We need a forum for complaints and claims.

Betahkiin

The forum needs a new segment dedicated to the claims and complaints from users. Currently these issues are placed in the general forum mingling with the rest of the contributions generating a bad environment for those who want to share other ideas.

Moreover, having all complaints and claims in a particular place makes it easier moderators can continue this type of topics. It also prevents some users intentionally ruin the experience of participation of many repeating known complaints and claims in search of promoting unrest and widespread discontent.

Thus we are respecting their ability to express themselves and who want to participate or watch that type of content can too.

WhitePawPrints

Good intention.

Not to be negative, but I don't think it will work though. We already have a lot of threads started here rather than the appropriate forums for convenience and popularity.

A complaint forum just doesn't sound like it'd be a popular place for fans to visit.

Betahkiin

WhitePawPrints wrote: »

Good intention.

Not to be negative, but I don't think it will work though. We already have a lot of threads started here rather than the appropriate forums for convenience and popularity.

A complaint forum just doesn't sound like it'd be a popular place for fans to visit.

If we have a dedicated forum and a user makes a contribution claim to ZOS in the general forum became obvious that they are looking to attract the attention of people and promote discontent rather than supposedly always insinuate that is to demand something to the company. This makes it also easier moderate malicious issues.

pugyourself

I disagree with that idea. People need to be able to communicate with ZOS in a transparent way. And other users need to see when threads get closed or disappeared. That won't happen in a buried sub forum.

I enjoy your posts, but if we are being honest, most of them belong in the Community Creations forum. But I'm guessing you post here so people have the opportunity to see them. And I'm totally ok with that because I like your stuff and wouldn't see it in its proper subforum.

I don't think others should be denied a voice, especially when they are raising valid issues with the company and/or community.

Edited for spelling

Mumnoch

This game doesn't want transparency...where in the world did you get that idea?!


All of us that have reduced our play time to almost nill because of the Sorc issues, the prudish armor design's, and Zenimax's wasted resources to bring us things we didn't ask for instead of any of the things we have asked for would make it not in Zenimax's best interest to create a forum where we could freely speak the truth and other user's could quickly sum up the state of the game.

Better that they continue the way things are by deleting/silencing/ignoring negative reviews while praising people who praise them. They do it on this forum and they do it on the SubReddit ESO forum. This game is full of disappoint.

NewBlacksmurf

I thought the troubleshooting support section was it. Since the forums updates I guess most end up in general

Betahkiin

pugyourself wrote: »

I disagree with that idea. People need to be able to communicate with ZOS in a transparent way. And other users need to see when threads get closed or disappeared. That won't happen in a buried sub forum.

I enjoy your posts, but if we are being honest, most of them belong in the Community Creations forum. But I'm guessing you post here so people have the opportunity to see them. And I'm totally ok with that because I like your stuff and wouldn't see it in its proper subforum.

I don't think others should be denied a voice, especially when they are raising valid issues with the company and/or community.

Edited for spelling

What I propose does not deny the voice of anyone besides the forum would be accessible to everyone, would not be covered or hidden.

Constructive ideas for over one disagrees do not poison the atmosphere of negativity and often of disrespect or insinuations that lack sufficient support.

Sharing contents and general ideas is not the same to denigrate people in their offices or functions, make apocalyptic predictions, encourage mockery and discontent.

If I walk into a bar and hear people talking politely to what not interests me I can stay in place without problems, if what I hear is constant teasing, yelling, insults, threats, slurs, I get up and I'll talk to the manager who kindly send out who tries to disturb the peace of others in a common place.

One theme allows the coexistence, the other seeks ruin.

pugyourself

Betahkiin wrote: »

pugyourself wrote: »

I disagree with that idea. People need to be able to communicate with ZOS in a transparent way. And other users need to see when threads get closed or disappeared. That won't happen in a buried sub forum.

I enjoy your posts, but if we are being honest, most of them belong in the Community Creations forum. But I'm guessing you post here so people have the opportunity to see them. And I'm totally ok with that because I like your stuff and wouldn't see it in its proper subforum.

I don't think others should be denied a voice, especially when they are raising valid issues with the company and/or community.

Edited for spelling

What I propose does not deny the voice of anyone besides the forum would be accessible to everyone, would not be covered or hidden.

