How is the price of AP calculated ?
Beesting
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Hi,
Yesterday a friend of mine asked me to buy 5 pieces of the ravaging set for him to improve his build. I recently found out that the elite vendor sells them for 248.000 AP, no gamble needed.
I dont have not done much pvp and know a bit about selling and trading, but nothing about the true value of AP. So maybe you can help me understand.
I normally determine the price of something by it's usefullness, and rarity
Like the Vr12 purple warlock ring i bought after the droprate of the blue ones got nerfed, that is pretty rare and quite usefull, so i was happy to pay a few hunderd k gold for it. Now it is still rare, but pretty useless for my build so i would only pay 20k for it. This i understand.
Another factor is time spend trying to farm it. It took me 59 runs to get a Infused Valkyn Skoria helmet. Lets say a run takes an hour including grouping and stuff. I used half a stack of spellcrit/3 stat potions a run. The white and green drops paid for the repair costs.
So that helmet cost me 375 k in potions alone.
I guess anyone can make 10k an hour farming mobs and selling the drops, so if you were doing that naked and did not have repaircosts and could not think of anything more profitable to do, an hour of pve is worth 10k. So i can add 590 k to what trying to get the valkyn helmet cost me. Which brings it to 965 k
I know the drop is not garanteed, so if it was not BOP i would gladly pay 1 million for another one if i lost this one.
Lets not even start on the value of certain undaunted shoulders...
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Now to the topic of AP and the price of the pvp armor you can buy with it.
The armor and rings of the ravaging set take as much time and effort as walking to the vendor and clicking buy. There is no gamble like with the boxes.
The set is not rare, but it is pretty usefull.
I saw that the vendor sells lots of other stuff i picked up in guildstores in the past for like 9k gold (like the twin sisters stuff) These were probably unwanted pvp rewards, but i cannot be sure.
The Cyrodill's light rings used to go for 40 k a few weeks ago. Now people sell them for 120 k if they are cheeky and ruthless enough.
I remember the impulse spamming batwarming lag trains of pvp last summer, and suspect people that participated in this earned loads of AP just going around in circles taking keeps day in day out.
While doing this they never had to repair their armor, but they did consume large amounts of potions an hour.
I read a post of a dude complaining when he had to press 2 buttons to delete an email after taking his rewards out the email. This makes pvp farming probably the same to mob farming when it comes to selling off the white and green loot.
Since the removal of forward camps people spend more time horseriding online, and this does not give garanteed AP/hour as far as i noticed.
I guess people saved their AP for 1.6 so they could use their AP to buy boxes to get their own new VR14 armor sets. This makes sense.
But all of this still leaves me with the question, how do people calculate the price of AP to pve gold?
I hope you can help me decide if my friend should just go pvp and earn his own AP or if i should find someone to sell me the ravaging set for a fair price
Yesterday a friend of mine asked me to buy 5 pieces of the ravaging set for him to improve his build. I recently found out that the elite vendor sells them for 248.000 AP, no gamble needed.
I dont have not done much pvp and know a bit about selling and trading, but nothing about the true value of AP. So maybe you can help me understand.
I normally determine the price of something by it's usefullness, and rarity
Like the Vr12 purple warlock ring i bought after the droprate of the blue ones got nerfed, that is pretty rare and quite usefull, so i was happy to pay a few hunderd k gold for it. Now it is still rare, but pretty useless for my build so i would only pay 20k for it. This i understand.
Another factor is time spend trying to farm it. It took me 59 runs to get a Infused Valkyn Skoria helmet. Lets say a run takes an hour including grouping and stuff. I used half a stack of spellcrit/3 stat potions a run. The white and green drops paid for the repair costs.
So that helmet cost me 375 k in potions alone.
I guess anyone can make 10k an hour farming mobs and selling the drops, so if you were doing that naked and did not have repaircosts and could not think of anything more profitable to do, an hour of pve is worth 10k. So i can add 590 k to what trying to get the valkyn helmet cost me. Which brings it to 965 k
I know the drop is not garanteed, so if it was not BOP i would gladly pay 1 million for another one if i lost this one.
Lets not even start on the value of certain undaunted shoulders...
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Now to the topic of AP and the price of the pvp armor you can buy with it.
The armor and rings of the ravaging set take as much time and effort as walking to the vendor and clicking buy. There is no gamble like with the boxes.
The set is not rare, but it is pretty usefull.
I saw that the vendor sells lots of other stuff i picked up in guildstores in the past for like 9k gold (like the twin sisters stuff) These were probably unwanted pvp rewards, but i cannot be sure.
The Cyrodill's light rings used to go for 40 k a few weeks ago. Now people sell them for 120 k if they are cheeky and ruthless enough.
I remember the impulse spamming batwarming lag trains of pvp last summer, and suspect people that participated in this earned loads of AP just going around in circles taking keeps day in day out.
While doing this they never had to repair their armor, but they did consume large amounts of potions an hour.
I read a post of a dude complaining when he had to press 2 buttons to delete an email after taking his rewards out the email. This makes pvp farming probably the same to mob farming when it comes to selling off the white and green loot.
Since the removal of forward camps people spend more time horseriding online, and this does not give garanteed AP/hour as far as i noticed.
I guess people saved their AP for 1.6 so they could use their AP to buy boxes to get their own new VR14 armor sets. This makes sense.
But all of this still leaves me with the question, how do people calculate the price of AP to pve gold?
I hope you can help me decide if my friend should just go pvp and earn his own AP or if i should find someone to sell me the ravaging set for a fair price
Beesting, Bosmer Magica DK, AD EU, crafter
Slager, Dunmer Magica DK, DC EU, pvp
Farmer, Dunmer Magica DK, AD EU, trials build
Every major patch looks like the end of the world but somehow i just cannot stop playing.
Slager, Dunmer Magica DK, DC EU, pvp
Farmer, Dunmer Magica DK, AD EU, trials build
Every major patch looks like the end of the world but somehow i just cannot stop playing.
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Beesting✭✭✭✭I should have made this a question.Beesting, Bosmer Magica DK, AD EU, crafter
Slager, Dunmer Magica DK, DC EU, pvp
Farmer, Dunmer Magica DK, AD EU, trials build
Every major patch looks like the end of the world but somehow i just cannot stop playing.0 -
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✭✭✭✭I assume you are wanting to know the conversion factor from AP's to time to gold? Is that a correct statement?
If it is, I think you will find the value to vary widely. Consider hard core PvP'ers do not get gold directly from drops (but rather as 'rewards for the worthy' emails. In that sense, they earn AP's the same way you would earn gold. Since the ones that earn the most likely have no desire to grind for gold (PvE), it's an acceptable translation for them.
Ultimately, it comes down to what you are willing to pay for an item vs what someone is willing to sell it for. The only thing that really changes is the currency.Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...
Earn it.
IRL'ing for a while for assorted reasons, in forum, and in game.I am neither warm, nor fuzzy...
Probably has checkbox on Customer Service profile that say High Aggro, 99% immunity to BS0 -
Grapdjan✭✭✭✭It all really depends on how much the seller wants compared to how much the buyer wants to pay, not very helpful I know, but that's about the size of it.0
