Magicka Build NightBlade with 2H Sword?

Vaerth

Is it possible to build a Magicka NightBlade with a 2H weapon? The weapon would be for the melee range of course and provide no need for weapon skills. All my skills would be class based, on both bars.

Bar 1:

Lotus Fan
Swallow Soul
Concealed Weapon
Mass Hysteria
Dark Cloak
Soul Harvest

Bar 2:

Sap Essence
Twisting Path
Invigorating Drain
Crippling Grasp
Shadow Image
Soul Assault

Armor - 5 Heavy 2 light

all armor glyphs Max magicka

Jewelry Glyphs Spell Damage

My 2H would be for the RP of the build, which is a Shadow Knight style build. I really like many of the skills that are Magicka based for this class.

Vaerth

All CP system would focus on magicka regen and cost reduction as well, and of course similar focus to further damage.

kaithuzar

2 handers use to, but no longer, offer any passives worthy of a magic build.This is unfortunate, but true.

Vaerth

kaithuzar wrote: »

2 handers use to, but no longer, offer any passives worthy of a magic build.This is unfortunate, but true.

Well I would not use and weapon passives for the build.

Does this mean that ESO is not longer a game where you can make any build work?

NewBlacksmurf

Vaerth wrote: »

kaithuzar wrote: »

2 handers use to, but no longer, offer any passives worthy of a magic build.This is unfortunate, but true.

Well I would not use and weapon passives for the build.

Does this mean that ESO is not longer a game where you can make any build work?

"Any build" was not the original intent but we did see some odd things work

As updates occur I believe many builds will be viable for different events but I don't believe that the game allowed "any build combinations" to be viable even prior to updates.

zeitzbachrwb17_ESO

Vaerth wrote: »

kaithuzar wrote: »

2 handers use to, but no longer, offer any passives worthy of a magic build.This is unfortunate, but true.

Well I would not use and weapon passives for the build.

Does this mean that ESO is not longer a game where you can make any build work?

"Play anyway you want" isn't the same as saying "Every way is effective"

Like, it pretty much means you can play whatever you want but you better prepare to accept the consequences for running with scissors.

Vaerth

zeitzbachrwb17_ESO wrote: »

Vaerth wrote: »

kaithuzar wrote: »

2 handers use to, but no longer, offer any passives worthy of a magic build.This is unfortunate, but true.

Well I would not use and weapon passives for the build.

Does this mean that ESO is not longer a game where you can make any build work?

"Play anyway you want" isn't the same as saying "Every way is effective"

Like, it pretty much means you can play whatever you want but you better prepare to accept the consequences for running with scissors.

I guess the other ESO games I played where I could wield spells then swing a battle axe were what I am used to, not this excessively class based stuff where in order to play effectively I have to give up what I like...

Dixa

Vaerth wrote: »

zeitzbachrwb17_ESO wrote: »

Vaerth wrote: »

kaithuzar wrote: »

2 handers use to, but no longer, offer any passives worthy of a magic build.This is unfortunate, but true.

Well I would not use and weapon passives for the build.

Does this mean that ESO is not longer a game where you can make any build work?

"Play anyway you want" isn't the same as saying "Every way is effective"

Like, it pretty much means you can play whatever you want but you better prepare to accept the consequences for running with scissors.

I guess the other ESO games I played where I could wield spells then swing a battle axe were what I am used to, not this excessively class based stuff where in order to play effectively I have to give up what I like...

those other games were not mmorpg's and did not have to give two squats about class balance.

most builds work, provided you build them logically. a 2h wielding nightblade with no weaopn skills and all attributes in magika...yeah. no. don't do that.

joshisanonymous

Battle Rush and (maybe??) Follow Up would be some very minor boons I guess. I mean, if you're not using a single weapon skill, I don't see why it would make a world of difference, but your light/heavy attacks with a 2-hander would hit for practically nothing and you'd have more relevant boons with the destro/resto staff passives. I say go for it; I think the whole "no, that's stupid, you're stupid," responses are overstated; but as other have said, don't expect it to be optimal.

Vaerth

joshisanonymous wrote: »

Battle Rush and (maybe??) Follow Up would be some very minor boons I guess. I mean, if you're not using a single weapon skill, I don't see why it would make a world of difference, but your light/heavy attacks with a 2-hander would hit for practically nothing and you'd have more relevant boons with the destro/resto staff passives. I say go for it; I think the whole "no, that's stupid, you're stupid," responses are overstated; but as other have said, don't expect it to be optimal.

This is the best answer by far!

jluceyub17_ESO

DW Templar magicka builds can do solid DPS. You don't use any DW skills, but instead lots of class skills while taking advantage of the fact that DW provides more spell power than any Staff and provides an additional slot for set bonuses. I'd imagine you could figure out something similar for an NB.

dwtdwtdwt

I would suggest creating a Kajiit NB for this style of play for their passive to melee weapon crit. Either that or Breton for their passives to both magicka recovery, and reduction of magicka costs.

Using heavy armor will help your melee damage a little bit, but do nothing for your magic spells. Wearing heavy might help you with your Swallow Soul healing and Sap Essence heals, but only a little bit.

But your magicka costs are going to be ridiculous. You won't be able to cast very many Dark Cloaks before running out of magicka.

jluceyub17_ESO

dwtdwtdwt wrote: »

I would suggest creating a Kajiit NB for this style of play for their passive to melee weapon crit. Either that or Breton for their passives to both magicka recovery, and reduction of magicka costs.

Using heavy armor will help your melee damage a little bit, but do nothing for your magic spells. Wearing heavy might help you with your Swallow Soul healing and Sap Essence heals, but only a little bit.

But your magicka costs are going to be ridiculous. You won't be able to cast very many Dark Cloaks before running out of magicka.

Breton passives are: Reduce Spell Cost, Increase Spell Resist, Increase Max Magicka - no recovery boost

Daveheart

In 2 heavy / 5 light, you'd have better recovery and spell penetration while still getting a decent amount of benefit and looks from heavy armor. Also, @joshisanonymous and @jluceyub17_ESO are correct. You can actually achieve a higher spell power and get decent results, with DW or even 2H. However, your light/heavy attacks will be more like slapping the enemy with a wet noodle than actually hitting them with a 2H sword.

Also, @dwtdwtdwt - the juggernaut passive in heavy armor no longer increases melee weapon damage.

dwtdwtdwt

Well, I guess I'm just living in the past.

Messy1

I have a magicka based nightblade with two handed. Still perfecting the build. Will let you know how it turns out when I hit VR 14