Constructive ideas for over one disagrees do not poison the atmosphere of negativity and often of disrespect or insinuations that lack sufficient support.

Sharing contents and general ideas is not the same to denigrate people in their offices or functions, make apocalyptic predictions, encourage mockery and discontent.

If I walk into a bar and hear people talking politely to what not interests me I can stay in place without problems, if what I hear is constant teasing, yelling, insults, threats, slurs, I get up and I'll talk to the manager who kindly send out who tries to disturb the peace of others in a common place.

One theme allows the coexistence, the other seeks ruin.

I think you'd see less frustration if ZOS would simply be honest with its players and adhere to ethical and well-accepted business practices (like allowing opt-outs from spam). I have nice things to say about the game but I think what you are witnessing right now is massive frustration from users about the way they've been treated. This weekend's spam and subsequent insulting official reply from ZOS really hurt a lot of users.

So I think it's right that the forums are filled with topics addressing this in the last 48 hours. Instead of burying the threads in a subforum, ZOS would be better to address the issues and make amends to its subscribers for treating them with such disrespect.

I'm someone who never thought I'd feel this way because I truly love the game. But if the issues that people are raising with such passion in the last 48 hours aren't addressed soon and well, I fear the game I love will be gone sooner than later. And that would be a shame.

Edited for spelling

Betahkiin

Mumnoch wrote: »

This game doesn't want transparency...where in the world did you get that idea?!


All of us that have reduced our play time to almost nill because of the Sorc issues, the prudish armor design's, and Zenimax's wasted resources to bring us things we didn't ask for instead of any of the things we have asked for would make it not in Zenimax's best interest to create a forum where we could freely speak the truth and other user's could quickly sum up the state of the game.

Better that they continue the way things are by deleting/silencing/ignoring negative reviews while praising people who praise them. They do it on this forum and they do it on the SubReddit ESO forum. This game is full of disappoint.

The contributions of complaints exist today in the general forum and plug a lot of interesting and positive community issues. Having an exclusive section frees the general forum to have a healthier exchange between users without being harassed by the constant repetition of the same type of complaints which sometimes reaches result in spamm.

Most claims nothing new, are only individual complaints of personal experience about known issues throughout the community, not give any new and not give any solution.

pugyourself

Betahkiin wrote: »

Mumnoch wrote: »

This game doesn't want transparency...where in the world did you get that idea?!


All of us that have reduced our play time to almost nill because of the Sorc issues, the prudish armor design's, and Zenimax's wasted resources to bring us things we didn't ask for instead of any of the things we have asked for would make it not in Zenimax's best interest to create a forum where we could freely speak the truth and other user's could quickly sum up the state of the game.

Better that they continue the way things are by deleting/silencing/ignoring negative reviews while praising people who praise them. They do it on this forum and they do it on the SubReddit ESO forum. This game is full of disappoint.

The contributions of complaints exist today in the general forum and plug a lot of interesting and positive community issues. Having an exclusive section frees the general forum to have a healthier exchange between users without being harassed by the constant repetition of the same type of complaints which sometimes reaches result in spamm.

Most claims nothing new, are only individual complaints of personal experience about known issues throughout the community, not give any new and not give any solution.

This is because ZOS is choosing to ignore the issues. Or worse, tell an "untruth" about the issue. The official response about the spam ads was that ZOS had no ability to send in-game emails.

So let me ask you, have you ever received an in-game email from ZOS? Because I sure have.

If these issues were being resolved in a way that showed a modicum of respect for subscribers and players, you'd see these posts diminish significantly in frequency and improve significantly in tone and demeanor.

You can only poke even the nicest dog with a stick so many times...

jelliedsoup

Are you a zos employee sick of moving complaints into an obscure forum?

Sylveria_Relden

I'm sure if they started auto-deleting threads with nerf calls in them, there would be less of a need for a separate forum area.

More than half of the threads I've seen are whine-threads calling for nerfs for other classes, or restrictions to other's gameplay, etc. It's quite ridiculous, IMO.

L2P your class, learn how to adapt, and stop whining because someone else can do something you can't. If you think it's so "easymode" to play the other class you're whining about- you've also got the option to play it as well. It's as simple as rolling the same class and voila! (I know, I know... that would take *work*)

Another thing that seriously aggravates the hell out of me are all the P2W claims being tossed about as if it's totally "game-breaking" or something, when in reality it's (arguably) not even a minor inconvenience if anything to those who don't have whatever they're whining about.

