Request: Priority queue for ESO+ members

Docmandu

Legedric wrote: »

Switching campaign is bull****, sorry. On EU we have Chillrend where DC is pretty much dead (so we would just feed AD and EP some AP), Azura or whatever it is called is pretty much the other way round with DC dominating and turning it completely blue as is Haderus.

So what are the options for us to enjoy half-balanced PvP? Exactly, staying on Thornblade and enjoying queue games...

Yeah I don't get why people take the entire map, that just kills all action. Nobody likes being gate camped by 200 players.

Wish this game has something like in DAoC where guilds had to pay an upkeep cost for holding keeps claimed. non claimed keeps didn't level up, so you needed to claim and claiming meant your guild had to pay an hourly bounty point cost, the higher you set the keep level, the more it cost.

This could help here if the keeps closest to the enemy starter zones were "more expensive" in upkeep. That way guilds couldn't hold on to the keeps for a long period of time and without claim, the keeps would be level 1, ie easy to retake.


Part of all this, is already in the game. The levelling is there, the claiming is there.. what is missing is the cost and the fact that keeps should only level when claimed.

Lava_Croft

Couldn't agree more. Let the froobs wait.

SC0TY999

ESO - Tamriel Unlimited Waiting Times, Edition

SHADOW2KK

TBH this game should be like how Premium on the Battlefield games should be, that you get priority in queue.

Never thought the day would come when I would actually defend Dice, whose games were with every single release, despite alpha/beta, loads of community feedback and being completely ignored and released a completely broken game as usual, which took the best part of a year to make good.

/facepalm

Sort the lag out ingame on PvP and PvE, PvP more so, as its a lot more dynamic, put the money in and give us the PvP experience you promised.

Some issues will be client related, but it will mostly be server side, your megaserver isnt all that mega, great idea, but it needs optimised.

Come on Zeni, if you want more people to sub, make it more worth their time and money, a bit extra xp and gold does not really cut it IMO,

Do eeet...naoowww....or as soon as:}

Bouvin

I agree actually.

If you're paying a monthly sub you should get priority for Queueing.

Might also see an uptick in Eso+ Subs if they do this.

Bouvin

Docmandu wrote: »

IxSTALKERxI wrote: »

This is slightly off topic but still relevant:

Those 150 players in queue in thornblade could go to a different campaign. This game needs a consistent and somewhat balanced population on all campaigns to make pvp a more enjoyable experience for everyone. So please, if you normally play on thornblade, try to mix it up a bit and try a different campaign and see how you go. You'll be doing the community a favour.

Would be nice if changing to a less populated campaign would be "free". As it is today, you pay a sizeable chunk of AP for it, which might hold some people back in doing so (that, and the fact that their guild / buddies are in thorn)

15k ap isn't that much actually. I can usually get that in an hour and I'm not that good.

RedTalon

Almost tempted to make an EP alt just to see what waiting times are really like since DC bearly has any on on the two servers I'm currently on.

WebBull

You choose to be a EP lemming. If you want to avoid the queue re-roll another alliance.

The_Death_Princess

Actually thats a solid idea. Right now, there is absolutely no reason to be a prime member. They little bonus gain right now is not worth 15 bucks a month, and the crown store is a joke. Havnt bought one thing yet. Not being rude about the crown store, but honestly, crown store wont be worth it if you dont care about pets, costumes, etc. unless they change.

At least PvP peeps would have a reason to maintain the membership.

Varicite

Seth_Black wrote: »

Agree
In the end WE'RE the ones who support game development the MOST.
We should have instant access to Cyrodiil by default.

Let F2P stand in lines!

Someone who doesn't sub and buys 2-3 things (not potions) a month on the cash shop supports the game more than you do.

Just sayin'.

Tripwyr

No

Jaerlach

Legedric wrote: »

gw2only1b14_ESO wrote: »

Am I the only one that will pvp on the other servers till I get in to the zergy one? I bite my tongue on the Ts channel and guild chat when I see the QQ on it But I think people like the attention of "im still 120 in que"
Yes to those that don't know you have your guest server and you have the "travel to a player server" I sit in no que I just wait for a Ping notification to Port me to the Zerg

As already stated by some others: This is no option for many EU players because Thornblade is the only campaign to have something like competative PvP. All the other campaigns are pretty much one sided buff campaigns (sad enough, I know). At least this was the status during the last couple of weeks.

