Veteren XP'ing is still slow as hell.

Daxt86

I had high hopes for the game after not having played for roughly 8 months, more or less due to the fact that while I like the game, the veteran rank grind was just too much to bear.

We've all heard how Veteran XP is supposedly increased and maybe it is but it still takes aaaaaaages to gain levels and worst of all, braindead mob grinding in a high populated camp with a good respawn rate is up to 4 times (4 times!) as fast as questing is, not to mention the fact that doing public- or real dungeons with your friends gives virtually no xp at all.

You're either forced to take the slow, yet less painful route of questing or the more efficient route of mindlessly grinding the same mobs over and over again.


I gotta say the XP on max level is still waaaay too slow and the fact that questing and dungeoning is so inferior to grinding is just mindbuggling.

ShadowDisciple

yea its slow...but why does it matter.

The plan is to clear all 3 alliances areas to reach the end game...dont look at it as vet lvl champ lvls normal lvls...

Just play the game..its awesome and all 3 pacts are awesome.

Veteran lvl is juust a word.. would you rather its called lvl 64 and that you need the same amount of xp??

Im enjoying my vet lvl playing...and im taking my time

Gorthax

why do you think they made xp pots and never made leveling easier lol HELLLLLLLOOOOOOO!!!!!

Septimus_Magna

With the enlightment system you get about 300k free XP each day if you use up all your enlightment.
If you dont want to get bored do quests instead of farming mobs, XP gain might be slower but at least you'll enjoy the game.

Horrum

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

With the enlightment system you get about 300k free XP each day if you use up all your enlightment.
If you dont want to get bored do quests instead of farming mobs, XP gain might be slower but at least you'll enjoy the game.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I am pretty sure this only applies to CP, not Vet XP.

Jaxsun

The problem is that the amount of XP needed to attain the next rank I still inexplicably different than the scaling from 1-49. It makes no sense and needs to change.

Avindra

Are most of the players that say its not too bad leveling vet ranks now because they mostly play solo except the occasional dungeon to get that skill point ?

My friends and I are all different levels, catching up to vet rank is fast but now we all have to catch up to vet 12+ to do any end game content. I finally got to vet 9 almost able to play with one of my friends but they others have all quit at vet 2 because it is far too slow.

Zheg

There are a few problems here that we're dealing with. I think the biggest is that we know they're being removed and we know ZOS already admitted they were a mistake, so it feels like we're wasting our time for nothing. Next, the majority of players used to be able to go from v1 to v14 EASILY in craglorn just killing bosses in a loop, and now that's no longer possible. Additionally, their formula for XP returns is truly out of whack - grinding regular mobs is leagues above the other methods, followed by boring solo questing the same content you did already on an alt, and then pvp and vet dungeons are just horrible XP returns. If vet levels aren't going away any time soon, fine, we can deal, but they need to fix their XP return formula so that vet dungeons, pvp, and questing are truly on par with what you'd get grinding regular mobs for hours on end. When you can spread out the vet grind across multiple activities that all reward your time appropriately, it's far less painful than having to spend a few weeks questing or a few weeks grinding mobs. Lastly, craglorn is entirely broken. I'm not even sure the quests and delves in both lower and upper can give you a full veteran rank much less 4 like it was intended.

I used to think ZOS just didn't realize XP rewards broke when they switched to the 1 million per level system (WB xp is significantly nerfed, dolmens not giving completion xp, vet dungeon xp heavily nerfed), and would be fixing them to bring them in line with how it used to be. Now I'm starting to be convinced that it's being done intentionally so people go buy XP pots... and that's a frightening thought because they're squandering a 'relaunch' by jading the new players that have to grind out something that once too me a weekend in craglorn to do.

Athas24

Jaxsun wrote: »

The problem is that the amount of XP needed to attain the next rank I still inexplicably different than the scaling from 1-49. It makes no sense and needs to change.

