Cast Time on Negate

Ezareth

Any other sorcs out there notice that there is now a cast time on Negate, very similar to the cast time on Lightning flood or other ground effect spells? When next you cast negate watch the ground animation and it will go from the large area of effect circle all the way to a small rapidly shrinking circle before it actually casts. This has been a real pain in both PvP and PvE for as I'm used to negate being a "Fire and Forget" ability.

This whole patch for whatever reason has the whole interface feeling slow and unresponsive compared to 1.5 and not just in Cyrodiil. I don't know if this is intentional, or latency related or what but I can imagine it will only get worse when 3/17 rolls around.

Teargrants

Gotta slow things down for console kiddies on controllers.

s7732425ub17_ESO

Those shrinking yellow circles are so annoying.

EskimoBrother

Ezareth wrote: »

Any other sorcs out there notice that there is now a cast time on Negate, very similar to the cast time on Lightning flood or other ground effect spells? When next you cast negate watch the ground animation and it will go from the large area of effect circle all the way to a small rapidly shrinking circle before it actually casts. This has been a real pain in both PvP and PvE for as I'm used to negate being a "Fire and Forget" ability.

This whole patch for whatever reason has the whole interface feeling slow and unresponsive compared to 1.5 and not just in Cyrodiil. I don't know if this is intentional, or latency related or what but I can imagine it will only get worse when 3/17 rolls around.

I noticed this, i was actually interrupted while casting negate and did not see it drop(even though my ult went back to 0)

Ezareth

Teargrants wrote: »

Gotta slow things down for console kiddies on controllers.

Well it's really putting a damper on my bunny hopping!

I'm just surprised more people aren't complaining.

Panda244

Ezareth wrote: »

Teargrants wrote: »

Gotta slow things down for console kiddies on controllers.

Well it's really putting a damper on my bunny hopping!

I'm just surprised more people aren't complaining.

The minority of the playerbase is Sorcs... Sorcs have to complain REALLY loud to get results... It makes me sad to see them get nerf after nerf

Teargrants

Panda244 wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

Teargrants wrote: »

Gotta slow things down for console kiddies on controllers.

Well it's really putting a damper on my bunny hopping!

I'm just surprised more people aren't complaining.

The minority of the playerbase is Sorcs... Sorcs have to complain REALLY loud to get results... It makes me sad to see them get nerf after nerf

Results like cast time added to clanfear.

Panda244

Teargrants wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

Teargrants wrote: »

Gotta slow things down for console kiddies on controllers.

Well it's really putting a damper on my bunny hopping!

I'm just surprised more people aren't complaining.

The minority of the playerbase is Sorcs... Sorcs have to complain REALLY loud to get results... It makes me sad to see them get nerf after nerf

Results like cast time added to clanfear.

That was needed, the heal you could get from insta casting and getting rid of the clannfear was ridonk... You can already stack shields and live forever... Why do you need a ridonk heal... Y u ridonk

Teargrants

You don't understand, that heal was to make up for the clanfear being fugly. Either make my clanfear look like a velociraptor or take away the cast time ZOS!

Pancake-Tragedy

Teargrants wrote: »

You don't understand, that heal was to make up for the clanfear being fugly. Either make my clanfear look like a velociraptor or take away the cast time ZOS!

Teargrants for SorcPrez 2016

Teargrants

Pancake-Tragedy wrote: »

Teargrants wrote: »

You don't understand, that heal was to make up for the clanfear being fugly. Either make my clanfear look like a velociraptor or take away the cast time ZOS!

Teargrants for SorcPrez 2016

"If you liked your 1.5 build, you can keep your build. If you liked your skills, you can keep your skills."

Yolokin_Swagonborn

@Ezareth did you also notice that...

• Bolt escape will no longer send you where your cursor is pointing but rather now bolts you where your character's face is pointing?
• Several Ultimates that used to be ground effect now fire wherever your cursor is pointing. Atronarc fires immediately, while you can still see the green circle to aim your negate. Same thing happened with templar nova.

Is there a thread for sorc ninja nerfs? There were a few in this patch.

Ezareth

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

@Ezareth did you also notice that...

• Bolt escape will no longer send you where your cursor is pointing but rather now bolts you where your character's face is pointing?
• Several Ultimates that used to be ground effect now fire wherever your cursor is pointing. Atronarc fires immediately, while you can still see the green circle to aim your negate. Same thing happened with templar nova.

Is there a thread for sorc ninja nerfs? There were a few in this patch.

I've always mouse-looked when turning so I was never aware you could Bolt escape in the direction of your cursor regardless.

I don't think you could ever bolt in the direction of your cursor though because I recall when you're rooted and can't turn you can only bolt forward in the direction you're facing.

DisgracefulMind

Ezareth wrote: »

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

@Ezareth did you also notice that...

