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No word on the 3 mundus stone exploit?

Nifty2g
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@ZOS_GinaBruno There are players abusing 3 mundus stone exploits, is there any word about what is going on with it? UI Bug or an actual Exploit?
#MOREORBS
  • BigM
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    Of course not, it makes the game easier for those people so of course they aren't going to fix it. Infact I bet right now they are trying to find a way to make money off it in the crown store!
    Edited by BigM on April 27, 2015 3:17PM
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  • Nifty2g
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    It would be nice to get a word on a game breaking bug - if it's real or a ui bug
    #MOREORBS
  • WhiskyBob
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    It would be nice to get a word on a game breaking bug - if it's real or a ui bug

    It is real.
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    Looks like we get to sit here while all the leaderboards are filled with exploited scores?
    #MOREORBS
  • Nifty2g
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    @WhiskyBob do you know how to do it? Could you post in here with screenshots to help them out
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  • WhiskyBob
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    No idea. But I see lots of highest ranked players with 3 mundus stones in Rawl Kha or in Craglorn. I'll start posting pictures with names. I don't really care if they ban me actually.

    Exploiters should be named and shamed.
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    WhiskyBob wrote: »
    No idea. But I see lots of highest ranked players with 3 mundus stones in Rawl Kha or in Craglorn. I'll start posting pictures with names. I don't really care if they ban me actually.

    Exploiters should be named and shamed.

    And that is why ZOS wont declare them exploiters....as its so difficult to judge intent and the players view is working as intended.
    /sarcasm
    Anything that can be exploited will be exploited
  • BuggeX
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    @WhiskyBob how do you know if they have 3 Mundus aktiv?
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  • Stinkur
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    Find out how its done, post instructions so everyone can do it. Then it will get addressed I promise, if thousands of people take advantage of it..... it will become a feature or hot fixed. There is power in numbers, if thousands of players all do it same day there will be no BAN, they simply can't afford to lose any more people for a niche game.
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    BuggeX wrote: »
    @WhiskyBob how do you know if they have 3 Mundus aktiv?
    Yeah, that's what I'm really curious about...

    And please, anyone who knows how to get 3 mundus stones, do not post instructions on how to do it on the forums. Send that info directly to ZOS. Assuming this isn't just a UI bug (and it seems likely that it's not), we don't need word on how to do an exploit getting out to any more people...
    Caius Drusus Imperial DK (DC)
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    Falidir Altmer Sorcr (AD)
    J'zharka Khajiit NB (AD)
    Isabeau Runeseer Breton Sorc (DC)
    Fevassa Dunmer DK (EP)
    Manut Redguard Temp (AD)
    Tylera the Summoner Altmer Sorc (EP)
    Svari Snake-Blood Nord DK (AD)
    Ashlyn D'Elyse Breton NB (EP)
    Filindria Bosmer Temp (DC)
    Vigbjorn the Wanderer Nord Warden (EP)
    Hrokki Winterborn Breton Warden (DC)
    Basks-in-the-Sunshine Argonian Temp
    Someone stole my sweetroll
  • Nifty2g
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    UrQuan wrote: »
    BuggeX wrote: »
    @WhiskyBob how do you know if they have 3 Mundus aktiv?
    Yeah, that's what I'm really curious about...

    And please, anyone who knows how to get 3 mundus stones, do not post instructions on how to do it on the forums. Send that info directly to ZOS. Assuming this isn't just a UI bug (and it seems likely that it's not), we don't need word on how to do an exploit getting out to any more people...
    I think let people know how to do it so we can actually get a fix for it ASAP.
    Also, you can check active mundus stones and active effects with a certain addon like srendarr and ftc, forgot which one it is
    #MOREORBS
  • Stinkur
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    UrQuan wrote: »
    BuggeX wrote: »
    @WhiskyBob how do you know if they have 3 Mundus aktiv?
    Yeah, that's what I'm really curious about...

    And please, anyone who knows how to get 3 mundus stones, do not post instructions on how to do it on the forums. Send that info directly to ZOS. Assuming this isn't just a UI bug (and it seems likely that it's not), we don't need word on how to do an exploit getting out to any more people...

    If you want it addressed faster post instructions all over, or yes send bug exploit in so they can sit on it and address it when they feel like it. Be a whistle blower not a lackey to some corporation. :)
  • UrQuan
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    UrQuan wrote: »
    BuggeX wrote: »
    @WhiskyBob how do you know if they have 3 Mundus aktiv?
    Yeah, that's what I'm really curious about...

