Idea for Crown store - sell for crowns end game PVE/PVP sets

vovus69

Hi All,

One nice thing which would be good to have in crown store - sell all end game pvp/pve sets for crowns. It could be bind on pickup, I don't mind, but it will save me a lot of time of unpleasant activity. If I don't like PVP/PVE group stuff, I can buy exactly same set in store. It is not play to win (for those who will yell about that) because this set will be exact copy of what you can get in the game. It will just give me a convenience to play in a way I like with best sets available in game.
I would buy Desert Rose for example, right away. Perhaps some others too.

UrQuan

So... Remove a good part of the incentive to to a lot of the endgame stuff?

vovus69

remove the group content which I don't like. If it would be solo content - I am all for that. But there is no such thing...

LordSkyKnight

NO!


Go play the dang game!

UrQuan

Too bad. This isn't a solo game. I'm not opposed to having different endgame sets available to drop for some solo endgame content, but PVP sets are rewards for doing PVP, and group content-dropped sets are rewards for doing that group content. If you don't want to put the effort in to those types of content, then you don't get the rewards for them, and that's fine. I don't PVP so I don't get to get any of the PVP rewards or skills, and I'm fine with that. Why should you be entitled to get everything if you're not willing to put in the effort to earn it?

vovus69

UrQuan wrote: »

Too bad. This isn't a solo game. I'm not opposed to having different endgame sets available to drop for some solo endgame content, but PVP sets are rewards for doing PVP, and group content-dropped sets are rewards for doing that group content. If you don't want to put the effort in to those types of content, then you don't get the rewards for them, and that's fine. I don't PVP so I don't get to get any of the PVP rewards or skills, and I'm fine with that. Why should you be entitled to get everything if you're not willing to put in the effort to earn it?

Ok, let's make solo content and reward for it - I don't mind.

LordSkyKnight

If you want to play solo, go play Skyrim. This is an MMO. Make some friends.

Zorrashi

It is kinda pay to win because you are gaining a sustantial advantage by paying for it. It would be one thing if it was common armor that essentially most people can attain with a decent amount of game time, but this is end game armor sets--sets which only a fraction of the population can achieve by playing through difficult content.

TD5160_ESO

vovus69 wrote: »

It is not play to win

vovus69

Zorrashi wrote: »

It is kinda pay to win because you are gaining a huge advantage by paying for it. It would be one thing if it was common armor that essentially most people can attain with a decent amount of game time, but this is end game armor sets--sets which only a fraction of the population can achieve by playing through difficult content.

Well, I disagree. person in the group has an advantage wrt solo player because there is NO SOLO content with similar sets. If/when they will give us Murkmire with similar sets - that would be fine. Until then, this is just a even field thing.

UrQuan

Zorrashi wrote: »

It is kinda pay to win because you are gaining a sustantial advantage by paying for it. It would be one thing if it was common armor that essentially most people can attain with a decent amount of game time, but this is end game armor sets--sets which only a fraction of the population can achieve by playing through difficult content.

Well said. I have no problem with common weapons and armour being sold in the Crown Store - the ones that drop from random mobs. Sets that you really have to work hard to earn, though, should never be sold for cash.

ItsGlaive

vovus69 wrote: »

remove the group content which I don't like. If it would be solo content - I am all for that. But there is no such thing...

None of the solo stuff in this game requires these sets. The group stuff does. But as you don't like grouping I guess that's not a problem, you don't need the sets you'll never earn.

It's an mmo for crying out loud, ofc the best gear drops come from challenging group content.

vovus69

Xabien wrote: »

vovus69 wrote: »

remove the group content which I don't like. If it would be solo content - I am all for that. But there is no such thing...

None of the solo stuff in this game requires these sets. The group stuff does. But as you don't like grouping I guess that's not a problem, you don't need the sets you'll never earn.

It's an mmo for crying out loud, ofc the best gear drops come from challenging group content.

Let's make challenging solo content and make a sets for that. I am all for that

TD5160_ESO

vovus69 wrote: »

Xabien wrote: »

vovus69 wrote: »

remove the group content which I don't like. If it would be solo content - I am all for that. But there is no such thing...

None of the solo stuff in this game requires these sets. The group stuff does. But as you don't like grouping I guess that's not a problem, you don't need the sets you'll never earn.

It's an mmo for crying out loud, ofc the best gear drops come from challenging group content.

Let's make challenging solo content and make a sets for that. I am all for that

I'd actually be for that, but not buying endgame gear in the crown store. That is not good at all.

vovus69

TD5160_ESO wrote: »

vovus69 wrote: »

Xabien wrote: »

vovus69 wrote: »

remove the group content which I don't like. If it would be solo content - I am all for that. But there is no such thing...

None of the solo stuff in this game requires these sets. The group stuff does. But as you don't like grouping I guess that's not a problem, you don't need the sets you'll never earn.

It's an mmo for crying out loud, ofc the best gear drops come from challenging group content.