So of course I always go to another campaign while waiting for Thirnblade to open up for me but this basicaly means I am waiting on an enemy spawn for someone to come out or the opposite way, run out of the door and get friendly greetings from 30+ opponents...

Well, you see this is more or less an option in theory but not in practice. During the last two days you could have some fun on Haderus, too due to many EU countries having holidays and Thornblade being locked from roughly 10am to 4am for most factions. But only time will tell if this scenario keeps up after everyone is back to school/work/whatever.

So fix it - back in December, there was one competitive campaign on the NA servers, plus a buff server for each faction.

Now, DC (lowest pop faction) and EP (2nd lowest, but most pvpers) have no buff server, and AD often doesn't have one either. Red and yellow contest every campaign.

All it took for this to happen was some guilds deciding to. Specifically, the few remaining DC pvp guilds got tired of losing all their progress every morning when EP was still locked and DC had one bar of players, so they gave up on Thornblade and started AP farming buff servers. The other factions followed suit to get some action.

The end result of this, honestly, is that most campaigns get a new emperor every day or two. EP and AD have enough players to contest 4 campaigns at once, and usually do. You can get a lot of AP and a lot of emperor passives by farming a buff server for a week. The buff server remaining on NA (AD, who have the highest pop and highest PVE pop interested in keeping one) keeps changing as the AD PVErs have to go find the lowest-action campaign and flip it back yellow. Its migrated twice already and it looks like its about to do so again.

Sylveria_Relden

/signed

I believe it should be a benefit of subscription as well- paying customers should always be the priority in any business.

Want to get in game faster? Pay for it.

If you're a "self-entitled scrub" who just doesn't want to pay to play this game, you can wait in line with the rest.

If you like the game... invest in it

In fact, I also think we need a designator on the forums that differentiates those who whine on the forums and aren't paying for the game, and those who are. Or just make the forums accessible to subscribers only again.

MisterBigglesworth

A token that lets you change your campaign for free (no AP cost) would be considered a "convenience item", correct? Sell them in the Crown Store!

Moreover, ZOS should give everyone a one-time free campaign switch. Lower the population caps enough to force about half the Thornblade population to spread out to the other campaigns. Buff campaigns should be a thing of the past.

I would also support removal of PvP buffs outside of Cyrodiil since it incentivized buff campaigns in the first place (and makes high-end PVE content more difficult to balance) but that's a whole other discussion.

Tintinabula

Isn't it like this on most every other game? I mean if cue times are gonna threaten their bread and butter clients, It only makes good sense to push us to the front of the line.

Legedric

MisterBigglesworth wrote: »

A token that lets you change your campaign for free (no AP cost) would be considered a "convenience item", correct? Sell them in the Crown Store!

That's actually a great idea and I would think about spending crowns for it.

bertenburnyb16_ESO

prime time EU Pact, all campains locked, Thron Q monstrosity of 100+, and when finally in, lagg lagg everywhere

yesterday we were sieging Glade with about 20 people (we were the only players there), after the outer was down, ... nothing, guards dont aggro, cant place siege, and after 10 min when blues showed up cant even fight em .... smurfs and bananas had meteorspambattle on the other side of the map apperantly and whole Cyro shuts down... but whel that for another topic

Varicite

Sylveria_Relden wrote: »

/signed

I believe it should be a benefit of subscription as well- paying customers should always be the priority in any business.

Want to get in game faster? Pay for it.

If you're a "self-entitled scrub" who just doesn't want to pay to play this game, you can wait in line with the rest.

If you like the game... invest in it

In fact, I also think we need a designator on the forums that differentiates those who whine on the forums and aren't paying for the game, and those who are. Or just make the forums accessible to subscribers only again.

Is there also going to be a designator for those who don't sub and STILL pay more money than you do to play the game via Crown Store?

Because this pretty much sounds like: I choose to support the game THIS way, so anybody who supports the game in any other way should be shafted.

That IS what you're saying, isn't it?

Sylveria_Relden

Varicite wrote: »

Sylveria_Relden wrote: »

/signed

I believe it should be a benefit of subscription as well- paying customers should always be the priority in any business.

Want to get in game faster? Pay for it.

If you're a "self-entitled scrub" who just doesn't want to pay to play this game, you can wait in line with the rest.