    And please, anyone who knows how to get 3 mundus stones, do not post instructions on how to do it on the forums. Send that info directly to ZOS. Assuming this isn't just a UI bug (and it seems likely that it's not), we don't need word on how to do an exploit getting out to any more people...
    I think let people know how to do it so we can actually get a fix for it ASAP.
    Also, you can check active mundus stones and active effects with a certain addon like srendarr and ftc, forgot which one it is
    Yeah, but if it is a UI bug, then those addons could be looking at the same place that the UI is looking to see what it thinks is active... It's possible that they're not actually active. The only way to tell for sure would be to look at the stats that the mundus stones in question affect, to see if those stats are actually benefiting from the different stones. Anyway, I'm assuming that it's probably not just a UI issue.
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    Falidir Altmer Sorcr (AD)
    J'zharka Khajiit NB (AD)
    Isabeau Runeseer Breton Sorc (DC)
    Fevassa Dunmer DK (EP)
    Manut Redguard Temp (AD)
    Tylera the Summoner Altmer Sorc (EP)
    Svari Snake-Blood Nord DK (AD)
    Ashlyn D'Elyse Breton NB (EP)
    Filindria Bosmer Temp (DC)
    Vigbjorn the Wanderer Nord Warden (EP)
    Hrokki Winterborn Breton Warden (DC)
    Basks-in-the-Sunshine Argonian Temp
    Someone stole my sweetroll
  • Nifty2g
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    Well, whiskybob posted a video seemed like he had all the effects from said mundus stones
    #MOREORBS
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    WhiskyBob wrote: »
    No idea. But I see lots of highest ranked players with 3 mundus stones in Rawl Kha or in Craglorn. I'll start posting pictures with names. I don't really care if they ban me actually.

    Exploiters should be named and shamed.

    We definitely advise against this. While we appreciate that you're looking for answers, we don't encourage violations of the Code of Conduct to do so. If you have information about this exploit (or any other), please PM it to any forum administrator or submit it in a ticket to customer support. We'd be happy to take a look!
    Edited by ZOS_GaryA on April 27, 2015 4:13PM
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  • UrQuan
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    Well, whiskybob posted a video seemed like he had all the effects from said mundus stones
    He posted a video, but it wasn't his video. It was a video he watched, and when he watched it he said "hey, WTF?" and posted it in the forums to let people know about what he saw in it... So that doesn't mean that @WhiskyBob actually knows how to get 3 mundus stones at once.
    Caius Drusus Imperial DK (DC)
    Bragg Ironhand Orc Temp (DC)
    Neesha Stalks-Shadows Argonian NB (EP)
    Falidir Altmer Sorcr (AD)
    J'zharka Khajiit NB (AD)
    Isabeau Runeseer Breton Sorc (DC)
    Fevassa Dunmer DK (EP)
    Manut Redguard Temp (AD)
    Tylera the Summoner Altmer Sorc (EP)
    Svari Snake-Blood Nord DK (AD)
    Ashlyn D'Elyse Breton NB (EP)
    Filindria Bosmer Temp (DC)
    Vigbjorn the Wanderer Nord Warden (EP)
    Hrokki Winterborn Breton Warden (DC)
    Basks-in-the-Sunshine Argonian Temp
    Someone stole my sweetroll
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    WhiskyBob wrote: »
    No idea. But I see lots of highest ranked players with 3 mundus stones in Rawl Kha or in Craglorn. I'll start posting pictures with names. I don't really care if they ban me actually.

    Exploiters should be named and shamed.

    So... how do YOU know who has 3 mundus stones? Do you have hidden cameras installed next to their PCs?
    #CAREBEARMASTERRACE
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    @ZOS_GaryA, @ZOS_GinaBruno,

    Is this 3 Mundus stone buff being researched by ZOS?

    Since the Twice Born set gives a 2 Mundus stone buff the exploit has to do with that. It could be giving more than 2 buffs with more than 5 items or with items on weapon swaps. Please research this and correct the issue.

    Thanks
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  • Nifty2g
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    WhiskyBob wrote: »
    No idea. But I see lots of highest ranked players with 3 mundus stones in Rawl Kha or in Craglorn. I'll start posting pictures with names. I don't really care if they ban me actually.

    Exploiters should be named and shamed.

    So... how do YOU know who has 3 mundus stones? Do you have hidden cameras installed next to their PCs?
    Addons can show it, but like I said we don't know if its an actual exploit or a UI error, how ever the video showed active effects and the addon showing mundus stones, which leads me to believe its an exploit, and I've heard of certain players abusing it and someone said they have it but dont know how they got it
    #MOREORBS
  • ZOS_GaryA
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    Robbmrp wrote: »
    @ZOS_GaryA, @ZOS_GinaBruno,

    Is this 3 Mundus stone buff being researched by ZOS?

