So ZOS, you figure out whats causing the horrible game breaking lag in PvP yet?

Xsorus

Its not stacking...Its not even really big battles..something is just killing your servers right now...at least on US Thornblade..

s7732425ub17_ESO

People seem to die much quicker in this patch. You would think this would decrease the amount of players in a single area and decrease the lag, but I guess not. Maybe removing the AOE caps is the issue, or maybe it's something else. I'm sure the folks at ZOS are as frustrated about this as we are.

Xsorus

I don't think its aoe caps, simply because no one is really stacking all that much for fear of Meteor.

Scamandros

1.6: The Deer Strike Back

WRX

Scamandros wrote: »

1.6: The Deer Strike Back

Hahah

I honestly have no clue what it is, but for the first time I actually have found cyrodiil unplayable. I played the through caltrops, 4 ulti bats, 4FPS, everything this game has thrown at me. But now, its just to much.

Knootewoot

ZoS; I have the solution

Remove all trees from Cyrodill and also the water. You can make uo a story about the lands dried up and with it the trees died etc bollocks.

But i am pretty sure it will remove the lag also. It was not the Deer or Bugs... its the trees.

Perichor

when these ten statements are made and you cant tell the difference between them, you know something is wrong

"maybe someday when hell freezes over"
"maybe someday when hell freezes over"
"maybe someday when hell freezes over"
"maybe someday when hell freezes over"
"maybe someday when hell freezes over"
"maybe someday when hell freezes over"
"maybe someday when lag in cyrodiil is fixed"
"maybe someday when hell freezes over"
"maybe someday when hell freezes over"
"maybe someday when hell freezes over"

Tankqull

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

Its not stacking...Its not even really big battles..something is just killing your servers right now...at least on US Thornblade..

on EU its the same once a faction reaches 3 popbars servers are starting to hickup with 1k++ pings

russb7b14_ESO

It's really not fun to pvp when weapon swap takes several seconds due to server lag. I even had trouble using doors due to lag and there were not even any battles near the keep I was in.

Sphinx2318

plz remove trees from cyrodiil... i believe that would do it

Panda244

Oh sorry guys, it was me, since launch I was sitting on the server cords, must of slowed down the connection some.. My bad. I'll just push this red button and everything will be fixed, mmk? Mmk.

Cody

Guess who I blame?:) His name starts with "C" and is very similar to, but is not, Columbia.

Can y'all guess who it is?

Panda244

Cody wrote: »

Guess who I blame?:) His name starts with "C" and is very similar to, but is not, Columbia.

Can y'all guess who it is?

OH OH OH! It's Columbus!

Cody

Panda244 wrote: »

Cody wrote: »

Guess who I blame?:) His name starts with "C" and is very similar to, but is not, Columbia.

Can y'all guess who it is?

OH OH OH! It's Columbus!

WRONG SIR. YOU HAVE FAILED SITHIS.

KBKB

Another pop cut inc!

Armitas

Its not just PvP. I get it farming cp in pve. Soon as I lay down a lot of damage at once I get lagged.

Panda244

Cody wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

Cody wrote: »

Guess who I blame?:) His name starts with "C" and is very similar to, but is not, Columbia.

Can y'all guess who it is?

OH OH OH! It's Columbus!

WRONG SIR. YOU HAVE FAILED SITHIS.

Ah well... Sithis isn't real and the only god I care about is Mephala, so we're all good here. Move along citizen.

Xsorus

Armitas wrote: »

Its not just PvP. I get it farming cp in pve. Soon as I lay down a lot of damage at once I get lagged.

What are you using for damage, that might be what's causing the lag.. Since I was pulling a stupid number of mobs farming earlier with no lag in pve.

RinaldoGandolphi

Their was lots of huge battles in chill, pretty much lag free. I noticed lots of big lag spikes in thorn last night, made me remember why I said dont go in their much anymore, the lag their makes it unplayable.

KBKB

Have we heard from ZOS they are aware/working on this issue? @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler

WRX

Armitas wrote: »

Its not just PvP. I get it farming cp in pve. Soon as I lay down a lot of damage at once I get lagged.

100% true. I pull 40-50 mobs at once and AoE them down solo. It lags pretty hard for a short amount of time. Now consider in the keep 40-50 people are AoEing everything too. My guess is this is the issue.

