Ornate Trait Items - Seen in Guild Stores...

Moonshadow66 · April 2015

I guess the title says it all - every now and then I come across guild stores which have items with the Ornate Trait for sale.
My question is: Why?
The only thing a player can do with a store-bought Ornate Trait item is selling it - mostly for much less than they paid for.

For the ones who aren't aware, I just want to point out that these traits are not the same as the "Fortify Barter" enchantment in Skyrim where you can sell ALL your stuff for X% more and buy for X% less when an item with this enchantment is equipped.
In ESO, only the items with the Ornate Trait have a higher value, this doesn't have any effect on your other items when you sell them.

Also, the Ornate Trait cannot be researched (too bad, actually, but we can't).
The Intricate Trait cannot be researched either, but that's the only one of these two traits which makes sense to sell in guild stores since they're useful for progressing in your crafting skill by deconstructing this item.

Thanks for reading

UrQuan · April 2015

My guess is that the people listing them don't realize this:

Raygee wrote: »

Also, the Ornate Trait cannot be researched (too bad, actually, but we can't).

driosketch · April 2015

It doesn't make much sense but if people can sell them, some well. I guess just buyer beware.

Moonshadow66 · April 2015

UrQuan wrote: »

My guess is that the people listing them don't realize this:

Raygee wrote: »

Also, the Ornate Trait cannot be researched (too bad, actually, but we can't).

Exactly.

Moonshadow66 · April 2015

driosketch wrote: »

It doesn't make much sense but if people can sell them, some well. I guess just buyer beware.

Yes.. I just posted this in case some players don't know.
I remember when I started playing (beta/pre-launch), I didn't know either.. but could also have been a language issue on my end, back then

redspecter23 · April 2015

I've seen worse. Foul Hide and other mob dropped trash items. I saw used bait in a store today while browsing. There are also the far too numerous "potato" being sold for 10k+.

OrphanHelgen · April 2015

I once put an ornate item for sale overpriced, just for trolling. It might be that case.

Moonshadow66 · April 2015

redspecter23 wrote: »

I've seen worse. Foul Hide and other mob dropped trash items. I saw used bait in a store today while browsing. There are also the far too numerous "potato" being sold for 10k+.

These items are useless (except for the potatoes^^), no need to sell them in guild stores.
But with the Ornate Trait it's different, though, since I guess some players just don't know that this trait is only good for one thing: selling the item for a better price.

Moonshadow66 · April 2015

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

I once put an ornate item for sale overpriced, just for trolling. It might be that case.

Insightful.

Nestor · April 2015

I have seen some of the goofiest things in guild stores. When we had the older foods I would see Congealed Soups for sale. I have seen base white weapon and armor loot. It's like some guild members were taking the adage, sell your excess stuff a little too seriously. I wonder if they realized they pay up front to list items in the guilds stores.

Moonshadow66 · April 2015

Nestor wrote: »

I have seen some of the goofiest things in guild stores. When we had the older foods I would see Congealed Soups for sale. I have seen base white weapon and armor loot. It's like some guild members were taking the adage, sell your excess stuff a little too seriously. I wonder if they realized they pay up front to list items in the guilds stores.

Haha, yeah, I've seen these, too^^ Also these 0 value weapons and armor (0 before Justice System).. it's like being in the wrong movie

Arunei · April 2015

Nestor wrote: »

I have seen some of the goofiest things in guild stores. When we had the older foods I would see Congealed Soups for sale. I have seen base white weapon and armor loot. It's like some guild members were taking the adage, sell your excess stuff a little too seriously. I wonder if they realized they pay up front to list items in the guilds stores.

If the item doesn't sell and is returned, I'm pretty sure the Guild Store fee is returned as well. Unless people are putting something in for a ridiculous amount of gold, most people aren't going to miss the few extra "tax" coins they're parting with as well.

Valymer · April 2015

Caveat emptor, I suppose?

pugyourself · April 2015

This makes me long for the days of selling a stack of pinguis.

WhitePawPrints · April 2015

This is the reason why I don't even bother with Guild Stores. The rare chance you find something useful, (who buys only one shadowhide?!), it's way overpriced. Don't know how Guilds can sink so much gold into the stalls.

Ourorboros · April 2015

WhitePawPrints wrote: »

This is the reason why I don't even bother with Guild Stores. The rare chance you find something useful, (who buys only one shadowhide?!), it's way overpriced. Don't know how Guilds can sink so much gold into the stalls.