    Since the Twice Born set gives a 2 Mundus stone buff the exploit has to do with that. It could be giving more than 2 buffs with more than 5 items or with items on weapon swaps. Please research this and correct the issue.

    Thanks

    We are actively investigating this, yes.
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    Looks like we get to sit here while all the leaderboards are filled with exploited scores?

    your right! that extra mundus buff really makes a huge difference in game play!

    in fact, it impacts the game so much so, that when I have no mundus buff, I perform the same!
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    WhiskyBob wrote: »
    No idea. But I see lots of highest ranked players with 3 mundus stones in Rawl Kha or in Craglorn. I'll start posting pictures with names. I don't really care if they ban me actually.

    Exploiters should be named and shamed.

    So... how do YOU know who has 3 mundus stones? Do you have hidden cameras installed next to their PCs?
    Addons can show it, but like I said we don't know if its an actual exploit or a UI error, how ever the video showed active effects and the addon showing mundus stones, which leads me to believe its an exploit, and I've heard of certain players abusing it and someone said they have it but dont know how they got it

    Which add-ons can show you another player's mundus stone buffs?
    #CAREBEARMASTERRACE
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    These effects are active and also show in the ui.
    So you really have 3 effects. I don't know his to do it, since I didn't had any time to play at all last month. But a guild mate got it on an alt while leveling. He just changed the mundus and the old one didn't disappear. Then to check it he got a second one on that low level alt. He even has 4 mundus on that char now if I recall correctly. We have no idea about to trigger it unfortunately. So can't give a detailed bug report.

    It should be fixed asap anyhow. So please Zenimax, get your hands on it and even hotfix this. Its game breaking.

    There is a possibility most these players got that accidentally. But can't revert it since it just stacks. There might be a way to trigger it. But not everybody got that "exploit" on purpose.
    Edited by xMovingTarget on April 27, 2015 4:30PM
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    WhiskyBob wrote: »
    No idea. But I see lots of highest ranked players with 3 mundus stones in Rawl Kha or in Craglorn. I'll start posting pictures with names. I don't really care if they ban me actually.

    Exploiters should be named and shamed.

    So... how do YOU know who has 3 mundus stones? Do you have hidden cameras installed next to their PCs?
    Addons can show it, but like I said we don't know if its an actual exploit or a UI error, how ever the video showed active effects and the addon showing mundus stones, which leads me to believe its an exploit, and I've heard of certain players abusing it and someone said they have it but dont know how they got it

    Which add-ons can show you another player's mundus stone buffs?
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    WhiskyBob wrote: »
    No idea. But I see lots of highest ranked players with 3 mundus stones in Rawl Kha or in Craglorn. I'll start posting pictures with names. I don't really care if they ban me actually.

    Exploiters should be named and shamed.

    So... how do YOU know who has 3 mundus stones? Do you have hidden cameras installed next to their PCs?
    Addons can show it, but like I said we don't know if its an actual exploit or a UI error, how ever the video showed active effects and the addon showing mundus stones, which leads me to believe its an exploit, and I've heard of certain players abusing it and someone said they have it but dont know how they got it

    Which add-ons can show you another player's mundus stone buffs?
    Yeah, that's my question too. As far as I'm aware there aren't any addons that show anything about another player aside from their resource pools and such when you're grouped with them.
    Caius Drusus Imperial DK (DC)
    Bragg Ironhand Orc Temp (DC)
    Neesha Stalks-Shadows Argonian NB (EP)
    Falidir Altmer Sorcr (AD)
    J'zharka Khajiit NB (AD)
    Isabeau Runeseer Breton Sorc (DC)
    Fevassa Dunmer DK (EP)
    Manut Redguard Temp (AD)
    Tylera the Summoner Altmer Sorc (EP)
    Svari Snake-Blood Nord DK (AD)
    Ashlyn D'Elyse Breton NB (EP)
    Filindria Bosmer Temp (DC)
    Vigbjorn the Wanderer Nord Warden (EP)
    Hrokki Winterborn Breton Warden (DC)
    Basks-in-the-Sunshine Argonian Temp
    Someone stole my sweetroll
  • WhiskyBob
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    These effects are active and also show in the ui.
    So you really have 3 effects. I don't know his to do it, since I didn't had any time to play at all last month. But a guild mate got it on an alt while leveling. He just changed the mundus and the old one didn't disappear. Then to check it he got a second one on that low level alt. He even has 4 mundus on that char now if I recall correctly. We have no idea about to trigger it unfortunately. So can't give a detailed bug report.

    It should be fixed asap anyhow. So please Zenimax, get your hands on it and even hotfix this. Its game breaking.

    There is a possibility most these players got that accidentally. But can't revert it since it just stacks. There might be a way to trigger it. But not everybody got that "exploit" on purpose.

