Charge weapon and destroy are too close together.

omfgitsbatman

After many close calls, it finally happened to me. I destroyed my master resto staff while trying to charge it.

This was the scenario:
Vet DSA with the homies
In the middle of a round and realize my staff needs the enchantment charged - if you say you should have charged between rounds, then you haven't used a master resto staff recently it eats the charges super quickly (in my opinion way too quickly).
I try to charge my staff before the next wave comes.
I'm moving as quickly as I can because I know I don't have long.
I mean to click charge, but accidentally click destroy since they are literally right next to each other.
The prompt comes up, but I'm trying to hurry, so I mindlessly press 'E'
The weapon that I worked so hard to obtain is now gone forever.

I don't think it's too much to ask for these options to not be right next to each other.

TehMagnus

omfgitsbatman wrote: »

The prompt comes up, but I'm trying to hurry, so I mindlessly press 'E'

Well, the game did ask you...

But you're right, I almost did that a couple of times and I know some friends who have...

If we had a decent UI and we could lock items we don't want to deconstruct, destroy or sell, this wouldn't happen.

yodased

Nestor

Destroy should be moved to the bottom of the list, right below Mark as Junk. It would give a cushion. While it is hard to miss the Confirmation, with almost everything you do from a Right Click having a confirmation it is easy to be confused in the middle of things.

I have not tried this, but can you right click on a soul gem and choose to charge a weapon? At least you won't accidentally destroy something important if this way works.

MW2K

And out come the sanctimonious responses...

omfgitsbatman

I am not asking for the staff back. That's my fault for not paying close enough attention. I don't think it's unreasonable to ask for this change though. I have had many close calls before and know more than a few people that have done something similar. An easy change could prevent a lot of frustration.

yodased

I'm serious. I know that feels. It sucks balls.

omfgitsbatman

yodased wrote: »

I'm serious. I know that feels. It sucks balls.

This.

AlnilamE

Yes! It's also too close to the Repair option.

A friend destroyed their gloves when we were running vet Spindle. Luckily it was from a crafted set and a guildie was kind enough to hurry to the crafing station and them them a new pair.

Moving it to the bottom of the list sounds like a good idea. I'm going to submit /feedback when I'm in game.

nerevarine1138

For future reference, if you mouseover a weapon and hit R, it automatically opens the recharge dialogue so you can recharge the weapon without fear of doing something else.

drkeys143

Wow, I feel the pain, not a good thing to happen, and agree with you on this, perhaps a better separation of the options, or even an option to lock an item and prevent accidental destruction.

PeterRJG wrote: »

And out come the sanctimonious responses...

Not quite sure what that means though, I couldn't see any sanctimonious responses myself, I thought they were all either sympathetic or constructive

s7732425ub17_ESO

Is the destroy button on right click over a piece of equipped gear new? I never remember seeing it there before.

yodased

where the *** is that tooltip @ZOS_GinaBruno ? Tell me i can't ride my horse in combat and I should run away if I am outnumbered, but don't tell me I can hit R to recharge?

nerevarine1138

yodased wrote: »

where the *** is that tooltip @ZOS_GinaBruno ? Tell me i can't ride my horse in combat and I should run away if I am outnumbered, but don't tell me I can hit R to recharge?

It's always popped up at the bottom of the screen for me. When you mouseover any piece of equipment, a list of hotkeys pops up for potential actions.

omfgitsbatman

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

For future reference, if you mouseover a weapon and hit R, it automatically opens the recharge dialogue so you can recharge the weapon without fear of doing something else.

I had no idea. Thank you very much for this!

omfgitsbatman

That being said, I still think this needs to be addressed. It is still way too easy to make a mistake if you right click on the weapon instead of pressing r.
I'm sure there are many people that didn't know this was an option since there are at least 2 people with vet 14 toons that have talked on this post that didn't know about it...

Lovelyn

I've been playing since last august. It's all still very confusing to me.

derpsticks

I wish I could "hide banked items" while crafting by default.

omfgitsbatman

derpsticks wrote: »

I wish I could "hide banked items while crafting by default.

This would be a great change as well!

Merlin13KAGL

omfgitsbatman wrote: »

That being said, I still think this needs to be addressed. It is still way too easy to make a mistake if you right click on the weapon instead of pressing r.
I'm sure there are many people that didn't know this was an option since there are at least 2 people with vet 14 toons that have talked on this post that didn't know about it...

Make that three.

Hot keys are great for certain actions, but they can start to have dual (and often unintended) effects if you remap keys.

I'd rather take the extra awkward pause mid fight to ensure I'm clicking the right thing than take that chance (I don't even like taking the wrong potion by accident, let alone chance for destruction.

I would think a double click of the items in inventory could default to recharge via highest/lowest available soul gem.

I do agree that anything destructive should be at the bottom of the list (this goes for Kick from Group, Leave Guild, Ignore, Report, Block player, etc.)

Side note: Also, for the record, I think the Master's staves require charging more due to the double enchant.

omfgitsbatman

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Side note: Also, for the record, I think the Master's staves require charging more due to the double enchant.

You might be right. I still think the taste at which you need to charge these are way too fast, but that's another discussion completely. I only included it to help illustrate that with how often one has to charge these weapons, making the same mistake that I did is much easier.

starkerealm

Nestor wrote: »

Destroy should be moved to the bottom of the list, right below Mark as Junk. It would give a cushion. While it is hard to miss the Confirmation, with almost everything you do from a Right Click having a confirmation it is easy to be confused in the middle of things.

I have not tried this, but can you right click on a soul gem and choose to charge a weapon? At least you won't accidentally destroy something important if this way works.

Or, you know, press F to charge?

I'm actually a little surprised anyone was using the contextual menu to do this, since there's a hot key.

omfgitsbatman

It seems like many people did not know there was a hotkey. I for one did not.