420xXx" or something.

What is your thoughts on this?
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Wait, what? You can't create an individual name per character?

Zazaaji

Very bad decision, character names should be shown by default, like FFXIV, Neverwinter, and countless other MMOs do.

nastuug wrote: »

Zazaaji wrote: »

It's been confirmed that character names will not display on console versions.
From the ESO Live Q&A (http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/1797630#Comment_1797630):

Why is my gamertag displayed instead of my character name or UserID? – Lots of console beta testers
~
We display PSN IDs on PS4 and gamertags on Xbox One instead of character name or UserID to be consistent with the already established social mechanisms available through Microsoft and Sony.

Bad move ZoS, bad..... Neverwinter, FFXIV and many other console MMOs for XB1 and/or PS4 display character names by default. There's no reason you couldn't. Saying it's to keep consistent with Microsoft of Playstation mechanisms is just..... a lazy excuse. Like the lack of text chat support, this will completely KILL any role playing because people can't have the names they want. Instead of an Argonian named "Spears-In-You" in a roleplay, it will show as "xXxSwagMasta420xXx" or something.

What is your thoughts on this?
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Wait, what? You can't create an individual name per character?

You CAN, but it just will only show in NPC conversations, no where else it seems. This is exactly as it was in the beta.
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NewBlacksmurf

It's a good decision, and I'm glad they are restricting visible names to only show Gamertags and PSN ID's.

I'm not sure it was up to ZOS based on what they said on Twitch Live Friday.
They said it was inline with how other console games display character names.

BUT
The names are on console, they just don't show up when you're looking at a real person.
If you mail, group, guild, etc the unique character name displays and is on console just like PC

Nestor

So how are you going to find that certain player character you need for trade or something?

Zazaaji

Very bad decision, character names should be shown by default, like FFXIV, Neverwinter, and countless other MMOs do.

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

I'm not sure it was up to ZOS based on what they said on Twitch Live Friday.
They said it was inline with how other console games display character names.

Which is flat out untrue. As I said: FFXIV, Neverwinter, and many other games on both consoles display Character Names by default, not Gamertags/PSNID's. If every single one of those other games can do it, then there's no reason ESO can't either.

It was definitely up to ZoS, and they elected to show Gamertags and PSN ID's over character names.
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NewBlacksmurf

It's a good decision, and I'm glad they are restricting visible names to only show Gamertags and PSN ID's.

Nestor wrote: »

So how are you going to find that certain player character you need for trade or something?

Look above. The OP and comments are lacking details from the actual game and what was presented and clarified on Twitch Live the last two sessions + actual BETA gameplay

nastuug

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

I'm not sure it was up to ZOS based on what they said on Twitch Live Friday.
They said it was inline with how other console games display character names.

BUT
The names are on console, they just don't show up when you're looking at a real person.
If you mail, group, guild, etc the unique character name displays and is on console just like PC

So essentially it will be exactly as PC is now with the exception of being able to see the unique character name while looking at the physical model of the character? You'll only see the @NewBlacksmurf for example?

Zazaaji

Very bad decision, character names should be shown by default, like FFXIV, Neverwinter, and countless other MMOs do.

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

So how are you going to find that certain player character you need for trade or something?

Look above. The OP and comments are lacking details from the actual game and what was presented and clarified on Twitch Live the last two sessions + actual BETA gameplay

@ZOS_JasonLeavey -
Directly said that they display Gamertags and PSN ID's "instead of character names", which is in complete contrast to what your saying is on the Twitch thing.
Clarification as to what we'll actually see on launch, please?
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nastuug

Zazaaji wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

So how are you going to find that certain player character you need for trade or something?

Look above. The OP and comments are lacking details from the actual game and what was presented and clarified on Twitch Live the last two sessions + actual BETA gameplay

@ZOS_JasonLeavey Directly said that they display Gamertags and PSN ID's "instead of character names", which is in complete contrast to what your saying is on the Twitch thing.
Clarification as to what we'll actually see on launch, please?

I would assume the @<insertname> would show up right? I mean you do have to have an ESO account name created to play on console right?

Nestor

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Look above. The OP and comments are lacking details from the actual game and what was presented and clarified on Twitch Live the last two sessions + actual BETA gameplay

There have been many times I have looked for someone based on their name, but I was also using zone chat/whispers to set up the trade so that was the name I was using, the name I saw in Chat.

Zazaaji

Very bad decision, character names should be shown by default, like FFXIV, Neverwinter, and countless other MMOs do.

nastuug wrote: »

Zazaaji wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

So how are you going to find that certain player character you need for trade or something?

Look above. The OP and comments are lacking details from the actual game and what was presented and clarified on Twitch Live the last two sessions + actual BETA gameplay

@ZOS_JasonLeavey Directly said that they display Gamertags and PSN ID's "instead of character names", which is in complete contrast to what your saying is on the Twitch thing.
Clarification as to what we'll actually see on launch, please?

