crafting writs -- a prescription for bankruptcy

painsworth01

Is there a logical reason for a master crafter to do crafting writs? If so, i'm missing the point. From a business point of view, it makes no sense. The rewards are far outweighed by the costs of doing business.

painsworth01

ok....i amend my question. I see some value in the provisioner writs ... getting recipes i need and an occasional good mat.

UrQuan

All of the consumables writs are well worth doing (especially the provisioning writ, which gives you back many times the materials you put into it).

Equipment writs are only worth doing if you happen to be sitting on some stacks of mats that you were otherwise just going to vendor, or if you can buy the mats for less than the gold reward you'll get from the writ.

Nestor

L9 I already know it takes a 100 stack to do one writ. What I was curious about was a leveling crafter and what impact it would have on them. I am doing an experiment with L1 Equipment Crafting Writs. i gave my untrained Alt stacks of 200 of Iron, Jute, Rawhide and Maple. I wanted to see how long it would take to use a stack up. Well, about 5 Crafting Writs at that level will use up 100 stack, or close to it. In return, she got 5 staves, 5 iron weapons, 5 pieces of clothing, 8 repair kits, 2 surveys, some gold* and some gems. The total Inspiration was about 5000 for each of the professions. Some of the things were ornate and would sell for 30 to 40 gold, some were intricate and would give some extra Inspiration (but at these levels, the bar barely moves even with Intricate item deconstruction)

So, even for a leveling crafter, there are better ways to learn equipment crafting. Basically, deconstruction of your loot will level you up quicker than crafting writs will. So, I am still not sure what the benefit to Equipment Crafting is. Unless you have some extra mats to use up.



*the character I am doing these on is VR6 so she gets 600 plus gold per writ, not sure what a low level character would get, 200? 100?

Victus

What's great about the Provisioner ones is that with the Skills that you make more than one of a beverage/food you craft, you can sit on finished products and oftentimes, just go turn in the writ as soon as you pick up the quest. So yes, very much a good ROI.

painsworth01

What's great about the Provisioner ones is that with the Skills that you make more than one of a beverage/food you craft, you can sit on finished products and oftentimes, just go turn in the writ as soon as you pick up the quest. So yes, very much a good ROI.

And that, Victus, is my favorite part of provisioner crafting writs! lol

UrQuan

Victus wrote: »

What's great about the Provisioner ones is that with the Skills that you make more than one of a beverage/food you craft, you can sit on finished products and oftentimes, just go turn in the writ as soon as you pick up the quest. So yes, very much a good ROI.

Exactly. It's the same (to a slightly lesser extent, because completing the writ also requires a number of raw mats) with alchemy writs. My main alchemist isn't VR yet, so he just lives in Malabal Tor, and every day he picks up a writ and immediately heads over across the way to turn it in.

UrQuan

Nestor wrote: »

*the character I am doing these on is VR6 so she gets 600 plus gold per writ, not sure what a low level character would get, 200? 100?

The lowest level alt I've ever done a writ on was (I think) level 12, and the gold reward was (I think) about 160ish.

Iluvrien

UrQuan wrote: »

The lowest level alt I've ever done a writ on was (I think) level 12, and the gold reward was (I think) about 160ish.

I would agree with this. I have a L8 that I will test this on, but 150-160 sounds about right to me.

I used to do every writ every day. These days it is mostly just the consumables ones. Sad really as I adore crafting.

Ysne58

I've only done provisioner and alchemy writs. I keep hearing that the others cost more to do than they are worth.

Tarukmockto

Ysne58 wrote: »

I've only done provisioner and alchemy writs. I keep hearing that the others cost more to do than they are worth.

If you have a good stash of Enchanting mats, it's easy to do and the payback is pretty good. The IP is also valuable if your aren't at 50 yet.

Iluvrien

Ysne58 wrote: »

I've only done provisioner and alchemy writs. I keep hearing that the others cost more to do than they are worth.

Enchanting writs are actually pretty good because they tend to be a good source of the upper tier Aspect runes.

Equipment writs aren't bad for levelling, but generally they do need the costs to be tweaked down a smidge.

geophonic_ESO

I`ll add my small survey on writs I had done lately:




and I´ll let the numbers speak for themselves. The only writ I didn´t monitor was Provisioning, that one in general yields a good reward for what you invest.

Xendyn

geophonic_ESO wrote: »

I`ll add my small survey on writs I had done lately:




and I´ll let the numbers speak for themselves. The only writ I didn´t monitor was Provisioning, that one in general yields a good reward for what you invest.

Very nice, keep it up. I'd like to see more data points because so far smithing isn't looking too good there.

golfer.dub17_ESO

Enchanter writs used to be worth doing but they seem nerfed lately.

Now all I ever get is an under-leveled green glyph and a few empty soul gems.

Woolenthreads

golfer.dub17_ESO wrote: »

Enchanter writs used to be worth doing but they seem nerfed lately.

Now all I ever get is an under-leveled green glyph and a few empty soul gems.

RNG hates you then. I get a Survey Writ for them on occasion, probably once every 4 to 6 times, which probably means they break even for me.

PaulD

Got a nirncrux just yesterday for doing the survey, and yes, that's why I do them.

Flaminir

Since 1.6 I've been doing them all pretty regularly... sometimes when I'm tired & can't be bothered to do something else.. othertimes I pick the quests up & then do them in the lobby of a trial while I'm waiting for others in the group to rock up...

And I have to say that the rewards have far exceeded the cost of doing them.

Worst case scenario you spend a stack of mats on the cloth/wood/metal writ... you get a rubbish reward consisting of 600 gold, an ornate item worth around 300 gold & usually a soul gem worth around 100.

That's 1k.... which is ballpark for the mats you've used.

But a lot of the time you then get yellow tempers, survey reports, the occasional nirncrux etc.

The consumables are even better... usually a very good return on those, & if you want purple mats for provisioning then they're basically essential.

Writs aren't going to make you bankrupt.... the opposite in fact!

Robbmrp

If mat prices had stayed around 600g for a stack then doing these would be a no-brainer. But with nightwood running over double that now for 100, they are a complete waste. The surveys RARELY drop a Nirncrux and you hardly get a gold mat from it. They still aren't worth doing IMO.

osaceeub17_ESO

I have been playing since the beginning of the game.

I have seen a marked drop in the gold mats you get from refining, not the promised increase. All the hirelings need to be fired! For the most part they are lazy and worthless. They usually bring me 5 raw mats and some trait/style stones, maybe a few lower level improvement mats. That is a waste of skill points, at least before the change i would get one gold mat every few days, now it is more like 3-4 a month from the hirelings.


I do not like what ESO has done to most of the crafting, I liked it better the way it was before the changes. The only writs really worth doing, to me, is the provisioning, as I have gotten recipes i need on my crafting toon.

I suggest if the hirelings are going to be this worthless then take them out and give us back our skill points. OR even better yet --I suggest ESO follow through on their promise to 'increase' the gold drops for refining and doing the writs. I kept a list of before the changes and after the changes and my gold mats drops did not increase they decreased. So ESO if you are listening, please fix this.

osacee
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