[BUG] Templar Eclipse (and morphs) disables any action.

AriBoh

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom look at the lovely thread. Participate wont you?

technohic

darkknightfkb16_ESO wrote: »

Lets us pray to the beam that someone at @ZOS actually gets to read some Templar bug threads through the crown store fuss.

Eclipse was my favorite thing to use on Scale spammers so in a way; since it is buggy, I have been worshiping the beam a lot more. Even when it really doesn't call for it.

ArconSeptim

Zenimax why are you NOT FIXING nirnhoned, radiant destruction and Eclipse @ZOS

Phinix1

Thumpidy...

Bumpidy!

technohic

Is this our new focused charge or cloak? They are quick to answer on many things, like silver leash being bugged but for this?

Crickets

AriBoh

*casts breath of life on thread*

@ZOS_GinaBruno

technohic

darkknightfkb16_ESO wrote: »

*casts breath of life on thread*

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Didn't work. Did you cast eclipse recently?

AriBoh

I used it in hope that if we do get a reply it might reflect some of the lame excuses back.

technohic

They've been busy dropping other goodies but still hope this will be acknowledged and fixed quickly.

Cinbri

ArconSeptim wrote: »

Zenimax why are you NOT FIXING nirnhoned, radiant destruction and Eclipse @ZOS

Not true, they fixed Radiant Destruction. Now when cast it while eclipsed by mobs or other players your templar just stuck in unbreakable CC, you must press Esc, then CC break and hoping that it works and you won't be forced to relog.

technohic

And back UP it goes.

technohic

Guess we all gonna give up on this. I've moved on. Eclipse will be missed.

Phinix1

The sadness of Eclipse has blocked out the sun...

glak

darkknightfkb16_ESO wrote: »

I used it in hope that if we do get a reply it might reflect some of the lame excuses back.

They just break out of it and keep excusing.

dodgehopper_ESO

Eclipse has been a problem for a long time anyway. Its ridiculous how it is treated like a CC. If it came with accompanying damage I might almost accept it, but it does not. Its meant to be a counter to reflect, but given that it is easily broken free from, and that the other counters (shield reflect or dragonscale reflect) can be recast ad infinitum, it ensures that this power is more or less entirely worthless. Its really a shame as well, since Guards in PVP have a much better version of this ability, along with negate and heals. Its powers like this one, and the nightblade skills like agony, that makes me think they have intentionally made some skills for classes (and other skills) a waste of your skill bar.

Kallipsoe

Just ran into this issue in game today. This ability is almost worthless to begin with, now it was a total waist of two skills.

Skafsgaard

Yea, worthless skill is double worthless (?)

gg ZOS

Phinix1

This ability is STILL bugged...

I am somewhat amazed by the lack of a ZOS reply here.

Usually they are pretty quick to pick up on bug that render an entire ability unusable.

Phinix1

@ZOS_GinaBruno ... I am wondering if maybe I wasn't clear on how this bug is replicated and the guys took one look at it, cast the ability, didn't see a problem, and figured "eh, the guy is seeing things."

The bug with this ability that prevents you from taking any action ONLY happens when this ability is cast on an enemy AND that enemy uses a spell that it is able to block/absorb. As soon as it blocks/absorbs an ability, THEN you will be disabled until the effect ends.

Also, I have confirmed this IS happening with the base ability AND both morphs.

Hopefully that will clarify things and get the devs to pay more attention to this completely broken ability, which would otherwise be quite useful.

dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO

derpsticks wrote: »

I would love to be using explosive charge. I didn't invest the skill points into it since the patch since I figured it would still be broken. I ended up wanting to try it. Big mistake and a waste of two skill points.

At the very least I wish it were possible to weapon swap during the cooldown period.

From 1.6.5 patch notes:

Focused Charge
Slightly reduced the post-global cooldown for this ability, making it feel more responsive.

The skill is not responsive at all. Why even have the cooldown? Worst case, there is some build that could wreck if this was spammed over and over. In that case just make the skill cost more and more after each successive use. This skill could be so much more and would be prefect for PVP now that the aoe caps are fixed.

And there is also still the stuck in animation bug around seemed to fix in all other gap closers but this one.

Phinix1

Yet another patch and this ability-breaking bug is still not being addressed...

technohic

AlienDiplomat wrote: »

Yet another patch and this ability-breaking bug is still not being addressed...

C'mon guys. Seriously. They fixed that issue with Rite of Passage we didn't know we had. What more do you want? The more visible bugs that actually screw you over fixed? Let's be reasonable here.

vovus69

Are you sure that it is not addon effect? I am using total dark (eclispe morph) all the time against mages and I saw no problem with skills after I cast total dark. But I have no addons and playing from 1st person. Yesterday I killed one of the WBs in Malabal Tor using it (some cursed chest with bunch of drowned guys) and had no issues at all.

Phinix1

At this point I would settle for a "we're working on it" post. Call me old fashioned or selfish or whatever, but I sort of feel like this issue has been wished away to the corn field or something.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b5aW08ivHU

Phinix1

vovus69 wrote: »

Are you sure that it is not addon effect? I am using total dark (eclispe morph) all the time against mages and I saw no problem with skills after I cast total dark. But I have no addons and playing from 1st person. Yesterday I killed one of the WBs in Malabal Tor using it (some cursed chest with bunch of drowned guys) and had no issues at all.

Addons can't affect the use of abilities or the animations that play on your character.

For the bug to happen you must cast the ability, then the affected enemy must cast something that it blocks. Only when it blocks an enemy's ability will the bug occur. Maybe the enemy wasn't using abilities that the spell can block?

I just used it on the Dragon Mount boss in the Rift and it definitely bugged on here.

Maybe you didn't notice it because you were blocking? You CAN block when it happens, which is about the only thing you CAN do. You cannot light or heavy attack or use spells or abilities, until the spell expires.

vovus69

Well, this WB died from his own spells So yes, he cast a lot. And I am not blocking. At least not in PVE solo situations. I am blocking in group dungeons when I do them solo, but the rest is too easy to block. So, no I didn't block. It just works for me

Phinix1

vovus69 wrote: »

Well, this WB died from his own spells So yes, he cast a lot. And I am not blocking. At least not in PVE solo situations. I am blocking in group dungeons when I do them solo, but the rest is too easy to block. So, no I didn't block. It just works for me

What weapon were you using? I am starting to wonder if this is only preventing people with melee weapons equipped from light/heavy attacking or using stamina-based abilities.

technohic

AlienDiplomat wrote: »

vovus69 wrote: »

Well, this WB died from his own spells So yes, he cast a lot. And I am not blocking. At least not in PVE solo situations. I am blocking in group dungeons when I do them solo, but the rest is too easy to block. So, no I didn't block. It just works for me

What weapon were you using? I am starting to wonder if this is only preventing people with melee weapons equipped from light/heavy attacking or using stamina-based abilities.

When it happened to me, I was using Destro/Resto. Haven't tried it since.

peacewishes

Also having this problem ...please fix!

vovus69

I am templar/bow. I have a resto as a secondary weapon, but never used it in this fight. Never switched weapon - just use bow and templar spells. That's it. Used a potion once when killed secondary mage, but not for the main guy. Just cast spearshards, get him stunned, cast total dark, use bow abilities. when he will be back from dark, cast again spearshard, total dark , etc. rinse repeat. He lost ~25% of health from one total dark. So in 4-5 repeats he killed himself actually...