There's nothing that can be bought in the Crown Store that another cannot obtain by the same method- and nothing that's sold actually "interferes" with anothers gameplay at all.

(TL;DR = we don't need a separate area... just more moderation action)

Betahkiin

pugyourself wrote: »

Betahkiin wrote: »

pugyourself wrote: »

I disagree with that idea. People need to be able to communicate with ZOS in a transparent way. And other users need to see when threads get closed or disappeared. That won't happen in a buried sub forum.

I enjoy your posts, but if we are being honest, most of them belong in the Community Creations forum. But I'm guessing you post here so people have the opportunity to see them. And I'm totally ok with that because I like your stuff and wouldn't see it in its proper subforum.

I don't think others should be denied a voice, especially when they are raising valid issues with the company and/or community.

Edited for spelling

What I propose does not deny the voice of anyone besides the forum would be accessible to everyone, would not be covered or hidden.

Constructive ideas for over one disagrees do not poison the atmosphere of negativity and often of disrespect or insinuations that lack sufficient support.

Sharing contents and general ideas is not the same to denigrate people in their offices or functions, make apocalyptic predictions, encourage mockery and discontent.

If I walk into a bar and hear people talking politely to what not interests me I can stay in place without problems, if what I hear is constant teasing, yelling, insults, threats, slurs, I get up and I'll talk to the manager who kindly send out who tries to disturb the peace of others in a common place.

One theme allows the coexistence, the other seeks ruin.

I think you'd see less frustration if ZOS would simply be honest with its players and adhere to ethical and well-accepted business practices (like allowing opt-outs from spam). I have nice things to say about the game but I think what you are witnessing right now is massive frustration from users about the way they've been treated. This weekend's spam and subsequent insulting official reply from ZOS really hurt a lot of users.

So I think it's right that the forums are filled with topics addressing this in the last 48 hours. Instead of burying the threads in a subforum, ZOS would be better to address the issues and make amends to its subscribers for treating them with such disrespect.

I'm someone who never thought I'd feel this way because I truly love the game. But if the issues that people are raising with such passion in the last 48 hours aren't addressed soon and well, I fear the game I love will be gone sooner than later. And that would be a shame.

Edited for spelling

The problem is that the cost of this fight between dissatisfied users and ZOS are paying many users who currently enjoy the game and want to continue doing so.

The dissatisfied users are not interested in who do enjoy the game and it appears as if they wanted everyone to feel the same as them. Should accept that there are people who enjoy the game and do not need to be disclosed any alleged hidden truth.

pugyourself

Betahkiin wrote: »

pugyourself wrote: »

Betahkiin wrote: »

pugyourself wrote: »

I disagree with that idea. People need to be able to communicate with ZOS in a transparent way. And other users need to see when threads get closed or disappeared. That won't happen in a buried sub forum.

I enjoy your posts, but if we are being honest, most of them belong in the Community Creations forum. But I'm guessing you post here so people have the opportunity to see them. And I'm totally ok with that because I like your stuff and wouldn't see it in its proper subforum.

I don't think others should be denied a voice, especially when they are raising valid issues with the company and/or community.

Edited for spelling

What I propose does not deny the voice of anyone besides the forum would be accessible to everyone, would not be covered or hidden.

Constructive ideas for over one disagrees do not poison the atmosphere of negativity and often of disrespect or insinuations that lack sufficient support.

Sharing contents and general ideas is not the same to denigrate people in their offices or functions, make apocalyptic predictions, encourage mockery and discontent.

If I walk into a bar and hear people talking politely to what not interests me I can stay in place without problems, if what I hear is constant teasing, yelling, insults, threats, slurs, I get up and I'll talk to the manager who kindly send out who tries to disturb the peace of others in a common place.

One theme allows the coexistence, the other seeks ruin.

I think you'd see less frustration if ZOS would simply be honest with its players and adhere to ethical and well-accepted business practices (like allowing opt-outs from spam). I have nice things to say about the game but I think what you are witnessing right now is massive frustration from users about the way they've been treated. This weekend's spam and subsequent insulting official reply from ZOS really hurt a lot of users.

