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Mixed Races

GanymedeDhem
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So I've always been torn about which race I want to play as my default, quintessential mage character. My go-to default character I have in all the games that I play. There are qualities I both love and really dislike about both the Breton and the Altmer racial features, both appearance-wise, bonus-wise and just in general. But combined I think they would create the perfectly balanced race I had in mind to play. I know this is a bit of a stretch and unlikely to ever happen, but I really imagine many people would appreciate such a feature where you could be a cross between two different races. There are already the full spectrum of races playing on each faction, so why shouldn't there be such an option. It could be an achieved bonus or perk bought through the crown store, I'd definitely be willing to dish out whatever efforts or money it would take to have such a bonus.

To me it seems logical and the customizations would be endless and fun. (And I'd also get to create my perfect cross-race sorcerer ^.^). I don't know if humans and Mer could be cross bred with Argonians or Khajiit , but I think it'd be a pretty fine site to see such characters roaming around the server!

I know most people's arguments would be to focus on the game mechanics right now and save these kind of 'fluff' ideas until a later time (to which I also get when bringing up my need for the game to start implementing character appearance alterations and name change options) but to that I say simply, bah!

What are your takes?
  • AngryNord
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    TES lore does not have mixed races - offspring inherits their mothers' race.
    Edited by AngryNord on March 2, 2015 8:53PM
  • cchin256b16_ESO
    AngryNord wrote: »
    TES lore does not have mixed races - offspring inherits their mothers' race.

    Everyone comes into this world at the ripe age of 20 as well don't forget that.
  • GanymedeDhem
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    That's good to know, but aren't Bretons themselves a mix of either Nedic and Aldmeri, or Atmoran and Aldmeri?
  • Xjcon
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    When you read the description of the racial bonuses they don't clearly show what they mean. I rolled Orc DK thinking the bonus to the heavy armor would work well as a tank. That bonus is simply to level heavy armor slightly faster. Later in the game when I figured out what the better races were I was stuck with this race and very little ambition to reroll another race (I have a level 7 Dark Elf DK).

    I and many others would pay a fee to change the race of these characters simply because i don't want to go back through all the areas to aquire all the things i currently have.
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  • Rosveen
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    That's good to know, but aren't Bretons themselves a mix of either Nedic and Aldmeri, or Atmoran and Aldmeri?
    They are. The offspring can inherit minor traits of the father - unusual eye color, affinity for a particular skill, things like that. This is how the Breton race came to be.

    Gidorick had a similar idea, here's his thread: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/153977/eso-character-offspring-a-phylogenetics-concept
  • Gidorick
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    Thanks @Rosveen!

    I think mixed races would be awesome on ESO!
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  • xMovingTarget
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    Dunmer stay pure! #DunmerMasterRace
  • Panda244
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    It's quite possible for "Mixed Races" to be in TESO, but, they would look exactly the same. Because the offspring is the Mother's Race, taking some traits from the Father, so let's say a black haired green eyed Nord knocked up a blonde Altmer chick with golden eyes, the child would be an Altmer, but could have black hair and green eyes, as well as some other physical traits of the father, such as the Nords' cold resist.

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  • theroyalestpythonnub18_ESO
    Or we could retcon the idea that the child has to be the mother's race altogether! :)

    I may get flack for this, but I've always hated that part of the lore. I think it's super limiting and contributes nothing to TES. Plus afaik Notes on Racial Phylogeny is the only source that claims this.
  • TheShadowScout
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    Personally I'd just say, make your character one race, but tweak the appereance to the other races end of the spectrum. Though it would be neat to have more options then what chargen gives... well, maybe with barbershop once that comes...

    Allowing people to mix racial boni opens the door for some annoying stat combinations... (you know which kind of people would lust for the option to pick and choose...) and likely be too much trouble for the developers to code regardless.
  • Panda244
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    Or we could retcon the idea that the child has to be the mother's race altogether! :)

    I may get flack for this, but I've always hated that part of the lore. I think it's super limiting and contributes nothing to TES. Plus afaik Notes on Racial Phylogeny is the only source that claims this.
    "Generally the offspring bear the racial traits of the mother, though some traces of the father's race may also be present...."

    Generally Definition: In general terms; without regard to particulars or exception, In most cases; usually.
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    This sort of thing in TES gets weird, dumb and gross very quickly. I vividly remember pausing to flinch while I was reading about Barenziah getting stabbed in the vagoo by a Khajiit's barbed cat ***. No really.

    As far as I care, it won't hurt my lore if the child isn't of the mother's race... Not certain what others will think though.

    Edit: For those of you that really want to read about the Barenziah thing and Khajiit ***, it's in part III of the book.
    Edited by Panda244 on March 3, 2015 1:03AM
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  • jelliedsoup
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    Dunmer stay pure! #DunmerMasterRace

    Is that why the red zerg marches with such efficiency? #blitzkrieg

    www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=Ks8_KGHqmO4
  • Gidorick
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    I've totally read that entire lorebook @Panda244. Interesting stuff.
    What ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
    That's right... Horse.
    Click HERE to discuss.

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  • Panda244
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    Gidorick wrote: »
    I've totally read that entire lorebook @Panda244. Interesting stuff.

    @Gidorick May god have mercy on your poor corrupted soul. Requiescat in pace. /bow

    xD
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  • WhiskyBob
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    Bretons are a mixed race.

    There you go.
  • timidobserver
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    This thread is blasphemy.
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  • Panda244
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    WhiskyBob wrote: »
    Bretons are a mixed race.

    There you go.

    Bretons are the result of a millennium of interbreeding between Aldmer and Nedes. Not something that just happened overnight, Interbreeding is possible, but it's not like you get the best of both worlds after nine months, you have to interbreed over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over, and I could make this sound SO perverted. But you get the idea.
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  • Pausekey
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    Dunmer stay pure! #DunmerMasterRace

    I agree.

    In fact I am looking forward to an Argonian mount in the Crown store. Or at least one I can drag around to carry all my things.
  • Panda244
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    Pausekey wrote: »
    Dunmer stay pure! #DunmerMasterRace

    I agree.

    In fact I am looking forward to an Argonian mount in the Crown store. Or at least one I can drag around to carry all my things.
    Denied.

    Altmer Master Race, Khajiit + Altmer = Master's of the Master Race! @Telel and @ezareth_ESO will agree.
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  • Telel
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    Telel agrees with anything that reminds others that while this one is decidedly not a threat, nor should they be feared they should still be considered less silly than an elf.
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  • Panda244
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    Telel wrote: »
    Telel agrees with anything that reminds others that while this one is decidedly not a threat, nor should they be feared they should still be considered less silly than an elf.

    @Telel No matter, you still use N'tel as a human shield when you can :heart:
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  • AngryNord
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    Stop this silly bickering all of you, and do what you should have done all along: Bow down in deep respect to the Nord master race.
  • xMovingTarget
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    Pausekey wrote: »
    Dunmer stay pure! #DunmerMasterRace

    I agree.

    In fact I am looking forward to an Argonian mount in the Crown store. Or at least one I can drag around to carry all my things.

    Me too my friend, me too. I want 4 argonians carrying me

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  • Panda244
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    Pausekey wrote: »
    Dunmer stay pure! #DunmerMasterRace

    I agree.

    In fact I am looking forward to an Argonian mount in the Crown store. Or at least one I can drag around to carry all my things.

    Me too my friend, me too. I want 4 argonians carrying me

    cache_2415396644.jpg?t=1294536545

    Like this!

    @xMovingTarget BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA. Yes. All kinds of yes.
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