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Any news on personal crafting?

timborggrenlarsenb16_ESO
I like to know if there should be a chance that i have missed some new of upcoming changes to crafting, with abilities add to the crafting line, for the ability to craft personal set armors and weapons?
Kind off why i am a crafter, so I can make some stuff that other don't likely have.
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  • newtinmpls
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    You can already craft personal set armors - that's why all my sorc characters are wearing seducer and all my sneaky characters are wearing Nights Silence....
    Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
    Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
    Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
    Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.
    ***
    Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
    House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
    Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis
  • timborggrenlarsenb16_ESO
    No its pre - set armors i am talking about personal set armor
    FFFRRREEEDDDOOOMMM!!!
    - Be Anyone.
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  • newtinmpls
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    Elaborate on this - I think you might have something here..
    Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
    Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
    Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
    Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.
    ***
    Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
    House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
    Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis
  • timborggrenlarsenb16_ESO
    my one set up off stats, procs and ablities
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    - Be Anyone.
    - Do Anything.
    - Go Anywhere.
  • newtinmpls
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    Seriously, you aren't telling me enough for me to know what you are talking about.

    give me a couple detailed and specific examples pretty please.
    Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
    Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
    Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
    Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.
    ***
    Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
    House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
    Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis
  • timborggrenlarsenb16_ESO
    I just want to make my own set of armor and eqp, from a to b. not just a pre - made set. Simple as that.
    FFFRRREEEDDDOOOMMM!!!
    - Be Anyone.
    - Do Anything.
    - Go Anywhere.
  • newtinmpls
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    You can make your own sets of armor and/or weapons, as soon as you 1-can find and get to the appropriate crafting stations, and 2-know enough traits on each item to craft 'with set bonus'.

    Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
    Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
    Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
    Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.
    ***
    Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
    House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
    Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis
  • timborggrenlarsenb16_ESO
    no i cant they are pre - made, i just make that the armor is already set to be. (I am maxed in all crafting , and have all trades, beside nirnoned)
    FFFRRREEEDDDOOOMMM!!!
    - Be Anyone.
    - Do Anything.
    - Go Anywhere.
  • xMovingTarget
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    People dont understand what you mean. Cant blame them :d


    No you cant create your own sets with bonuses you like. And its good that you cant. Balancing would be totally effed.
  • ShadowMage
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    No you cant create your own sets with bonuses you like. And its good that you cant. Balancing would be totally effed.
    Exactly.

    It would be great, though, if there were more options to customize the look of the armor. If we had several different...eh...styles?...for each racial style to choose from. For example, having several designs for each armor piece within each racial style to choose independently from the material and have the material only affect the quality (and maybe color) instead of the shape and overall look of the armor. Basically what's being asked in the multiple threads requesting the ability to use the lower level armor models with the higher level materials.
    PC / NA
    Thenathra - Khajiit Stormblade (Sorcerer - Dual-wield Swords/Lightning Staff)

    Several alts I've created, but haven't leveled much yet:
    Norryne - Dunmer Paladin (Templar - Two-hand Hammer/One-hand Hammer & Shield)
    Demerwei - Argonian Shadowscale (Nightblade - Dual-wield Axes/Dual-wield Daggers)
    Gohrnag - Orc Elementalist (Dragon Knight - Frost Staff/Lightning Staff)
    Kerasha - Redguard Mystic (Templar - Flame Staff/Restoration Staff)
    Alawael - Bosmer Assassin (Nightblade - Bow/Two-hand Battleaxe)
    Hjerlm the Quiet - Nord Dragonguard (Dragon Knight - One-hand Sword & Shield/Two-hand Greatsword)
  • I_killed_Vivec
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    People dont understand what you mean. Cant blame them :d


    No you cant create your own sets with bonuses you like. And its good that you cant. Balancing would be totally effed.

    It would be difficult to balance, but maybe not impossible.

    You could be given a selection of bonuses for 2, 3, 4, 5 pieces and mix and match your own, but selected from different categories (so you can't say "I'll have crit bonus, and crit bonus, and crit bonus and maybe some more crit bonus").

    They could even make it so you could combine attributes, so, for instance, 3 pieces of armour might give 1000 HP, or 400 HP plus 300 magica increase, or 300 health plus 250 magica plus 250 stamina. Just like in previous ES games you could put two enchantments on a piece of gear, using sliders to determine how much of each you can get.

    It would also provide an entry route to jewelry crafting (if we ever get it), where you could either have a bespoke piece of jewelry, or make it as part of a set.

    But again there would be a balancing problem. Just like there would be with spellcrafting.

    And we know from the experience of the introduction of CP how difficult balancing is, and how much it scares ZoS, which is why spellcrafting is on the back burner, along with VR removal, jewelry crafting and all DLC :(

  • xMovingTarget
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    People dont understand what you mean. Cant blame them :d


    No you cant create your own sets with bonuses you like. And its good that you cant. Balancing would be totally effed.

    It would be difficult to balance, but maybe not impossible.

    You could be given a selection of bonuses for 2, 3, 4, 5 pieces and mix and match your own, but selected from different categories (so you can't say "I'll have crit bonus, and crit bonus, and crit bonus and maybe some more crit bonus").

    They could even make it so you could combine attributes, so, for instance, 3 pieces of armour might give 1000 HP, or 400 HP plus 300 magica increase, or 300 health plus 250 magica plus 250 stamina. Just like in previous ES games you could put two enchantments on a piece of gear, using sliders to determine how much of each you can get.

    It would also provide an entry route to jewelry crafting (if we ever get it), where you could either have a bespoke piece of jewelry, or make it as part of a set.

