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If you think the Sorc class is fine in PVE Zenimax PROVE it.
Mumnoch
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I'm tired of these stupid patches coming and going and the Sorc getting no attention while Templar, Nightblade, and Dragonknight get their weekly buff. Zenimax if you think the Sorc is strong enough to compete against the other classes in a PVE setting PROVE IT.
Let's see you post your numbers backing up this blatant disregard for this entire class. Let's see you post your video's SHOWING where Sorc's can reach 15k-18k DPS sustained. The Sorc class isn't a L2P issue like your Dev's are saying in live streams (this is downright insulting) it's ***-poor design of the class with lackluster abilities (like toggle pet's that take up 2x buttons per pet).
Prove to your community that the Sorc class doesn't need a update or UPDATE the class already.
Edited by Mumnoch on March 30, 2015 6:02PM Let's see you post your numbers backing up this blatant disregard for this entire class. Let's see you post your video's SHOWING where Sorc's can reach 15k-18k DPS sustained. The Sorc class isn't a L2P issue like your Dev's are saying in live streams (this is downright insulting) it's ***-poor design of the class with lackluster abilities (like toggle pet's that take up 2x buttons per pet).
Prove to your community that the Sorc class doesn't need a update or UPDATE the class already.
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Vanzen✭✭✭✭✭As sorc are already blatantly op and facerolling everyone in pvp, and other classes beeing already more than fed up with this nonsense; I dont see zeni doing anything else to improve sorc in pve as it would furthemore increase their power in pvp.
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Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'm tired of these stupid patches coming and going and the Sorc getting no attention while Nightblades get their weekly buff.
that is an unsubstantiated claim. when did that happen? when has it ever happened? not since i have been here have i ever seen that happen. and by the way (fun fact) sorcerers and dragonights are over powered and do more damage then nightblades and templars, AND your survivability is stronger, AND you have shield stacking cheats that zenimax allows.
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✭✭OP, better add PVE to your thread title. Edit button is up there next to the Title.Lag is ruinin' my 'mershun!
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Tapio75✭✭✭✭✭
✭I dont need any proof that my sorcerer is fun to play and feels ectremely powerful as well. Stop these allready and learn to play.
in any case.. Every game people complain about something being OP or weak comes mostly from
A:They dont now how to play their class
B: Dont know how to build viable class
C: Dont know how to counter attacks properly
Can not play as a team in PVP but try to solo kill class that needs a team to overcome. Edited by Tapio75 on March 30, 2015 5:46PM>>PC-EU Mostly PVE. Played since BETA<<4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I don't think zos has anyone that is an expert end game player "on staff" so I don't think a video will show up from them.
That being said, sorc isn't bad. Two of our best dps'rs are sorcs (one stam, one magicka (not pet) build). The caster is the one I prefer to have with us in arena. Not saying he couldn't kick butt with a different class build and maybe get better numbers (idk, might just be a great player in general) but I have no qualms about him being a sorc. My caster sorc kicks pretty good butt as well, though not as much as him. I don't hit 18K dps, but I also don't think people have an even metric for measuring dps because it can change greatly from one fight to the next. Hard for me to know if someone claiming to do 20K dps is being a bit more liberal in their measuring than I am.
The only big difference I've seen is in stamina DKs, they seem to be outpacing other classes and builds - probably nice having a DoT that scales off stamina.-- @xaraan --
nightblade: Xaraan • templar: Xaraan-dar • dragon-knight: Xaraanosaurus • necromancer: Xaraan-qa • warden: Xaraanodon • sorcerer: Xaraan-ra
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Mumnoch✭✭✭As sorc are already blatantly op and facerolling everyone in pvp, and other classes beeing already more than fed up with this nonsense; I dont see zeni doing anything else to improve sorc in pve as it would furthemore increase their power in pvp.
Sorry.
Just because you haven't figured out how to kill Sorc's in PVP does not justify the disparity between the classes in a PVE environment. There is 1 environment for PVP. There are 3 full Faction's for PVE. This game is based on PVE. The PVP side of it can die for all we care as long as the PVE side is balanced fairly across all the classes.
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Islyn✭✭✭✭✭
✭I'm tired of these stupid patches coming and going and the Sorc getting no attention while Templar, Nightblade, and Dragonknight get their weekly buff. Zenimax if you think the Sorc is strong enough to compete against the other classes in a PVE setting PROVE IT.
Let's see you post your numbers backing up this blatant disregard for this entire class. Let's see you post your video's SHOWING where Sorc's can reach 15k-18k DPS sustained. The Sorc class isn't a L2P issue like your Dev's are saying in live streams (this is downright insulting) it's ***-poor design of the class with lackluster abilities (like toggle pet's that take up 2x buttons per pet).
Prove to your community that the Sorc class doesn't need a update or UPDATE the class already.
I have cleared vcoa HM 3x with myself (templar) a dk tank and 2x sorcs.