I would assume the @<insertname> would show up right? I mean you do have to have an ESO account name created to play on console right?

The @name is the Gamertag/PSNID itself on consoles. My Gamertag is actually Zazaaji, so I will always show up as @Zazaaji in ESO on XB1, no matter what my character name is, if Jason Leavey's post is true.
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Grunim

Other. (Explain in comments)

I don't mind this, I intend to play some of my characters on XB1 and when I named them on the PC last year, I never imagined some of those names would be used on a version of the game where there is no text chat. I'd rather people call me by my gamertag instead.

NewBlacksmurf

It's a good decision, and I'm glad they are restricting visible names to only show Gamertags and PSN ID's.

nastuug wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

I'm not sure it was up to ZOS based on what they said on Twitch Live Friday.
They said it was inline with how other console games display character names.

BUT
The names are on console, they just don't show up when you're looking at a real person.
If you mail, group, guild, etc the unique character name displays and is on console just like PC

So essentially it will be exactly as PC is now with the exception of being able to see the unique character name while looking at the physical model of the character? You'll only see the @NewBlacksmurf for example?

Correct, it's only when looking at them or the indicator when a real person is using their mic.
It's exactly like any other console online game.

Ie: Diablo 3 allows you to give each character a specific name but when online other people see your Gamertag

The difference on this game is when you socially interact outside of voice chat you do use the specific character name.

Examples of specific names seen on console or when required:
-Emailing a character in game
-After grouping (both the unique chat name is seen in some screens and gamertag in others)
-Guilds " "

nastuug

Zazaaji wrote: »

nastuug wrote: »

Zazaaji wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

So how are you going to find that certain player character you need for trade or something?

Look above. The OP and comments are lacking details from the actual game and what was presented and clarified on Twitch Live the last two sessions + actual BETA gameplay

@ZOS_JasonLeavey Directly said that they display Gamertags and PSN ID's "instead of character names", which is in complete contrast to what your saying is on the Twitch thing.
Clarification as to what we'll actually see on launch, please?

I would assume the @<insertname> would show up right? I mean you do have to have an ESO account name created to play on console right?

The @name is the Gamertag/PSNID itself on consoles. My Gamertag is actually Zazaaji, so I will always show up as @Zazaaji in ESO on XB1, no matter what my character name is, if Jason Leavey's post is true.
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But that's your XB1 handle, not necessarily the ESO account name right? Meaning that a person could have a different ESO name and xb1 handle/psn name?

edit: Clarification was needed.

Anhedonie

It's a good decision, and I'm glad they are restricting visible names to only show Gamertags and PSN ID's.

ah sorry, got it wrong.

Zazaaji

Very bad decision, character names should be shown by default, like FFXIV, Neverwinter, and countless other MMOs do.

nastuug wrote: »

Zazaaji wrote: »

nastuug wrote: »

Zazaaji wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

So how are you going to find that certain player character you need for trade or something?

Look above. The OP and comments are lacking details from the actual game and what was presented and clarified on Twitch Live the last two sessions + actual BETA gameplay

@ZOS_JasonLeavey Directly said that they display Gamertags and PSN ID's "instead of character names", which is in complete contrast to what your saying is on the Twitch thing.
Clarification as to what we'll actually see on launch, please?

I would assume the @<insertname> would show up right? I mean you do have to have an ESO account name created to play on console right?

The @name is the Gamertag/PSNID itself on consoles. My Gamertag is actually Zazaaji, so I will always show up as @Zazaaji in ESO on XB1, no matter what my character name is, if Jason Leavey's post is true.
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But that's your XB1 handle, not necessarily the ESO account name right?

The Gamertag/PSNID is the account name for consoles. At least it was that way in Beta, and it's how it works in Neverwinter too. I can't imagine that'd change.

Mirra_Halfelven

Very bad decision, character names should be shown by default, like FFXIV, Neverwinter, and countless other MMOs do.

In all honesty I rather see the characters name than "ELITESNIPERD00D420" or someother craptastic gamertag.

NewBlacksmurf

It's a good decision, and I'm glad they are restricting visible names to only show Gamertags and PSN ID's.

Zazaaji wrote: »

nastuug wrote: »

Zazaaji wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

So how are you going to find that certain player character you need for trade or something?

Look above. The OP and comments are lacking details from the actual game and what was presented and clarified on Twitch Live the last two sessions + actual BETA gameplay

@ZOS_JasonLeavey Directly said that they display Gamertags and PSN ID's "instead of character names", which is in complete contrast to what your saying is on the Twitch thing.
Clarification as to what we'll actually see on launch, please?

I would assume the @<insertname> would show up right? I mean you do have to have an ESO account name created to play on console right?