So I think it's right that the forums are filled with topics addressing this in the last 48 hours. Instead of burying the threads in a subforum, ZOS would be better to address the issues and make amends to its subscribers for treating them with such disrespect.

I'm someone who never thought I'd feel this way because I truly love the game. But if the issues that people are raising with such passion in the last 48 hours aren't addressed soon and well, I fear the game I love will be gone sooner than later. And that would be a shame.

Edited for spelling

The problem is that the cost of this fight between dissatisfied users and ZOS are paying many users who currently enjoy the game and want to continue doing so.

The dissatisfied users are not interested in who do enjoy the game and it appears as if they wanted everyone to feel the same as them. Should accept that there are people who enjoy the game and do not need to be disclosed any alleged hidden truth.

Everyone here enjoys the game or they wouldn't be here. It is precisely BECAUSE we enjoy the game that we are so passionate about not seeing it ruined by spam and less-than-honest business practices.

To be devil's advocate, would you be happy if every piece of ESO artwork you produce had to include Saturday's spam message across the top?

Before you snicker, for many gamers, gameplay itself IS their art. Would you be upset if your expression had to include a banner ad? Because that's how I feel.

WhitePawPrints

Whoops. Basically what @pugyoruself said.

Betahkiin wrote: »

The problem is that the cost of this fight between dissatisfied users and ZOS are paying many users who currently enjoy the game and want to continue doing so.

The dissatisfied users are not interested in who do enjoy the game and it appears as if they wanted everyone to feel the same as them. Should accept that there are people who enjoy the game and do not need to be disclosed any alleged hidden truth.

Everyone here is here because we want to enjoy the game. Many players do enjoy the game, many players want to improve the game, and even more a lot of players are dissatisfied with Zenimax' actions. The actions and lack of action of Zenimax has caused a significant amount of distrust between the company and the player base.

Players want to keep improving the game, so they express their concern. This is as such in the case of the advertisement that appeared over the weekend.

Betahkiin

pugyourself wrote: »

Betahkiin wrote: »

Mumnoch wrote: »

This game doesn't want transparency...where in the world did you get that idea?!


All of us that have reduced our play time to almost nill because of the Sorc issues, the prudish armor design's, and Zenimax's wasted resources to bring us things we didn't ask for instead of any of the things we have asked for would make it not in Zenimax's best interest to create a forum where we could freely speak the truth and other user's could quickly sum up the state of the game.

Better that they continue the way things are by deleting/silencing/ignoring negative reviews while praising people who praise them. They do it on this forum and they do it on the SubReddit ESO forum. This game is full of disappoint.

The contributions of complaints exist today in the general forum and plug a lot of interesting and positive community issues. Having an exclusive section frees the general forum to have a healthier exchange between users without being harassed by the constant repetition of the same type of complaints which sometimes reaches result in spamm.

Most claims nothing new, are only individual complaints of personal experience about known issues throughout the community, not give any new and not give any solution.

This is because ZOS is choosing to ignore the issues. Or worse, tell an "untruth" about the issue. The official response about the spam ads was that ZOS had no ability to send in-game emails.

So let me ask you, have you ever received an in-game email from ZOS? Because I sure have.

If these issues were being resolved in a way that showed a modicum of respect for subscribers and players, you'd see these posts diminish significantly in frequency and improve significantly in tone and demeanor.

You can only poke even the nicest dog with a stick so many times...

And you can not do it in a specific forum?

You need the attention from users like me, that are not interested in issues like this?

You need to force me to see your spamm claims to be effective?

I do not think so.

We are in 2015, news flow like water in a river, i do not need a permanent spamm to know about issues in game, and ZOS neither.

I only seek respect for users that do not want to be used as instruments for a specific cause, if I like the cause I join them but by my own will.

WhitePawPrints

Betahkiin wrote: »

And you can not do it in a specific forum?

You need the attention from users like me, that are not interested in issues like this?

You need to force me to see your spamm claims to be effective?

I do not think so.

We are in 2015, news flow like water in a river, i do not need a permanent spamm to know about issues in game, and ZOS neither.

I only seek respect for users that do not want to be used as instruments for a specific cause, if I like the cause I join them but by my own will.