Let's make challenging solo content and make a sets for that. I am all for that

I'd actually be for that, but not buying endgame gear in the crown store. That is not good at all.

Yep, would be good, but as I see it - we will have end game sets in store sooner than they will release solo end game content Will see.

stabbykitteh

These are troll threads, yes? They have to be.

Vyle_Byte

I disagree on the idea of it being sold in the crown store. Crown store is for cosmetics, fun stuff. You want gear, you gotta earn that by either playing the content or paying someone who has played the content tons of gold at the guild store. If you put things like that in the Crown Store it creates a big problem. There must be some incentive to actually play the game. This is a buy to play system, not a pay to win system.

Besides, what do you need that end game gear for if you aren't doing endgame? Anything solo is way too cake to need that gear.

Don't get me wrong, I am all for new solo content. Matter of fact I am all for new group content (even though I don't play it) and I am all for new PVP content (even though I don't pvp). Choices, choices for everyone all around is good and will keep this game living for a long time. ZOS just needs to pull its head outta its arse, and fast.

But to put things like this in the crown store is not the answer.

DaveMoeDee

What does the OP think qualifies as 'pay to win' if making the best gear sets available to buy for cash is not p2w? Does the crown store need a "potion of automatic win" before it is p2w?

Based on that OP logic, being able to buy a VR14 character with whatever gear you want, max skill points, max in every skill, max alliance rank, and 3600 CP would not be pay to win, because it is no better than what you could do through playing.

TheTwistedRune

I completely agree with one of your posts. There should be challenging end-game solo-only content that offers comparable items to those found in group content. This should be earned not bought IMO though.

MMO's have changed, and the option to play solo is a growing part of the genre because more and more people want to play that way. The fact that you can play a large part of ESO solo is proof of this.

I'd like to see a restructuring of LOOT in general in ESO, but that's not relevant in this thread.

Sinthrax

I agree with the OP. I would like this option to save myself time. I should have this option as it hurts no one else. It only helps you get to end game and save time. It is no different than the exp potion which I will be using. It only helps you get somewhere that everyone else can still attain. No harm done. Just because I would buy gear off the store doesnt mean you cant still play and get it so I really have no advantage over you. Just like the exp potion it only helps me get to where I want faster...you can catch up as you see fit.

Sinthrax

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WraithAzraiel

No pay to win. If you're solo and you want group content gear, find a group and run the content. Lone Wolf Help specializes in doing exactly that.

ItsGlaive

Absolutely agree with many of the replies here. There shouldn't be any functional sets or weapons on the crown store ever.

UrQuan

WraithAzraiel wrote: »

This is my new favorite gif. I can think of many threads where it would come in handy.

G0ku

vovus69 wrote: »

LordSkyKnight wrote: »

If you want to play solo, go play Skyrim. This is an MMO. Make some friends.

go troll somewhere else

dito

Xendyn

stabbykitteh wrote: »

These are troll threads, yes? They have to be.

Yeh, aren't they special and oh so cute?

Amsel_McKay

The old season sets will be available in the crown store

DaveMoeDee

Sinthrax wrote: »

I agree with the OP. I would like this option to save myself time. I should have this option as it hurts no one else. It only helps you get to end game and save time. It is no different than the exp potion which I will be using. It only helps you get somewhere that everyone else can still attain. No harm done. Just because I would buy gear off the store doesnt mean you cant still play and get it so I really have no advantage over you. Just like the exp potion it only helps me get to where I want faster...you can catch up as you see fit.

XP potion is different. It helps you get to the end faster. Gear IS the end. And part of the value of gear is how rare it is and how hard it is to get.

This isn't a MOBA where everyone starts from the same point each matchup. It is an MMO where you develop a character and you use advantages competitively. People grind a lot for gear because they want a particular build for competitive gameplay. Sure, you can make a game without that mechanism, but that is not this game.

I don't think the game should try to appease those who want to have everything.

Shadesofkin

vovus69 wrote: »

Hi All,

One nice thing which would be good to have in crown store - sell all end game pvp/pve sets for crowns. It could be bind on pickup, I don't mind, but it will save me a lot of time of unpleasant activity. If I don't like PVP/PVE group stuff, I can buy exactly same set in store. It is not play to win (for those who will yell about that) because this set will be exact copy of what you can get in the game. It will just give me a convenience to play in a way I like with best sets available in game.
I would buy Desert Rose for example, right away. Perhaps some others too.

you are a bad person and you should feel bad.

LordSkyKnight

If you don't have the time to play the game and just want to buy the gear; what is the point in even playing?

Sinthrax

Sinthrax wrote: »

Vyle_Byte wrote: »

I Crown store is for cosmetics, fun stuff.



This part of your qoute is already going to be false. I don't see why we can't get gear in the store if the potions are coming. I say if we going to do it lets do it. I would buy it to save myself time.

LordSkyKnight wrote: »

If you don't have the time to play the game and just want to buy the gear; what is the point in even playing?

I say the same about exp potions but people will argue there is nothing wrong with them.