Imo sorcs who play their class right kick Azz.
I do not think they need a nerf and sure buffs are always nice - but seeing these guys in action - I know sorcs can rock it.Member of the Old Guard - Closed Betas 20130 -
StaticWax✭✭✭✭I ALWAYS accentuate my posts WITH caps to let the people know I MEAN business.I wish nothing but joy for everyone.2 -
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✭Oh and that is 2 different groups of 2 sorcs as one dps switched out for another player - also a sorc.Member of the Old Guard - Closed Betas 20130 -
bg22✭✭✭✭✭
✭lol... Yeah bruh, Sorc is so hard. 0.o
Steps to roflstomping things/people as a sorc:
1. Use Overcharged Light Attack.
2. Pew Pew PewEdited by bg22 on March 30, 2015 5:54PM1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I just brought my Sorcerer out of retirement (basically unparked her from the crafting station she was at) and I have to say that she is quite effective in the game in PvE now. Prior to 1.5 she was having some issues completing content at higher levels, now it's now an issue.
Note she is magic based. I have a Pet bar and a Destro staff bar for her. She is much more effective with the Pet Bar. The only downside is the lack of heals.Edited by Nestor on March 30, 2015 5:51PMEnjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.
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Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭we have all seen the shield stacking where the sorcerers health bar has only a very very small sliver of red health and the entire rest of thier HP bar is from shield stacking that looks similar to this below.
((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((HP))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
by the time i get half way through your shield stacking you simply re-aply your shields stacking again in the middle of while im attacking you
how is that not overpowered and how is that not cheating?1 -
Roechacca✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭As sorc are already blatantly op and facerolling everyone in pvp, and other classes beeing already more than fed up with this nonsense; I dont see zeni doing anything else to improve sorc in pve as it would furthemore increase their power in pvp.
Sorry.
Just because you haven't figured out how to kill Sorc's in PVP does not justify the disparity between the classes in a PVE environment. There is 1 environment for PVP. There are 3 full Faction's for PVE. This game is based on PVE. The PVP side of it can die for all we care as long as the PVE side is balanced fairly across all the classes.
The game is based on ..
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bg22✭✭✭✭✭
✭As sorc are already blatantly op and facerolling everyone in pvp, and other classes beeing already more than fed up with this nonsense; I dont see zeni doing anything else to improve sorc in pve as it would furthemore increase their power in pvp.
Sorry.
Just because you haven't figured out how to kill Sorc's in PVP does not justify the disparity between the classes in a PVE environment. There is 1 environment for PVP. There are 3 full Faction's for PVE. This game is based on PVE. The PVP side of it can die for all we care as long as the PVE side is balanced fairly across all the classes.
lolololololol
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thelordoffelines✭✭✭✭✭Zenimax has been buffing sorc. Unfortunately they did stupid things like buff overload which only helps pvp sorcs where they have no problems.2
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thelordoffelines✭✭✭✭✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »we have all seen the shield stacking where the sorcerers health bar has only a very very small sliver of red health and the entire rest of thier HP bar is from shield stacking that looks similar to this below.
((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((HP))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
by the time i get half way through your shield stacking you simply re-aply your shields stacking again in the middle of while im attacking you
how is that not overpowered and how is that not cheating?
Not cheating because its a working as intended mechanic put in by zos.1 -
Mumnoch✭✭✭thelordoffelines wrote: »Zenimax has been buffing sorc. Unfortunately they did stupid things like buff overload which only helps pvp sorcs where they have no problems.
True, and it's always a horrible idea to "balance" a classes sustained DPS around Ultimates that can only be used when charged and are quickly depleted/used.
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bg22✭✭✭✭✭
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Yeah bruh, real men fight digital AI monsters.
All you pvp kiddies can get on my PvE level. I'll show you how to dominate the terribly dumb AI.
*Walks in a circle to avoid big red circles and spams Overcharged Light Attack and shield stacking my entire health bar just in case I get tired of holding in the "D" key* -While playing "Back To Tamriel on repeat".
Edited by bg22 on March 30, 2015 6:12PM0 -
Mumnoch✭✭✭
Yeah bruh, real men fight digital AI monsters.
All you pvp kiddies can get on my PvE level. I'll show you how to dominate the terribly dumb AI.
*Walks in a circle to avoid big red circles and spams Overcharged Light Attack and shield stacking my entire health bar just in case I get tired of holding in the "D" key* -While playing "Back To Tamriel on repeat".
Yeah bruh, real men fight digital AI monsters.
All you pvp kiddies can get on my PvE level. I'll show you how to dominate the terribly dumb AI.
*Walks in a circle to avoid big red circles and spams Overcharged Light Attack and shield stacking my entire health bar just in case I get tired of holding in the "D" key* -While playing "Back To Tamriel on repeat".
Do you always troll when you're mad? lol0