    But again there would be a balancing problem. Just like there would be with spellcrafting.

    And we know from the experience of the introduction of CP how difficult balancing is, and how much it scares ZoS, which is why spellcrafting is on the back burner, along with VR removal, jewelry crafting and all DLC :(

    Yea, with a different approach as what we have now, it could be possible.

    But as of now ppl would just add spell damage everywhere. Or weapon damage. Restrictive choices on the otherhand could give you pretty stupid combinations and the premade sets would be better anyway.

    Its just hard to implement in a fairly balanced way.

    The issue about this is something skyrim as example doesnt have, PvP.
    Edited by xMovingTarget on April 16, 2015 12:06PM
  • fromtesonlineb16_ESO
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    People dont understand what you mean. Cant blame them :d


    No you cant create your own sets with bonuses you like. And its good that you cant. Balancing would be totally effed.

    It would be difficult to balance, but maybe not impossible.
    But why would anyone want them to bother? This is simply a min/maxer's wet dream and horrible from the game's PoV.

  • SilvyrNixe
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    Well it's not like you HAVE to stick with one whole set for a character. What I mean is that my Khajiit Sorc currently has 3/5 Torug's, 2/5 Seducer. 2/5 Magnus. So my spell damage is increased by 300+ points. You just have to find good combinations that work is all.
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  • Rune_Relic
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    People dont understand what you mean. Cant blame them :d


    No you cant create your own sets with bonuses you like. And its good that you cant. Balancing would be totally effed.

    It would be difficult to balance, but maybe not impossible.

    You could be given a selection of bonuses for 2, 3, 4, 5 pieces and mix and match your own, but selected from different categories (so you can't say "I'll have crit bonus, and crit bonus, and crit bonus and maybe some more crit bonus").

    They could even make it so you could combine attributes, so, for instance, 3 pieces of armour might give 1000 HP, or 400 HP plus 300 magica increase, or 300 health plus 250 magica plus 250 stamina. Just like in previous ES games you could put two enchantments on a piece of gear, using sliders to determine how much of each you can get.

    It would also provide an entry route to jewelry crafting (if we ever get it), where you could either have a bespoke piece of jewelry, or make it as part of a set.

    But again there would be a balancing problem. Just like there would be with spellcrafting.

    And we know from the experience of the introduction of CP how difficult balancing is, and how much it scares ZoS, which is why spellcrafting is on the back burner, along with VR removal, jewelry crafting and all DLC :(

    agreed....but you can balance it if you enforce negative effects to go with the positive effects.
    Ie
    weapon damage +X - armour rating -Y
    crit chance +X - dodge chance -Y
    Alas that depends on a system based on duality.
    Edited by Rune_Relic on April 16, 2015 4:55PM
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  • I_killed_Vivec
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    People dont understand what you mean. Cant blame them :d


    No you cant create your own sets with bonuses you like. And its good that you cant. Balancing would be totally effed.

    It would be difficult to balance, but maybe not impossible.
    But why would anyone want them to bother? This is simply a min/maxer's wet dream and horrible from the game's PoV.

    Several reasons:

    - You aren't happy with the current sets. Often the rewards for the fifth item aren't great... maybe you want the bonus for four items but the bonus for three isn't what you want...

    - If/when we have jewelry crafting then these items could be included in sets. It would be very useful to match jewelry with sets (Hunding's Rage pendant?).

    - You do want to spend time working out the best for your character. No reason why you shouldn't, particularly if it's your wet dream ;)

    - You want to be different :)
  • Robbmrp
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    The OP means that he wants his armor to be unique and not something that everyone else can craft. Everyone can craft the exact same things just by reading a book or researching x number of a traits. There's nothing unique about them other than being able to Dye it.

    I would love to have the ability to make a piece of armor with something unique on it that others can't craft. It would be nice if we could add in extra items for more buckles, belts, ropes, spikes etc. I've seen posts on this quite a while back about "Custom" crafting but the idea didn't take off.
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  • Rune_Relic
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    Robbmrp wrote: »
    The OP means that he wants his armor to be unique and not something that everyone else can craft. Everyone can craft the exact same things just by reading a book or researching x number of a traits. There's nothing unique about them other than being able to Dye it.

    I would love to have the ability to make a piece of armor with something unique on it that others can't craft. It would be nice if we could add in extra items for more buckles, belts, ropes, spikes etc. I've seen posts on this quite a while back about "Custom" crafting but the idea didn't take off.

    But how would you know (or the other person know) your armour is unique if we are just talking stats ?
    with abilities add to the crafting line

    Is the OP asking for cosmetic changes or power changes ?
    Edited by Rune_Relic on April 16, 2015 9:24PM
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    2 pieces: +weapon damage
    3 pieces: +weapon damage
    4 pieces: +weapon damage
    5 pieces: +weapon damage

    Probably a terrible idea.
    My Stam NB tho...
    Edited by eNumbra on April 16, 2015 9:41PM
  • Robbmrp
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    no i cant they are pre - made, i just make that the armor is already set to be. (I am maxed in all crafting , and have all trades, beside nirnoned)

    @Rune_Relic, I felt that was the case based on this comment the OP made. They are saying that every piece of armor created is from a pre-made template that Zenimax created. They as well as I want to be able to make something unique. Templates are fine for armor only if at some point we can change it. Changing the stat, color, trait on a pre-made piece of armor does nothing for it's appearance. If two people standing side by side are wearing the exact same items you can easily tell regardless what color they are.
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