This seems more than a little misguided. Guild stores are a great place to find things that you would be totally reliant for on RNG. Or from end game content or PVP drops that are beyond your characters abilities. I've seen the trash there too, but if someone is foolish enough to either buy or sell those items that's on them. It is not a comment on the quality of items in the guild stores. My last nirnhone research finishes tomorrow, and I bought most of the item from guild vendors. The experience is what you make it.

Nestor · April 2015

Arunei wrote: »

If the item doesn't sell and is returned, I'm pretty sure the Guild Store fee is returned as well. Unless people are putting something in for a ridiculous amount of gold, most people aren't going to miss the few extra "tax" coins they're parting with as well.

The listing fee is taken from you when you list the item, that is never returned. Otherwise you would see a gold amount in the email when the item times out. What you are not charged is the taxes that is further taken out of the transaction when it sells, as there is no transaction to tax.

AngryNord · April 2015

Raygee wrote: »

I guess the title says it all - every now and then I come across guild stores which have items with the Ornate Trait for sale.
My question is: Why?

Probably for the same reason you see Foul Hide in Guild Stores... Or Khajiit motifs for 5000 gold - people are stupid enough to actually pay for it.

Keron · April 2015

What some don't seem to realize is, that some of the "ornate" stuff really shows this trait. They look marvelous and slightly changed from any coloring you can achieve by the dye system (at least as far as I have the colors unlocked).

Now I just need to put a ton of ornate stuff in the store for crazy prices and see who belives this...

ItsGlaive · April 2015

I've occasionally listed one by accident as I'm going through emptying my bags, always feel like an idiot when this happens

hamgatan · April 2015

AngryNord wrote: »

Probably for the same reason you see Foul Hide in Guild Stores... Or Khajiit motifs for 5000 gold - people are stupid enough to actually pay for it.

I pity the person who pays 75,000g for the non-set item 'Mark of the Morag Tong' ring I saw listed yesterday....

kitcat300_ESO · August 2018

When on TTC (Tamriel Trade Center) to price check some potions I wanted to sell.

The first 500 or so pages were saturated with the monster drop health potions....

Delpi · August 2018

There is a daily quest in clockwork city that you need 3 pieces of ornate items... I hope this answer your question.

Qyrk · August 2018

They are also used in a daily quest item for Glitter and Gleam quest (clockwork city). some people are lazy to farm them, therefore many (including myself) put a premium on these items.

Salvas_Aren · August 2018

You still can decon ornates. Does anybody know whether ornates drop more mats upon decon than non-ornates? Ofc excl of intricates.

Epona222 · August 2018

Wow, big necro, this thread is practically all rotting smells and flies at this point!

CWC crow dailies are also a thing since this thread was started of course - but so are a lot of things, both in game and IRL. Like horseless carriages and the Wright brothers

zaria · August 2018

Delpi wrote: »

There is a daily quest in clockwork city that you need 3 pieces of ornate items... I hope this answer your question.

Yes same with daedra husks, fool hide and the other pointless monster drops,

JKorr · August 2018

I have to admit that on more than one occasion I've decided that I needed to decon an ornate item more than I needed the gold from selling it. Especially since jewelry crafting; I'd rather decon ornate rings than sell them. That will probably change as soon as I have the skill leveled, but in the meantime exp > gold.

Jayman1000 · August 2018

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

I guess the title says it all - every now and then I come across guild stores which have items with the Ornate Trait for sale.
My question is: Why?
The only thing a player can do with a store-bought Ornate Trait item is selling it - mostly for much less than they paid for.

For the ones who aren't aware, I just want to point out that these traits are not the same as the "Fortify Barter" enchantment in Skyrim where you can sell ALL your stuff for X% more and buy for X% less when an item with this enchantment is equipped.
In ESO, only the items with the Ornate Trait have a higher value, this doesn't have any effect on your other items when you sell them.

Also, the Ornate Trait cannot be researched (too bad, actually, but we can't).
The Intricate Trait cannot be researched either, but that's the only one of these two traits which makes sense to sell in guild stores since they're useful for progressing in your crafting skill by deconstructing this item.

Thanks for reading

An example: Platinum rings/necklaces with the ornate trait have been more valuable for buyers that want to level jewelry than the value of selling to a npc vendor. Not because of the ornate trait, they dont care for that, but just because you decon the ring. At some point the demand for these jewelry items will become so low that you'll get more for just vendoring them and then you'll stop seeing them sold in guild stores.

SquareSausage · August 2018

Yea I also decon ornate jewellery. Guess thats why being sold.

Epona222 · August 2018

I think everyone who didn't rush to the top of the tank wrt jewelry crafting is deconning every bit of jewelry that comes their way right now - pewter ring with no trait? GIMME!!! Decon