If you like the game... invest in it

In fact, I also think we need a designator on the forums that differentiates those who whine on the forums and aren't paying for the game, and those who are. Or just make the forums accessible to subscribers only again.

Is there also going to be a designator for those who don't sub and STILL pay more money than you do to play the game via Crown Store?

Because this pretty much sounds like: I choose to support the game THIS way, so anybody who supports the game in any other way should be shafted.

That IS what you're saying, isn't it?

*checks what I wrote* Nope, I don't see anything in there remotely close to what you just wrote- but...

If the shoe fits?

Varicite

Sylveria_Relden wrote: »

Varicite wrote: »

Sylveria_Relden wrote: »

/signed

I believe it should be a benefit of subscription as well- paying customers should always be the priority in any business.

Want to get in game faster? Pay for it.

If you're a "self-entitled scrub" who just doesn't want to pay to play this game, you can wait in line with the rest.

If you like the game... invest in it

In fact, I also think we need a designator on the forums that differentiates those who whine on the forums and aren't paying for the game, and those who are. Or just make the forums accessible to subscribers only again.

Is there also going to be a designator for those who don't sub and STILL pay more money than you do to play the game via Crown Store?

Because this pretty much sounds like: I choose to support the game THIS way, so anybody who supports the game in any other way should be shafted.

That IS what you're saying, isn't it?

*checks what I wrote* Nope, I don't see anything in there remotely close to what you just wrote- but...

If the shoe fits?

You are asking for a designator to separate you from what you have called "self-entited scrubs" and have clearly stated that you don't believe that people who aren't subscribing are investing in the game.

You have even said that they are somehow not "paying customers", because they have not chosen to pay YOUR way.

AND only subscribers can use the forums.

But no, that's not what you're saying. Gotcha.

You're absolutely right, if the shoe fits...

Zhoyzu

IxSTALKERxI wrote: »

iseko wrote: »

A lot of playerd are guild affiliated. Guild dictates the pvp server.

I agree. Some GM's should consider taking their guild to other campaigns to try them out.
Some well known guilds already left thornblade for chillrend. I feel as though chillrend has a very healthy balanced population at the moment because of it. It'd be great if Azura's and Haderus balanced out to.

i tried that once "quit the queue QQ and lag QQ and get in queue"

Sylveria_Relden

Varicite wrote: »

Sylveria_Relden wrote: »

Varicite wrote: »

Sylveria_Relden wrote: »

/signed

I believe it should be a benefit of subscription as well- paying customers should always be the priority in any business.

Want to get in game faster? Pay for it.

If you're a "self-entitled scrub" who just doesn't want to pay to play this game, you can wait in line with the rest.

If you like the game... invest in it

In fact, I also think we need a designator on the forums that differentiates those who whine on the forums and aren't paying for the game, and those who are. Or just make the forums accessible to subscribers only again.

Is there also going to be a designator for those who don't sub and STILL pay more money than you do to play the game via Crown Store?

Because this pretty much sounds like: I choose to support the game THIS way, so anybody who supports the game in any other way should be shafted.

That IS what you're saying, isn't it?

*checks what I wrote* Nope, I don't see anything in there remotely close to what you just wrote- but...

If the shoe fits?

You are asking for a designator to separate you from what you have called "self-entited scrubs" and have clearly stated that you don't believe that people who aren't subscribing are investing in the game.

You have even said that they are somehow not "paying customers", because they have not chosen to pay YOUR way.

AND only subscribers can use the forums.

But no, that's not what you're saying. Gotcha.

You're absolutely right, if the shoe fits...

Here's the "issue"... I'll spell it out for you- consistency

We (as players, subscribers, fans whatever you want to "label" this with) didn't cause the problem at hand- but we do have to deal with it, because unfortunately at the end of the day, we don't have the direct authority to make changes happen.

Your method (cash shop, investment in chunks, etc.) certainly passes cash from your hands to ZOS- but is it consistent? Does it help to maintain and sustain? Or does it just help to pay for the "extras" that come along which need to be dealt with? For that matter, the same argument could be made for subscriptions on a monthly basis... however, it's more likely that residual income is going to be more effective, no?

Now here's another issue- it's a simple one and warrants a "yes" or "no".

Do you agree that those who pay should be preferential to those who don't?