I don't think it needs a change. It's still easy to level a veteran level in 1-3 days TOPS if you really want to. I'm vet 7 on one toon and have not even finished Silver. I play tons of alts so I have a lot of diversified time but every time I decide "today I'll play this toon till I level" it's not hard to do so. It's going to be even easier with the XP potions to boot. Also, I personally think its WAY too easy to level at all the levels below Veteran. If anything I'd support the pacing at All levels to be more like the veteran level pacing. That way they're all the same like you want *Grins*

theweakminded

I disagree, wow grinding mobs can get a bet lvl in a few hours easy. Do the main quests for each zone and aoe grind. Its fine. If you like doing the quests, that's fine, just understand its slow going.

darthbelanb14_ESO

There are two threads on the front page that deal with Vet ranks and XP. I didn't even have to use the search function to find them. You can beat this dead horse just as effectively using one of those threads.

Ysne58

@ZOS_GaryA there is at least one other thread current on this issue.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/162675/i-cant-do-it-i-cant-level-anymore-please-remove-the-veteran-ranks-now-instead-of-waiting#latest

AbraXuSeXile

I had around 8 friends return to game, They all quit again because leveling VR is too long and a waste of time.

ZoS needs realise this is 2015 and a lot of people won't deal with a stupid slow system especially when most the people and there friends exploited some farmable boss in a dungeon.

I stood on top of a tree in fungal grotto to vr10, I farmed repeatable bosses in craglorn to vr12 and i did hircaines wolf farming till vr14.

Just put some repeatable crap ingame what doesnt give CP then people can choose if they wanna do it the long way or just get vr14 fast. We'll turn a blind eye.

BesMaster

Gorthax wrote: »

why do you think they made xp pots and never made leveling easier lol HELLLLLLLOOOOOOO!!!!!

Where you see XP pots in game fantaser?????

AbraXuSeXile

BesMaster wrote: »

Gorthax wrote: »

why do you think they made xp pots and never made leveling easier lol HELLLLLLLOOOOOOO!!!!!

Where you see XP pots in game fantaser?????

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/159182/screenshot-50-experience-booster-zos-can-we-get-a-confirmation-or-further-details/p1

Soon.

Jaxsun

Athas24 wrote: »

Jaxsun wrote: »

The problem is that the amount of XP needed to attain the next rank I still inexplicably different than the scaling from 1-49. It makes no sense and needs to change.

I don't think it needs a change. It's still easy to level a veteran level in 1-3 days TOPS if you really want to. I'm vet 7 on one toon and have not even finished Silver. I play tons of alts so I have a lot of diversified time but every time I decide "today I'll play this toon till I level" it's not hard to do so. It's going to be even easier with the XP potions to boot. Also, I personally think its WAY too easy to level at all the levels below Veteran. If anything I'd support the pacing at All levels to be more like the veteran level pacing. That way they're all the same like you want *Grins*

I have a v14 leveled the hard way, before the original Nerf. All the content is end game and the zones along the way offer very little that is intriguing outside the questline. So making it take as long as it does or longer makes no sense to me. Also, I have no desire to do the same quest content over to level an alt. I have a v6 that I quit spending any time on. I would like to pvp on different classes but its disgustingly undesirable to finish leveling an alt. I have also cancelled my sub because of the outstanding issues yet to be fixed. But hey, at least we can buy things from the crown store.....

Gorthax

BesMaster wrote: »

Gorthax wrote: »

why do you think they made xp pots and never made leveling easier lol HELLLLLLLOOOOOOO!!!!!

Where you see XP pots in game fantaser?????

where have you been, living under a rock? They ARE putting them in the game lol seriously....come on

Jaxsun

Ysne58 wrote: »

@ZOS_GaryA there is at least one other thread current on this issue.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/162675/i-cant-do-it-i-cant-level-anymore-please-remove-the-veteran-ranks-now-instead-of-waiting#latest

Yeah, and we need more threads so zos knows how fail the system currently is.

ZOS_UlyssesW

Hi, all.
We are closing this thread because there is already a thread on this topic. Keeping threads consolidated allows us to help players more efficiently and facilitates the visibility of different issues. We encourage you to head to that thread to continue your discussion.