    Top few places in vet dsa are not "accidental" trust me.
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    Cuyler wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    WhiskyBob wrote: »
    No idea. But I see lots of highest ranked players with 3 mundus stones in Rawl Kha or in Craglorn. I'll start posting pictures with names. I don't really care if they ban me actually.

    Exploiters should be named and shamed.

    So... how do YOU know who has 3 mundus stones? Do you have hidden cameras installed next to their PCs?
    Addons can show it, but like I said we don't know if its an actual exploit or a UI error, how ever the video showed active effects and the addon showing mundus stones, which leads me to believe its an exploit, and I've heard of certain players abusing it and someone said they have it but dont know how they got it

    Which add-ons can show you another player's mundus stone buffs?
    "S'rendarr"
    Doesn't that one only show your buffs and the buffs you put on other players? I don't use it, but I didn't think it showed buffs that other players put on themselves.
    Caius Drusus Imperial DK (DC)
    Bragg Ironhand Orc Temp (DC)
    Neesha Stalks-Shadows Argonian NB (EP)
    Falidir Altmer Sorcr (AD)
    J'zharka Khajiit NB (AD)
    Isabeau Runeseer Breton Sorc (DC)
    Fevassa Dunmer DK (EP)
    Manut Redguard Temp (AD)
    Tylera the Summoner Altmer Sorc (EP)
    Svari Snake-Blood Nord DK (AD)
    Ashlyn D'Elyse Breton NB (EP)
    Filindria Bosmer Temp (DC)
    Vigbjorn the Wanderer Nord Warden (EP)
    Hrokki Winterborn Breton Warden (DC)
    Basks-in-the-Sunshine Argonian Temp
    Someone stole my sweetroll
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    UrQuan wrote: »
    Cuyler wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    WhiskyBob wrote: »
    No idea. But I see lots of highest ranked players with 3 mundus stones in Rawl Kha or in Craglorn. I'll start posting pictures with names. I don't really care if they ban me actually.

    Exploiters should be named and shamed.

    So... how do YOU know who has 3 mundus stones? Do you have hidden cameras installed next to their PCs?
    Addons can show it, but like I said we don't know if its an actual exploit or a UI error, how ever the video showed active effects and the addon showing mundus stones, which leads me to believe its an exploit, and I've heard of certain players abusing it and someone said they have it but dont know how they got it

    Which add-ons can show you another player's mundus stone buffs?
    "S'rendarr"
    Doesn't that one only show your buffs and the buffs you put on other players? I don't use it, but I didn't think it showed buffs that other players put on themselves.
    Nah you can set it up, it shows other peoples active buffs, theres another addon like ftc that shows it as well
    #MOREORBS
  • Cuyler
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    UrQuan wrote: »
    Cuyler wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    WhiskyBob wrote: »
    No idea. But I see lots of highest ranked players with 3 mundus stones in Rawl Kha or in Craglorn. I'll start posting pictures with names. I don't really care if they ban me actually.

    Exploiters should be named and shamed.

    So... how do YOU know who has 3 mundus stones? Do you have hidden cameras installed next to their PCs?
    Addons can show it, but like I said we don't know if its an actual exploit or a UI error, how ever the video showed active effects and the addon showing mundus stones, which leads me to believe its an exploit, and I've heard of certain players abusing it and someone said they have it but dont know how they got it

    Which add-ons can show you another player's mundus stone buffs?
    "S'rendarr"
    Doesn't that one only show your buffs and the buffs you put on other players? I don't use it, but I didn't think it showed buffs that other players put on themselves.
    it can be configured to show all buffs on a "target", in this case, another player. It will even show if they're and ESO+ member ;)
    Edited by Cuyler on April 27, 2015 4:36PM
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  • xMovingTarget
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    UrQuan wrote: »
    Cuyler wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    WhiskyBob wrote: »
    No idea. But I see lots of highest ranked players with 3 mundus stones in Rawl Kha or in Craglorn. I'll start posting pictures with names. I don't really care if they ban me actually.

    Exploiters should be named and shamed.

    So... how do YOU know who has 3 mundus stones? Do you have hidden cameras installed next to their PCs?
    Addons can show it, but like I said we don't know if its an actual exploit or a UI error, how ever the video showed active effects and the addon showing mundus stones, which leads me to believe its an exploit, and I've heard of certain players abusing it and someone said they have it but dont know how they got it

    Which add-ons can show you another player's mundus stone buffs?
    "S'rendarr"
    Doesn't that one only show your buffs and the buffs you put on other players? I don't use it, but I didn't think it showed buffs that other players put on themselves.

    It also shows other players "long buffs" when you hover your reticle over them. Such as mundus, PvP buffs, food buffs, vamp/ww


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