Hmmm, Imperial and Nord cant Have Black Hair Color?

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Vaerth
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My friend bought the game and Imperial edition by my recommendation and said that Dunmer / Breton can have black hair. Is this for real? He played an Imperial through all of his ES games with black hair and was crushed when brown was the only option for darker hair colors. Not sure why he wants it to be black, but I can sympathize with trying to make it like it has been with previous years of ES games.

Did he miss that or does ZoS really not have a black hair color for Imperials and Nords?
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  • c.p.garrett1993_ESO
    Nope. Black seems to be exclusive to only a handful of races.
    I wanted to give my Altmer black hair, to provide contrast to the pale, human-like skin. I could not do so.
    I then wanted to try red, which is a lore-friendly Altmer hair color. Seems to be the only option is an orange-ish color. I think females may have a slightly more "red" option but I am not sure.

    I really wish they would just keep the colors the same for them all.
    They've ditched racial hair styles but added race exclusive hair colors... Why?
    I wish a Nords could have hair/ beard styles like those in Skyrim. I would be more interested in playing one.
    Same with the other races. I would like exclusive hair styles, not colors.
  • Vaerth
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    Nope. Black seems to be exclusive to only a handful of races.
    I wanted to give my Altmer black hair, to provide contrast to the pale, human-like skin. I could not do so.
    I then wanted to try red, which is a lore-friendly Altmer hair color. Seems to be the only option is an orange-ish color. I think females may have a slightly more "red" option but I am not sure.

    I really wish they would just keep the colors the same for them all.
    They've ditched racial hair styles but added race exclusive hair colors... Why?
    I wish a Nords could have hair/ beard styles like those in Skyrim. I would be more interested in playing one.
    Same with the other races. I would like exclusive hair styles, not colors.

    Dang, well I guess he has to settle on a color he is not fond of or roll a different race, thanks for the heads up on it!
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  • Victus
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    Yeah some exclusive styles would make sense (barring people complaining that they want their Breton to have the same beard a Nord can have). I am surprised Imperials don't have black hair, but not that Altmer's do not.
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  • Vaerth
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    Victus wrote: »
    Yeah some exclusive styles would make sense (barring people complaining that they want their Breton to have the same beard a Nord can have). I am surprised Imperials don't have black hair, but not that Altmer's do not.

    Yeah my buddy said his Imperial's in previous ES games always had black hair. He wont run a character with his specific desired look for some reason, I guess he is attached to what he has used for a few years. He will still play, but he is annoyed he bought the Imperial edition to play as an Imperial only to have it not offer a basic black hair color.
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  • Heromofo
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    Trust me i want beautiful blue eyes for my orc like my Imperial has but nope lol it may change with the release of barbershop dlc.
  • c.p.garrett1993_ESO
    Victus wrote: »
    Yeah some exclusive styles would make sense (barring people complaining that they want their Breton to have the same beard a Nord can have). I am surprised Imperials don't have black hair, but not that Altmer's do not.

    They could offer a barber for each race.
    While you may not be able to create your character with a another races' style you would be able to go to a Nord barber (regardless of race) and have them style your hair/ beard like that race.

  • Vaerth
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    Heromofo wrote: »
    Trust me i want beautiful blue eyes for my orc like my Imperial has but nope lol it may change with the release of barbershop dlc.

    DLC? No no this game no longer provides additional content to the players. Just crown shop stuff now lmfao!
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  • Heromofo
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    Vaerth wrote: »

    DLC? No no this game no longer provides additional content to the players. Just crown shop stuff now lmfao!

    In eso live they said there working on a barbershop uuum id be ticked off if it runs through the crown store only.
    I wouldn't mind if it was both gold and crowns tho like:
    Pay 150 crowns
    Or 10,000 gold
  • AlnilamE
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    Really? I guess my friend who plays an Imperial has dark brown hair then. It looked like black on my screen, but maybe I'm just not that picky when it comes to colour.

    I'm fine with certain colours not being available to certain races. It makes sense from a genetics perspective.
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  • c.p.garrett1993_ESO
    AlnilamE wrote: »
    Really? I guess my friend who plays an Imperial has dark brown hair then. It looked like black on my screen, but maybe I'm just not that picky when it comes to colour.

    I'm fine with certain colours not being available to certain races. It makes sense from a genetics perspective.

    Except half-races are a thing.
    In the ES world you take your mother's race but you seem to inherit many of the father's traits. There is no reason another hair color couldn't be plausible.
    I'm not necessarily against limiting color but sometimes it's literally just a half dozen different shades of the same two colors, and nothing else.
    That can really kill customization.
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    Except half-races are a thing.
    In the ES world you take your mother's race but you seem to inherit many of the father's traits. There is no reason another hair color couldn't be plausible.
    I'm not necessarily against limiting color but sometimes it's literally just a half dozen different shades of the same two colors, and nothing else.
    That can really kill customization.

    I so want half races in elder scrolls six be an Imperial cross orc that way i would be human, elf,orc.
    Edited by Heromofo on May 1, 2015 2:02PM
  • c.p.garrett1993_ESO
    Heromofo wrote: »

    I so want half races in elder scrolls six be an Imperial cross orc that way i would be human, elf,orc.