• Bolt escape will no longer send you where your cursor is pointing but rather now bolts you where your character's face is pointing?
• Several Ultimates that used to be ground effect now fire wherever your cursor is pointing. Atronarc fires immediately, while you can still see the green circle to aim your negate. Same thing happened with templar nova.

Is there a thread for sorc ninja nerfs? There were a few in this patch.

I've always mouse-looked when turning so I was never aware you could Bolt escape in the direction of your cursor regardless.

I don't think you could ever bolt in the direction of your cursor though because I recall when you're rooted and can't turn you can only bolt forward in the direction you're facing.

With the new camera things they added, it really is different bolting around. I used to be able to swing may camera around and streak that way, but now i just streak where my toon's face points. Kinda annoying lol

Maulkin

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

@Ezareth did you also notice that...

• Bolt escape will no longer send you where your cursor is pointing but rather now bolts you where your character's face is pointing?
• Several Ultimates that used to be ground effect now fire wherever your cursor is pointing. Atronarc fires immediately, while you can still see the green circle to aim your negate. Same thing happened with templar nova.

Is there a thread for sorc ninja nerfs? There were a few in this patch.

I've always mouse-looked when turning so I was never aware you could Bolt escape in the direction of your cursor regardless.

I don't think you could ever bolt in the direction of your cursor though because I recall when you're rooted and can't turn you can only bolt forward in the direction you're facing.

With the new camera things they added, it really is different bolting around. I used to be able to swing may camera around and streak that way, but now i just streak where my toon's face points. Kinda annoying lol

It makes a huge difference for things like Talons.

Before you would turn the camera angle and Streak to the direction the camera was pointing, even if the body was facing a different way. Now you can only streak in the direction you are facing while rooted, from what I see.

Potenza

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

@Ezareth did you also notice that...

• Bolt escape will no longer send you where your cursor is pointing but rather now bolts you where your character's face is pointing?
• Several Ultimates that used to be ground effect now fire wherever your cursor is pointing. Atronarc fires immediately, while you can still see the green circle to aim your negate. Same thing happened with templar nova.

Is there a thread for sorc ninja nerfs? There were a few in this patch.

I've always mouse-looked when turning so I was never aware you could Bolt escape in the direction of your cursor regardless.

I don't think you could ever bolt in the direction of your cursor though because I recall when you're rooted and can't turn you can only bolt forward in the direction you're facing.

With the new camera things they added, it really is different bolting around. I used to be able to swing may camera around and streak that way, but now i just streak where my toon's face points. Kinda annoying lol

It makes a huge difference for things like Talons.

Before you would turn the camera angle and Streak to the direction the camera was pointing, even if the body was facing a different way. Now you can only streak in the direction you are facing while rooted, from what I see.

Yep, only in the direction your char is facing - this is one of those subtle nerfs that were not listed in the patch notes.

Droping negate now is just clumsy - nerf.

Huntler

It isn't just negate, its all ground based effects. This isn't solely a sorc problem unfortunately.

Derra

Well. I just want to say - how did you even notice? I´ve not specced negate in 1.6. Just not worth it imho

DezIsDead

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

@Ezareth did you also notice that...

• Bolt escape will no longer send you where your cursor is pointing but rather now bolts you where your character's face is pointing?
• Several Ultimates that used to be ground effect now fire wherever your cursor is pointing. Atronarc fires immediately, while you can still see the green circle to aim your negate. Same thing happened with templar nova.

Is there a thread for sorc ninja nerfs? There were a few in this patch.

I've always mouse-looked when turning so I was never aware you could Bolt escape in the direction of your cursor regardless.

I don't think you could ever bolt in the direction of your cursor though because I recall when you're rooted and can't turn you can only bolt forward in the direction you're facing.

With the new camera things they added, it really is different bolting around. I used to be able to swing may camera around and streak that way, but now i just streak where my toon's face points. Kinda annoying lol

It makes a huge difference for things like Talons.

Before you would turn the camera angle and Streak to the direction the camera was pointing, even if the body was facing a different way. Now you can only streak in the direction you are facing while rooted, from what I see.

it really does make talons and 2h crit charges a PITA to deal with. before i would streak away spin my camera around to face them and use streak to interrupt them before the could spam crit charge again. its a lot more difficult to do now. Im not complaining though, kinda accepted that sorc play has always been one of the more challenging classes, and its gotten even more challenging. Reason number 1 im ok with being a mediocre sorc, it means i would be above average at anything else xD.

Ezareth

Derra wrote: »

Well. I just want to say - how did you even notice? I´ve not specced negate in 1.6. Just not worth it imho

Negate is awesome in 1.6. The buffs it gives you are pretty nice and have saved my ass a couple of times now.

Teargrants

LOL, negate is stil powerful and useful. It's just not going to make your raid invincible with healing from all the stuff noobs would cast into it, nor is the game about who stacks the most negates in their group anymore.

Da Sandman

Did anyone else whiff a negate on the first day since since it immediately drops on the first command