Simply, ignore the threads that are not of interest to you?

Its normal for threads to be spammed about a unfavorable change. If you want to keep threads you enjoy alive, then save them so that you can return to them once they fall off the first page.

pugyourself

Betahkiin wrote: »

pugyourself wrote: »

Betahkiin wrote: »

Mumnoch wrote: »

This game doesn't want transparency...where in the world did you get that idea?!


All of us that have reduced our play time to almost nill because of the Sorc issues, the prudish armor design's, and Zenimax's wasted resources to bring us things we didn't ask for instead of any of the things we have asked for would make it not in Zenimax's best interest to create a forum where we could freely speak the truth and other user's could quickly sum up the state of the game.

Better that they continue the way things are by deleting/silencing/ignoring negative reviews while praising people who praise them. They do it on this forum and they do it on the SubReddit ESO forum. This game is full of disappoint.

The contributions of complaints exist today in the general forum and plug a lot of interesting and positive community issues. Having an exclusive section frees the general forum to have a healthier exchange between users without being harassed by the constant repetition of the same type of complaints which sometimes reaches result in spamm.

Most claims nothing new, are only individual complaints of personal experience about known issues throughout the community, not give any new and not give any solution.

This is because ZOS is choosing to ignore the issues. Or worse, tell an "untruth" about the issue. The official response about the spam ads was that ZOS had no ability to send in-game emails.

So let me ask you, have you ever received an in-game email from ZOS? Because I sure have.

If these issues were being resolved in a way that showed a modicum of respect for subscribers and players, you'd see these posts diminish significantly in frequency and improve significantly in tone and demeanor.

You can only poke even the nicest dog with a stick so many times...

And you can not do it in a specific forum?

You need the attention from users like me, that are not interested in issues like this?

You need to force me to see your spamm claims to be effective?

I do not think so.

We are in 2015, news flow like water in a river, i do not need a permanent spamm to know about issues in game, and ZOS neither.

I only seek respect for users that do not want to be used as instruments for a specific cause, if I like the cause I join them but by my own will.

I don't need you to see it but I do need other users to see it and I need ZOS to see it. It's no different than any content. Simply because you don't want to see it, doesn't mean it belongs somewhere else. Just as someone who might not want to see your content doesn't mean that yours belongs somewhere else.

We are all individuals with unique concerns. Simply because one person or one group doesn't like what someone posts doesn't mean it belongs somewhere else. And if you are seeing a common thread in complaints here, there's a reason for it.

Betahkiin

pugyourself wrote: »

Betahkiin wrote: »

pugyourself wrote: »

Betahkiin wrote: »

pugyourself wrote: »

I disagree with that idea. People need to be able to communicate with ZOS in a transparent way. And other users need to see when threads get closed or disappeared. That won't happen in a buried sub forum.

I enjoy your posts, but if we are being honest, most of them belong in the Community Creations forum. But I'm guessing you post here so people have the opportunity to see them. And I'm totally ok with that because I like your stuff and wouldn't see it in its proper subforum.

I don't think others should be denied a voice, especially when they are raising valid issues with the company and/or community.

Edited for spelling

What I propose does not deny the voice of anyone besides the forum would be accessible to everyone, would not be covered or hidden.

Constructive ideas for over one disagrees do not poison the atmosphere of negativity and often of disrespect or insinuations that lack sufficient support.

Sharing contents and general ideas is not the same to denigrate people in their offices or functions, make apocalyptic predictions, encourage mockery and discontent.

If I walk into a bar and hear people talking politely to what not interests me I can stay in place without problems, if what I hear is constant teasing, yelling, insults, threats, slurs, I get up and I'll talk to the manager who kindly send out who tries to disturb the peace of others in a common place.

One theme allows the coexistence, the other seeks ruin.

I think you'd see less frustration if ZOS would simply be honest with its players and adhere to ethical and well-accepted business practices (like allowing opt-outs from spam). I have nice things to say about the game but I think what you are witnessing right now is massive frustration from users about the way they've been treated. This weekend's spam and subsequent insulting official reply from ZOS really hurt a lot of users.

So I think it's right that the forums are filled with topics addressing this in the last 48 hours. Instead of burying the threads in a subforum, ZOS would be better to address the issues and make amends to its subscribers for treating them with such disrespect.

