Mundus: Atronach vs Mage

Dreddnawt

So Ive been doing some testing on mundus benefits to finally decide which I want my DK caster to use. Up to now Ive actually swapped pretty often trying to get a feel for which i prefer, but i just cant say which is better. So I finally broke down and did some math. (Eww, right?) Here is what I found:

Atronach -
~ Boosts my regen by over 25% increase.
~ Magicka gained per tick (2 seconds) from regen during combat equates to about 20% of Mage max increase.
~ Five ticks (10 seconds) of Atronach regen is equivalent to the entire Mage bonus.
~ The longer the fight the more Atronach helps you over the Mage.

Mage -
~ Increases my max Magicka by roughly 8.5%.
~ Max magicka increase relates directly to spell damage, adding approximately 5% to spell damage, healing, and shields.
~ More effective spells translates to higher DPS and healing in every situation.
~ Shorter burst fights, such as those throughout PvE, benefit more from the initial magicka bonus.

In any drawn out fight, as in the important ones, Atronach is like having the additional magicka bonus from the Mage stone applied to you repeatedly every 10 seconds. For example: If the Mage stone grants you 1000 Magicka to your max, then Atronach grants 100 per second from regen. The benefit being that the Mage bonus only really applies at the start of any given fight where Atronach helps continuously throughout combat.

The Mage effect grants higher Damage, Healing, Shield, and Crit totals though you are effectively able to cast less times in any prolonged battle. So if my favorite spammable ability does 2000 aoe damage instantly, with the Mage it will do an extra 100 damage per target for the same amount of magicka.

Id like to hear from the community on which you think is best for a Magicka based caster build. Please explain what Mundus you prefer and why. Id especially appreciate advice from any end gamers who may have insight into things Ive missed here. TY in advance.

sicc

I've been using atronarch for this exact reason. Same reason I use drink instead of food.

eventide03b14a_ESO

Dreddnawt wrote: »

So Ive been doing some testing on mundus benefits to finally decide which I want my DK caster to use. Up to now Ive actually swapped pretty often trying to get a feel for which i prefer, but i just cant say which is better. So I finally broke down and did some math. (Eww, right?) Here is what I found:

Atronach -
~ Boosts my regen by over 25% increase.
~ Magicka gained per tick (2 seconds) from regen during combat equates to about 20% of Mage max increase.
~ Five ticks (10 seconds) of Atronach regen is equivalent to the entire Mage bonus.
~ The longer the fight the more Atronach helps you over the Mage.

Mage -
~ Increases my max Magicka by roughly 8.5%.
~ Max magicka increase relates directly to spell damage, adding approximately 5% to spell damage, healing, and shields.
~ More effective spells translates to higher DPS and healing in every situation.
~ Shorter burst fights, such as those throughout PvE, benefit more from the initial magicka bonus.

In any drawn out fight, as in the important ones, Atronach is like having the additional magicka bonus from the Mage stone applied to you repeatedly every 10 seconds. For example: If the Mage stone grants you 1000 Magicka to your max, then Atronach grants 100 per second from regen. The benefit being that the Mage bonus only really applies at the start of any given fight where Atronach helps continuously throughout combat.

The Mage effect grants higher Damage, Healing, Shield, and Crit totals though you are effectively able to cast less times in any prolonged battle. So if my favorite spammable ability does 2000 aoe damage instantly, with the Mage it will do an extra 100 damage per target for the same amount of magicka.

Id like to hear from the community on which you think is best for a Magicka based caster build. Please explain what Mundus you prefer and why. Id especially appreciate advice from any end gamers who may have insight into things Ive missed here. TY in advance.

Given that there are other ways to increase regen isn't the extra pool and damage more beneficial for DPS?

deepseamk20b14_ESO

I found that since I am stacking so much spell power and magicka I am lacking magicka regen. In PvP at least, you really need magicka regen to stay alive and continue to fight, so I went atronach and it does help. I still do a lot of damage but now I also have sustainability.

eventide03b14a_ESO

deepseamk20b14_ESO wrote: »

I found that since I am stacking so much spell power and magicka I am lacking magicka regen. In PvP at least, you really need magicka regen to stay alive and continue to fight, so I went atronach and it does help. I still do a lot of damage but now I also have sustainability.

Maybe it's different for different classes.

Sandmanninja

With no soft caps, I stack magicka regen (thus I use drinks, not food - blue food for health and magicka regen).
2nd I use anything that reduces SPELL COST.