And dont even think of dropping a meteor. Thatd be a mistake.

rendolpheb16_ESO

16k ping in cyrodill without any zerg near.

They scale the numbers up and even the latency

QQ

Xsorus

WRX wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

Its not just PvP. I get it farming cp in pve. Soon as I lay down a lot of damage at once I get lagged.

100% true. I pull 40-50 mobs at once and AoE them down solo. It lags pretty hard for a short amount of time. Now consider in the keep 40-50 people are AoEing everything too. My guess is this is the issue.

And dont even think of dropping a meteor. Thatd be a mistake.

Where you pulling that many mobs at?

Workerdroid7

I'm playing in Blackwater Blade EU, and there is lag there too, it's not restricted to Thornblade. My first attack works just fine, but the follow up seems to take a second or two to decide if it's gonna fire off... and if my second attack is using an Ultimate forget it. I think I managed to get an Ult to work 4 or 5 times yesterday, out of about 20 attempts.

I'm playing as a NB and am not using AOE, but I don't know what people around me are using.

On a side note: apart from the lag and the woeful anti-infantry siege damage, I really like this patch and I do think most of the changes made will be good for the future of the game. But, the lag thing is a potential game-killer. It should be priority number 1, ZoS, forget everything else until it's fixed.

Draxys

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

Its not just PvP. I get it farming cp in pve. Soon as I lay down a lot of damage at once I get lagged.

100% true. I pull 40-50 mobs at once and AoE them down solo. It lags pretty hard for a short amount of time. Now consider in the keep 40-50 people are AoEing everything too. My guess is this is the issue.

And dont even think of dropping a meteor. Thatd be a mistake.

Where you pulling that many mobs at?

rawl kha bank

Armitas

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

Its not just PvP. I get it farming cp in pve. Soon as I lay down a lot of damage at once I get lagged.

What are you using for damage, that might be what's causing the lag.. Since I was pulling a stupid number of mobs farming earlier with no lag in pve.

Draw essence, talons, eruption now, elemental ring. Probably around 14 mobs at once.

stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO

Battle lag in Cyrodiil has been a major issue since the anti-cheat changes to the network protocol in some early patch. At launch, they had naive trust in the communication, in the sense that the server let the client determine all movements without checking whether it made sense. This was a stupid design decision that made speed hacks, teleporting bots and underground farming bots way too easy, and those were indeed rampant just after launch.

I honestly don't think the ZOS developers are capable of fixing this. It might even be technically impossible. The amount of computations that is now required on the server, and the extra network traffic that is generated between the clients and the server, is on a whole different level than what they anticipated when they made the promises of "massive battles with hundreds of players".

Xsorus

Armitas wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

Its not just PvP. I get it farming cp in pve. Soon as I lay down a lot of damage at once I get lagged.

What are you using for damage, that might be what's causing the lag.. Since I was pulling a stupid number of mobs farming earlier with no lag in pve.

Draw essence, talons, eruption now, elemental ring. Probably around 14 mobs at once.

i've pulled like 20+ mobs (can probably do more) and I don't lag using Eruption,Brawler/Fiery Breath Combo

I doubt its Draw Essence as not many Dks would be using it, I'll try Talons out and see if it is later...Elemental Ring might be the cause but its doubtful.

I can make a video to show ya... But ya..No lag..no ping increase, no FPS decrease...so not sure.

Rylana

Repentance causes a huge lag spike for some people.

Xsorus

Rylana wrote: »

Repentance causes a huge lag spike for some people.

Its it FPS lag or Server Lag?

Cause its not FPS lag that's causing the trouble, its huge Lag Spikes

Rylana

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Repentance causes a huge lag spike for some people.

Its it FPS lag or Server Lag?

Cause its not FPS lag that's causing the trouble, its huge Lag Spikes

Ping/Latency. I can see why, too. Repentance has one of the most complicated sounding computations it must make. It has to find people that are in range (check one), make sure they are dead (check 2) make sure they havent been pulled from before (check 3). sum the total of pulls (check 4), figure out how many friendlies are in range (check 5), apply buffs and bonuses to the heal (check 6), apply the heal (check 7), apply the "used" flag on the corpses (check 8)

So 8 scaling calculations ran simultaneously from one button press (and thats just the basics I could think of logically, it could be far more internally)