[Zenimax respond please] Veteran ranks

MAOofDC

domenthechief wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

domenthechief wrote: »

As a starter, more people will be able to play together in pledges, trials, PvP will actually be worth playing since I, as a VET2, won't get killed by a VET14 with best gear in two hits, but I will fight a level 50 character with my level 50 character.

The only difference will be our gear and build, but skill will matter the most. The odds would we pretty much balanced on both sides, not only on one as it is now.

End-game should never consist of more leveling. Let alone grinding. And that's what veterans ranks are. A long, annoying, painful grind, a cancer of this game's end-game. Sure, you can grind CPs, but that's your choice. They provide minor bonuses and don't limit player's progression in a way the veteran ranks do.

I would not count on everyone being just "level 50" when (if) Veteran Ranks are removed. Besides, VR14 is end game, not VR2, so it would not be fair to either the VR2 or the VR14 to suddenly make them both Level 50 with a collapsed itemization to go with it.

Unless they find something to do with the millions of extra experience points that a VR 14 has earned since Level 50, and Champion System does not count, then they should simply stick with Veteran Ranks and continue to expand them beyond 14 every so often.

Level 50 should be END GAME. Why am I FORCED to go through 12 utterly non-lore-friendly zones (or grind) so that I can enter lore-friendly Cyrodiil and actually be competent over there?

You should be fine in Cyrodil at level 50, because the game normalizes your stats to Vet 14. You MAY not have access to some skills or Morphs because you don't have the skill points yet but other than that you should have not problems. The Vet levels are more of a PvE thing and will hinder you in end-game PvE content.

Aeladiir

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Audigy

domenthechief wrote: »

I'm not sure why we shouldn't keep trying. Sorry for not being a passive observer.

The removal of the VR system wont happen any time soon (my guess). We need to factor in that having just 50 levels + some trials and dungeons wont cut it. There needs to be much more content before the current solo player "endgame" can be removed from the game.

While I understand that players not interested in char progression, but trials and leaderboards would love to see VR´s gone, it is the only content for Casuals that we have right now. Removing it would destroy ESO for said players.

Jando

I have another thread (one of many) on this same issue.

My simple solution is not to remove veteran ranks, but to lower the xp required to gain each rank equal the amount of xp needed to go from 49-50. Essentially, VR14 becomes level 63. No other changes to the game are required. It can probably be done in a hotfix. Problem solved. Should have been done months ago.

ItsGlaive

Would be great to get an update on this, but ZOS tend to ignore anything they either don't have a straight answer for, or an answer they don't think the community will like. I'll keep my fingers crossed but I won't hold my breath

ZOS_BradL

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