Because if you answer "yes" then we're more in agreement here than you know. It's a matter of how this becomes conveyed in changes- which neither of us are authorized to make. So how about making a counter or additive suggestion, and quit trying to sharpen your claws on those around you who are headed in the same direction? (food for thought)

Could I have been more "inclusive" with my statement? Sure I could. Was I? No, because I was speaking from my own personal experience with this game. Just because you don't agree with the way I worded something doesn't invalidate the point- anymore than I can invalidate yours for speaking from your own experience.

Varicite

My issue is the assumption that those who do not subscribe somehow pay less than you do, when this is pretty much pure speculation.

PS) I'm a subscriber and have been since Early Access, and paid for 2 accounts up until TU launched. I should get into Cyro twice as fast as the rest of you peasants. ; )

Sylveria_Relden

Varicite wrote: »

My issue is the assumption that those who do not subscribe somehow pay less than you do, when this is pretty much pure speculation.

PS) I'm a subscriber and have been since Early Access, and paid for 2 accounts up until TU launched. I should get into Cyro twice as fast as the rest of you peasants. ; )

Who are the "peasants" you speak of? And who's speculating now?

Do you know me? Do you know how long I've had my account? Did you know I was also playing pre-release, that I pre-ordered the game (Imperial)? Do you know how long I've even had my subscription?

By "self-entitled scrub" I'm referring to those who lounge around in game, who don't invest, who don't pay cash to play but yet think they have some sort of vested interest and that they're entitled to guide and direct changes based on such experience.

As I said- if the shoe fits... and if it doesn't, perhaps you need to re-evaluate your assumption.

Again- as I said, you can make a suggestion (additive or counter) but I haven't seen one yet.

Legedric

Well, why don't we focus on the topic again as I really don't care about who is calling someone a peasant and why. I also don't care about who was paying for whatever timeframe as I don't want to talk abou the past!

This is a thread about a benefit I (and also some others as it seems) would like to see in the future. If you decide to pay for ESO+ and that's the reason for you to start paying, great, surely much appreciated by ZOS. If you decide that's not enough for a sub, that's fine, too - I don't care

Sylveria_Relden

I'm in total agreement with moving forward here. My apologies for the attempted thread derailment by someone who took issue (for whatever reason) but I felt pretty compelled to respond, considering they called my post out specifically. (even if it's a troll)

That said, I think a lot of us are aligned when it comes to the belief that those who continue to pay should have preferred status over those who don't.

At this point, it's only a matter of how it gets implemented/what it looks like- which is the only real speculation here.

Cyrdemaceb17_ESO

Agree.
Add VIP queue for ESO+ members. The actual queue numbers on Thorn EU at evening peak times are hilarious. To wait severalhours! before entering do not qualify for the 15 bucks.

Also add a purchasable token on crown store for limited VIP Access. That way even F2P customers can support the game.

Sylveria_Relden

Cyrdemaceb17_ESO wrote: »

Agree.
Add VIP queue for ESO+ members. The actual queue numbers on Thorn EU at evening peak times are hilarious. To wait severalhours! before entering do not qualify for the 15 bucks.

Also add a purchasable token on crown store for limited VIP Access. That way even F2P customers can support the game.

^ this is an example of a constructive suggestion, rather than "argument for argument's sake".

Props to you, and I completely agree this would be an acceptable compromise to a monthly subscription for additional benefit- however, my question would be why not just subscribe instead of paying for a token? (money being money and all that) I suppose what I'm trying to say is- it's "6 of one, half dozen of another" so what's the difference?

That said, I also thought that the introduction of the Crown Store was supposed to have been limited to items which wouldn't have direct affect on gameplay (vanity items, etc.)- but ZOS has already somewhat broken their own rule by introducing "usables" such as potions, food, etc. so I suppose it really doesn't matter now what they bring in.

Legedric

Oh boy please don't get this to a "what is a convenient item and what not in crown store" discussion.

If they add a prioirity queue system to the sub I am also fine with adding a consumable item that will get you prioirity for like 10 times queueing up. I doubt this makes much sense but who knows.

A better proposal I've seen somewhere was to add tokens to change your campaign free of charge and immediately, so you don't have to wait for the cooldown and save the AP fee, but that's also another topic

GossiTheDog

+1 on this. Happy to pay for ESO Plus if it includes queue priority. Happens in Battlefield Premium membership.