    In order for race-specific traits to begin to show it takes several generations of mixed breeding.
    The first mixed child will look entirely like the race of the mother and adapt only traits such as hair, skin, and eye color from the father. Other facial features may be prevalent, depending on the race, but a human/ orc hybrid would still only look like a human/ orc depending on the mother.
    It would be highly unlikely that an orc trait, with an Imperial mother, would show on the Imperial child. If anything they may only end up taller/ buffer with more aggressive/ ugly features. There would not be any fangs/ tusks or orc ears.

    TL; DR: Unlikely they will ever add half-breeds as their own race. It's more of a RP choice.
  • RDMyers65b14_ESO
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    Odd as the last Imperial that I made two days ago has black hair and I had the same choice for the hair color that I always had since pre-release. No, it is not blue-black of anime but the same black that exists in nature.
  • Shader_Shibes
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    My level 32 Imperial woman has black hair, like jet black.
  • c.p.garrett1993_ESO
    I honestly do not remember if Imperials have then option or not.
    I immediately decided on a light color for my Imperial and did not try to locate black.
    All I know is that some colors are excluded from some races.
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    Odd as the last Imperial that I made two days ago has black hair and I had the same choice for the hair color that I always had since pre-release. No, it is not blue-black of anime but the same black that exists in nature.

    Are you serious? What Gender?

    I tried it out 30 minutes ago after I got off work to verify and the Imperial did indeed have only Brown and not black/ I only tried male, but I would expect both to have the same hair color?
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  • Psychobunni
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    Vaerth wrote: »
    My friend bought the game and Imperial edition by my recommendation and said that Dunmer / Breton can have black hair. Is this for real? He played an Imperial through all of his ES games with black hair and was crushed when brown was the only option for darker hair colors. Not sure why he wants it to be black, but I can sympathize with trying to make it like it has been with previous years of ES games.

    Did he miss that or does ZoS really not have a black hair color for Imperials and Nords?


    I would almost swear my hair was purple in Oblivion or I may be confusing it with a Fallout game. I do wish more colors were available and equal to all races, as it has annoyed me too not having/able to use my standard dark reddish purple.

    That said, since they stated barber shop as a "crown system" on live (my understanding) I'm sure people will be able to buy those options at some point.
    If options weren't necessary, and everyone played the same way, no one would use addons. Fix the UI!

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    I have an Imperial with black hair. Perhaps it isn't the "blackest" black but it certainly IS black. And my Imperial is female.
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    Edited by MornaBaine on May 1, 2015 6:18PM
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  • Vaerth
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    MornaBaine wrote: »
    I have an Imperial with black hair. Perhaps it isn't the "blackest" black but it certainly IS black. And my Imperial is female.
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    Female has black but not male, very odd?
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  • MornaBaine
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    Vaerth wrote: »

    Female has black but not male, very odd?

    If that is indeed the case, then yes, very odd indeed. And clearly a bug I think, which needs to be reported.
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  • Vaerth
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    MornaBaine wrote: »

    If that is indeed the case, then yes, very odd indeed. And clearly a bug I think, which needs to be reported.

    I will send a report :)
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  • Athas24
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    Vaerth wrote: »
    My friend bought the game and Imperial edition by my recommendation and said that Dunmer / Breton can have black hair. Is this for real? He played an Imperial through all of his ES games with black hair and was crushed when brown was the only option for darker hair colors. Not sure why he wants it to be black, but I can sympathize with trying to make it like it has been with previous years of ES games.

    Did he miss that or does ZoS really not have a black hair color for Imperials and Nords?

    I JUST made an imperial girl and she has black hair.
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  • Vaerth
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    Athas24 wrote: »

    I JUST made an imperial girl and she has black hair.

    Yes, we have narrowed that down, read the above comments.

    The males do not have black hair, thats the bugs.
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  • Vaerth
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    Athas24 wrote: »

    I JUST made an imperial girl and she has black hair.

    MALE not FEMALE
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  • BrianESO
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    I have two Imperial males one dragon knight and one nightblade. Both have jet black hair. Just made the dragon knight the other day sooo idk thats wierd.

  • Davadin
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    My Nord was created when game is released. His hair is definitely black.
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  • Gandrhulf_Harbard
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    TBH the lack of decent hairstyles and, for men, beards is a huge disappointment.

    Even LOTRO character creation has better options, and it is years old.

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  • ZephyrWestwind
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    I also have an Imperial Male, black hair. The option I chose was the bottom right color square.
  • Skayaq
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    I also have an Imperial Male, black hair. The option I chose was the bottom right color square.

    Yeah, i just looked at my male imperials hair, definitely black.
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  • Cernow
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    I also have an Imperial Male, black hair. The option I chose was the bottom right color square.

    Same here. Bottom right hair colour for male Imperial is black. It does have a slight sheen to it, so it's perhaps not the jet black some might like. But it's definitely black.

    Nord on the other hand definitely doesn't have black as an option.

    If they ever implement a barber shop I'd like to see all races offered a wider choice of hair colours, with some more exotic colours too. Nothing unnatural like neon pink, but the sort of colours you could achieve from natural dyes (woad, henna, indigo etc).
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