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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/684716

Another HUGE XP grind nerf...

xherics
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Dear developers, can you please explain us why did you nerf again our grind positions in Craglorn?

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/155801/3-7-15-hotfixes-and-cyrodiil-bonuses

There is no point now to grind again and you force us to do quests, which gives almost 0 XP in comparison with time what questing consumes; and do not mention a main thing, that what should people do after they finish all the quests once? Daily repeatable quests (4-5) are not the solution, they gives also 0 XP...

Please, give us back the grind positions with increasing their XP to the 1.6.5 release amount. Every MMO has nice grind positions for people, who does not want to do quests, only in ESO we are losing all the found grind spots.

Thank you in advance for a nice reply.

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  • AshySamurai
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    Why people calling fixes as nerf?
    Make sweetrolls, not nerfs!
  • Nihil
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    To best achieve their goal they need to keep exp in line with their expected exp return. I think it is better to ask for more exp from other forms of playing rather then asking for more exp to grind, so you can get back to what you want to do.

    The grind in skyreach was also obviously going to be nerfed if you looked at exp per mob compared to how they altered the craglorn mobs.
    Edited by Nihil on March 8, 2015 8:05AM
  • Joy_Division
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    xherics wrote: »
    Dear developers, can you please explain us why did you nerf again our grind positions in Craglorn?

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/155801/3-7-15-hotfixes-and-cyrodiil-bonuses

    There is no point now to grind again and you force us to do quests, which gives almost 0 XP in comparison with time what questing consumes; and do not mention a main thing, that what should people do after they finish all the quests once? Daily repeatable quests (4-5) are not the solution, they gives also 0 XP...

    Please, give us back the grind positions with increasing their XP to the 1.6.5 release amount. Every MMO has nice grind positions for people, who does not want to do quests, only in ESO we are losing all the found grind spots.

    Thank you in advance for a nice reply.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

    I have 79 CPs while playing much of the time since 1.6 came out. People have 120+. That is why.
    Edited by Joy_Division on March 8, 2015 8:17AM
    Make Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.
  • xherics
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    The problem is, that people who have also Real Life can not afford to play daily 5 and more hours to achieve CP - these people are grinding... And from this point of view, these XP "fixes" are huge nerfes.
    Guild: HODOR - EU - Ebonheart Pact
    Char: Leliana fxn (Sorc) and Nuria fxn (DK)
    World first Sanctum Ophidia Time trial achievement unlock with my Sorcerer (v1.5.7)
    World second Sanctum Ophidia Hard Mode achievement unlock with my Sorcerer (v1.5.8)
    Pre-nerf Dragonstar Arena Hard Mode Conqueror with my Sorcerer

    "Sorcerer is for me a definition of the highest level of magician, what does not mean pets, but pure magic, pure spells.
    Pure magic from the heart, through the blood, to the last hairbreadth...
    Sorcerer means the highest magic killer with pure magic, not the weakest grandmamma's pet farm."

    11.02.2015 - Magicka Sorcerer RIP - What? Sorcerer and not using spells/magicka?
    19.02.2015 - Sorcerers, we have a new hope!
  • DeLindsay
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    Nihil wrote: »

    To best achieve their goal they need to keep exp in line with their expected exp return. I think it is better to ask for more exp from other forms of playing rather then asking for more exp to grind, so you can get back to what you want to do.

    The grind in skyreach was also obviously going to be nerfed if you looked at exp per mob compared to how they altered the craglorn mobs.
    We did, repeatedly including many Feedbacks given during the time 1.6 was on PTS, ZoS ignored it all.

  • Troneon
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    Dude, they can't allow you to gain CP too fast because people won't sub for 10% exp bonus and they won't buy exp potions in the crown store when they come out. :P
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  • cchin256b16_ESO
    I'm farming quite quickly spending about 2 hours a day to get 6-8 CP and then PvP.

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/155833/walkthroughs-for-the-dbd-rahniza-sword-delve-xp-run?new=1
    Edited by cchin256b16_ESO on March 8, 2015 9:21AM
  • Nihil
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    DeLindsay wrote: »
    Nihil wrote: »

    To best achieve their goal they need to keep exp in line with their expected exp return. I think it is better to ask for more exp from other forms of playing rather then asking for more exp to grind, so you can get back to what you want to do.

    The grind in skyreach was also obviously going to be nerfed if you looked at exp per mob compared to how they altered the craglorn mobs.
    We did, repeatedly including many Feedbacks given during the time 1.6 was on PTS, ZoS ignored it all.

    I know, and I agreed with those people, but it is still better for the OP to ask to fix other areas rather then asking for grind spots back.
  • Phinix1
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    xherics wrote: »
    The problem is, that people who have also Real Life can not afford to play daily 5 and more hours to achieve CP - these people are grinding... And from this point of view, these XP "fixes" are huge nerfes.

    Look at it this way. The human body has limits. Eventually, even the scariest OCD case will have to get back to a reasonably normal sleep schedule, or they will end up the latest statistic of another Chinese/Korean/ESO kid that dies of fatigue at an internet café for desperately grinding an imaginary advantage 24-7 for days at a time.

    So, either the grind imbalance will level out, or they will die of a heart attack, at which point their advantage will be meaningless.
  • Xexpo
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    Dear ZOS,
    No one will play when it sucks beyond diehard comprehension.
    Please stop for the love of god.
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