I'm someone who never thought I'd feel this way because I truly love the game. But if the issues that people are raising with such passion in the last 48 hours aren't addressed soon and well, I fear the game I love will be gone sooner than later. And that would be a shame.

Edited for spelling

The problem is that the cost of this fight between dissatisfied users and ZOS are paying many users who currently enjoy the game and want to continue doing so.

The dissatisfied users are not interested in who do enjoy the game and it appears as if they wanted everyone to feel the same as them. Should accept that there are people who enjoy the game and do not need to be disclosed any alleged hidden truth.

Everyone here enjoys the game or they wouldn't be here. It is precisely BECAUSE we enjoy the game that we are so passionate about not seeing it ruined by spam and less-than-honest business practices.

To be devil's advocate, would you be happy if every piece of ESO artwork you produce had to include Saturday's spam message across the top?

Before you snicker, for many gamers, gameplay itself IS their art. Would you be upset if your expression had to include a banner ad? Because that's how I feel.

Then your way to complain about the spamm of ZOS, is making me spamm in the forum ..... You and many others make to other users as well as ZOS does to you .... Personally bother me more the spamm of complaint in the forum that the spamm of ZOS in the game.

pugyourself

Betahkiin wrote: »

pugyourself wrote: »

Betahkiin wrote: »

pugyourself wrote: »

Betahkiin wrote: »

pugyourself wrote: »

I disagree with that idea. People need to be able to communicate with ZOS in a transparent way. And other users need to see when threads get closed or disappeared. That won't happen in a buried sub forum.

I enjoy your posts, but if we are being honest, most of them belong in the Community Creations forum. But I'm guessing you post here so people have the opportunity to see them. And I'm totally ok with that because I like your stuff and wouldn't see it in its proper subforum.

I don't think others should be denied a voice, especially when they are raising valid issues with the company and/or community.

Edited for spelling

What I propose does not deny the voice of anyone besides the forum would be accessible to everyone, would not be covered or hidden.

Constructive ideas for over one disagrees do not poison the atmosphere of negativity and often of disrespect or insinuations that lack sufficient support.

Sharing contents and general ideas is not the same to denigrate people in their offices or functions, make apocalyptic predictions, encourage mockery and discontent.

If I walk into a bar and hear people talking politely to what not interests me I can stay in place without problems, if what I hear is constant teasing, yelling, insults, threats, slurs, I get up and I'll talk to the manager who kindly send out who tries to disturb the peace of others in a common place.

One theme allows the coexistence, the other seeks ruin.

I think you'd see less frustration if ZOS would simply be honest with its players and adhere to ethical and well-accepted business practices (like allowing opt-outs from spam). I have nice things to say about the game but I think what you are witnessing right now is massive frustration from users about the way they've been treated. This weekend's spam and subsequent insulting official reply from ZOS really hurt a lot of users.

So I think it's right that the forums are filled with topics addressing this in the last 48 hours. Instead of burying the threads in a subforum, ZOS would be better to address the issues and make amends to its subscribers for treating them with such disrespect.

I'm someone who never thought I'd feel this way because I truly love the game. But if the issues that people are raising with such passion in the last 48 hours aren't addressed soon and well, I fear the game I love will be gone sooner than later. And that would be a shame.

Edited for spelling

The problem is that the cost of this fight between dissatisfied users and ZOS are paying many users who currently enjoy the game and want to continue doing so.

The dissatisfied users are not interested in who do enjoy the game and it appears as if they wanted everyone to feel the same as them. Should accept that there are people who enjoy the game and do not need to be disclosed any alleged hidden truth.

Everyone here enjoys the game or they wouldn't be here. It is precisely BECAUSE we enjoy the game that we are so passionate about not seeing it ruined by spam and less-than-honest business practices.

To be devil's advocate, would you be happy if every piece of ESO artwork you produce had to include Saturday's spam message across the top?

Before you snicker, for many gamers, gameplay itself IS their art. Would you be upset if your expression had to include a banner ad? Because that's how I feel.

Then your way to complain about the spamm of ZOS, is making me spamm in the forum ..... You and many others make to other users as well as ZOS does to you .... Personally bother me more the spamm of complaint in the forum that the spamm of ZOS in the game.