The @name is the Gamertag/PSNID itself on consoles. My Gamertag is actually Zazaaji, so I will always show up as @Zazaaji in ESO on XB1, no matter what my character name is, if Jason Leavey's post is true.
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That's not correct. It only applies to the visual outside of party, group, guild

Argoniawind

Doesn't both me either way, cus I play alone and im only concerned about npcs

Glurin

Very bad decision, character names should be shown by default, like FFXIV, Neverwinter, and countless other MMOs do.

I could maybe understand if this was a generic FPS or something, but frankly, if a game allows you to enter a character name, then it should display the character name by default.

nastuug

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Zazaaji wrote: »

nastuug wrote: »

Zazaaji wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

So how are you going to find that certain player character you need for trade or something?

Look above. The OP and comments are lacking details from the actual game and what was presented and clarified on Twitch Live the last two sessions + actual BETA gameplay

@ZOS_JasonLeavey Directly said that they display Gamertags and PSN ID's "instead of character names", which is in complete contrast to what your saying is on the Twitch thing.
Clarification as to what we'll actually see on launch, please?

I would assume the @<insertname> would show up right? I mean you do have to have an ESO account name created to play on console right?

The @name is the Gamertag/PSNID itself on consoles. My Gamertag is actually Zazaaji, so I will always show up as @Zazaaji in ESO on XB1, no matter what my character name is, if Jason Leavey's post is true.
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That's not correct. It only applies to the visual outside of party, group, guild

@NewBlacksmurf So while grouped, you'll see the unique character names in the upper-left corner of the screen per basic UI layout as usual?

Zazaaji

Very bad decision, character names should be shown by default, like FFXIV, Neverwinter, and countless other MMOs do.

@Anhedonie This has NOTHING to do with that. If the game has that, they will show up no matter what. Only instead of a floating name over an Argonian saying "Takes-In-Light", it might show a floating name as "Swag360Quick420Scope" or something.

This thread and poll is completely unrelated to what your are talking about.
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pecheckler

Very bad decision, character names should be shown by default, like FFXIV, Neverwinter, and countless other MMOs do.

So instead of my appropriate Imperial lore-friendly character name I will instead be known by the immature PSN handle I created a decade ago which Sony does now allowed to be changed?

SeñorCinco

Very bad decision, character names should be shown by default, like FFXIV, Neverwinter, and countless other MMOs do.

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disregard vote

Rook_Master

Very bad decision, character names should be shown by default, like FFXIV, Neverwinter, and countless other MMOs do.

@420xxxNoxxScopexxSwagxLOLOL has joined the party.

NewBlacksmurf

It's a good decision, and I'm glad they are restricting visible names to only show Gamertags and PSN ID's.

nastuug wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Zazaaji wrote: »

nastuug wrote: »

Zazaaji wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

So how are you going to find that certain player character you need for trade or something?

Look above. The OP and comments are lacking details from the actual game and what was presented and clarified on Twitch Live the last two sessions + actual BETA gameplay

@ZOS_JasonLeavey Directly said that they display Gamertags and PSN ID's "instead of character names", which is in complete contrast to what your saying is on the Twitch thing.
Clarification as to what we'll actually see on launch, please?

I would assume the @<insertname> would show up right? I mean you do have to have an ESO account name created to play on console right?

The @name is the Gamertag/PSNID itself on consoles. My Gamertag is actually Zazaaji, so I will always show up as @Zazaaji in ESO on XB1, no matter what my character name is, if Jason Leavey's post is true.
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That's not correct. It only applies to the visual outside of party, group, guild

@NewBlacksmurf So while grouped, you'll see the unique character names in the upper-left corner of the screen per basic UI layout as usual?

The UI shows the gamertag
The group menu shows the character names too

So depending on the menu or screen you may only see one or you can see both.

Look at some of the videos in my sig.
-TESO Group Dungeon
-I might be able to upload another that shows where the real names appear. It won't be before tonight

idk

It's a good decision, and I'm glad they are restricting visible names to only show Gamertags and PSN ID's.

Been playing on PC without character names for over a year and I can say without question I haven't missed them. Granted, other games I usually turn them off as it's just screen clutter.

Granted, I usually recognize characters I am grouped with and it takes me just a second to check someone's name if I am interested.

Zazaaji

Very bad decision, character names should be shown by default, like FFXIV, Neverwinter, and countless other MMOs do.

EDIT: Disregard, added this to the OP.

NewBlacksmurf

It's a good decision, and I'm glad they are restricting visible names to only show Gamertags and PSN ID's.

@Zazaaji
You really should update your post entirely as its a baiting ppl to complain about something that in your OP comes across that you have a lot of misinformation on or that you don't fully understand yourself.

This was also addressed Friday on Twitch live by ZOS in the QnA session

EJRose83

Very bad decision, character names should be shown by default, like FFXIV, Neverwinter, and countless other MMOs do.

What's the point of having character names if no one can see them?