It's not spam any more than any other person's posts are spam. Simply because you don't like it doesn't make it spam. It's an open forum.

Valymer

This is a general forum, people can post what they want as long as it falls within the guidelines set by ZOS. This isn't your personal forum where only things you are interested in are allowed.

Betahkiin

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Valymer wrote: »

This is a general forum, people can post what they want as long as it falls within the guidelines set by ZOS. This isn't your personal forum where only things you are interested in are allowed.

If you draw the wrong conclusion about something that I clarifies earlier, I assume you not read my contributions carefully. I make it clear that I do not have any problem about differences of opinion (which I accept) is abaut users who practice the same strategies that are complaining, disturb the peace, creating a bad atmosphere and resort to insults and groundless.

As you say, this is a general forum and people can post what they want within the guidelines, so I can post this topic.

Now, disrespect, difamation and insult to ZOS employees or the company I do not think so fall within the guidelines.

Repeat the same claim topics or closed ones neither.

newtinmpls

Betahkiin wrote: »

The forum needs a new segment dedicated to the claims and complaints from users. Currently these issues are placed in the general forum mingling with the rest of the contributions generating a bad environment for those who want to share other ideas.

This is why I ignore the whole idea of segments or topics and just keep hitting "recent"; then if title interests me, I read it.

If nothing comes up intriguing there, then I hit "participated".

One or the other usually brings me to some enjoyable conversation.

Fissh

So only happy feel good crap or RP conversation in visible forums. Bury the complaints. The things that are transparent and could help change the game to keep players? Silly silly silly.

You do know not everyone wants to RP in their games right?

Fissh

your the reason why every kid gets a trophy in booster sports

King Bozo

When I check the forums it appears to me half of the topics are complaints. I don't think the complainers would stick to one thread because they want the populated forum here. Complainers love attention and want attention from others. I am not saying there is not legit complaints but over half is the same topics flooding the forums. For example pvp is broken. Just browse how many topics you will see on that issue. This guy killed me and did 170000000 damage to me nerf it. How many nerf threads flooding the forums? I lost count. I don't think your idea is bad but in the end most complainers will come straight to the populated areas because they need attention.

Leeric

I like the idea, and it would be great...if ZOS paid attention to the complaints that are posted in GD. And some, take numerous topics to get an answer. They would get even less attention in their separate forum where fewer people comment and view posts.

Valymer

Betahkiin wrote: »

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Valymer wrote: »

This is a general forum, people can post what they want as long as it falls within the guidelines set by ZOS. This isn't your personal forum where only things you are interested in are allowed.

Now, disrespect, difamation and insult to ZOS employees or the company I do not think so fall within the guidelines.

Repeat the same claim topics or closed ones neither.

Yes you are right, they do not. ZOS is very heavily moderating the forums as we speak, deleting posts and closing threads in an attempt to remove all traces of those things.

They would have to do the same no matter what subforum these posts were in, though.

I_killed_Vivec

Erm... this is the forum for complaints.

If you don't like all the "Next abomination in the crown shop", "When will we get DLC?", "I can't play my Sorc/Sorcs are OP" threads then simply don't read them.

Conveniently, we are provided with titles so we can judge our level of interest before looking at the thread.

It's very different from overhearing conversations at a bar - you hear nothing unless you choose to click on a thread.

sagitter

Mumnoch wrote: »

This game doesn't want transparency...where in the world did you get that idea?!


All of us that have reduced our play time to almost nill because of the Sorc issues, the prudish armor design's, and Zenimax's wasted resources to bring us things we didn't ask for instead of any of the things we have asked for would make it not in Zenimax's best interest to create a forum where we could freely speak the truth and other user's could quickly sum up the state of the game.

Better that they continue the way things are by deleting/silencing/ignoring negative reviews while praising people who praise them. They do it on this forum and they do it on the SubReddit ESO forum. This game is full of disappoint.

MMO in general, expecially this game are full of frustrated people, and the icing on the cake is when you read threads like, "why can't we kill cats in game"...

fromtesonlineb16_ESO

pugyourself wrote: »

I disagree with that idea. People need to be able to communicate with ZOS in a transparent way. And other users need to see when threads get closed or disappeared. That won't happen in a buried sub forum.

If users CHOOSE not to visit sub-forums that's no reason not to have them!