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But I only have 210 days paid time...I get nothing. :(

brandon.coker101_ESO
So unfair.....
  • nerevarine1138
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    What's unfair about it, exactly?
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  • brandon.coker101_ESO
    What's unfair about it, exactly?

    Because it makes me sad that even though I have 210 days paid my sub means nothing to them!!! NOTHING!!!11!!one!!111
  • nerevarine1138
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    What's unfair about it, exactly?

    Because it makes me sad that even though I have 210 days paid my sub means nothing to them!!! NOTHING!!!11!!one!!111

    I wasn't aware that we were all subscribing to this game for the chance at fluff rewards down the line.

    The Loyalty Rewards program was simply a way to offer players a little cosmetic item to show off their commitment to the game. There's always going to be a cutoff for that reward, and some people are always going to miss that cutoff. It doesn't mean that your subscription was "meaningless". It just means that you didn't qualify for the free gift.
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    Murray?
  • Gidorick
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    What ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
    That's right... Horse.
    Click HERE to discuss.

    Want more crazy ideas? Check out my Concept Repository!
  • brandon.coker101_ESO
    What's unfair about it, exactly?

    Because it makes me sad that even though I have 210 days paid my sub means nothing to them!!! NOTHING!!!11!!one!!111

    I wasn't aware that we were all subscribing to this game for the chance at fluff rewards down the line.

    The Loyalty Rewards program was simply a way to offer players a little cosmetic item to show off their commitment to the game. There's always going to be a cutoff for that reward, and some people are always going to miss that cutoff. It doesn't mean that your subscription was "meaningless". It just means that you didn't qualify for the free gift.

    So I'm not good enough?!!
  • nerevarine1138
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    What's unfair about it, exactly?

    Because it makes me sad that even though I have 210 days paid my sub means nothing to them!!! NOTHING!!!11!!one!!111

    I wasn't aware that we were all subscribing to this game for the chance at fluff rewards down the line.

    The Loyalty Rewards program was simply a way to offer players a little cosmetic item to show off their commitment to the game. There's always going to be a cutoff for that reward, and some people are always going to miss that cutoff. It doesn't mean that your subscription was "meaningless". It just means that you didn't qualify for the free gift.

    So I'm not good enough?!!

    No. You just haven't subscribed for long enough.
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    Murray?
  • BBSooner
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    You got a Wraith for 3 months and Dwemer Sphere for 6 months. You just don't apply for the 9 or 10 month rewards.
  • Gidorick
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    210 days =7 months so you will get 700 crowns as a thank you. You can buy a wedding dress.
    What ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
    That's right... Horse.
    Click HERE to discuss.

    Want more crazy ideas? Check out my Concept Repository!
  • brandon.coker101_ESO
    Gidorick wrote: »
    210 days =7 months so you will get 700 crowns as a thank you. You can buy a wedding dress.

    I gave you an awesome vote for that amazing post!
  • Rezzy64
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    What's unfair about it, exactly?

    Because it makes me sad that even though I have 210 days paid my sub means nothing to them!!! NOTHING!!!11!!one!!111

    "LOL" (Gotta say it now that it's gone, I admit I laughed.)

    I can understand how you feel about not making it to the cut off date, but you and tons of other people are in the exact same boat, including myself. I definitely did not hit the deadline for the whatever prize they're giving to loyal subscribers since day one. I'm not upset, because ZOS is following the classic guidelines of "B2P" and "F2P" which is, if you didn't get something super cool and unique now, you'll get something like it later on for other reasons.
    Games like these love giving away unique cosmetic stuff to help players acquire a sense of standing out from others which in turn encourages players to spend more money on the game to acquire such unique items. They'll probably throw some "once only" unique events on certain days or for limited periods of time that will give items that will never be obtainable again within the game. Sometimes (if the items are trade-able) it might create a collector's economy which is often the case in some of these games.
    Don't worry, you'll get something super unique eventually, and next time it'll probably be easier to achieve then having played the game since day one.
  • Elridge
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    Rezzy64 wrote: »
    What's unfair about it, exactly?

    Because it makes me sad that even though I have 210 days paid my sub means nothing to them!!! NOTHING!!!11!!one!!111

    "LOL" (Gotta say it now that it's gone, I admit I laughed.)

    I can understand how you feel about not making it to the cut off date, but you and tons of other people are in the exact same boat, including myself. I definitely did not hit the deadline for the whatever prize they're giving to loyal subscribers since day one. I'm not upset, because ZOS is following the classic guidelines of "B2P" and "F2P" which is, if you didn't get something super cool and unique now, you'll get something like it later on for other reasons.
    Games like these love giving away unique cosmetic stuff to help players acquire a sense of standing out from others which in turn encourages players to spend more money on the game to acquire such unique items. They'll probably throw some "once only" unique events on certain days or for limited periods of time that will give items that will never be obtainable again within the game. Sometimes (if the items are trade-able) it might create a collector's economy which is often the case in some of these games.
    Don't worry, you'll get something super unique eventually, and next time it'll probably be easier to achieve then having played the game since day one.

    I just wanted to say, well said haha

    as well as add, you shouldn't have gotten "nothing" brandon, you got your play time plus an Ice Wraith and a Dwemer Sphere. Just because they aren't the items that you wanted on the list of rewards, you shouldn't call it "nothing". IMO it's kinda insulting to the people that created those particular nice little gifts.
    Edited by Elridge on February 19, 2015 7:22PM
    Account Name:@Elridge
    "Be kind and generous to the people of Tamriel. Protect the weak, heal the sick, and give to the needy." -Stendarr "Ten Commands of the Nine Divines"
  • brandon.coker101_ESO
    Elridge wrote: »
    Rezzy64 wrote: »
    What's unfair about it, exactly?

    Because it makes me sad that even though I have 210 days paid my sub means nothing to them!!! NOTHING!!!11!!one!!111

    "LOL" (Gotta say it now that it's gone, I admit I laughed.)

    I can understand how you feel about not making it to the cut off date, but you and tons of other people are in the exact same boat, including myself. I definitely did not hit the deadline for the whatever prize they're giving to loyal subscribers since day one. I'm not upset, because ZOS is following the classic guidelines of "B2P" and "F2P" which is, if you didn't get something super cool and unique now, you'll get something like it later on for other reasons.
    Games like these love giving away unique cosmetic stuff to help players acquire a sense of standing out from others which in turn encourages players to spend more money on the game to acquire such unique items. They'll probably throw some "once only" unique events on certain days or for limited periods of time that will give items that will never be obtainable again within the game. Sometimes (if the items are trade-able) it might create a collector's economy which is often the case in some of these games.
    Don't worry, you'll get something super unique eventually, and next time it'll probably be easier to achieve then having played the game since day one.

    I just wanted to say, well said haha

    as well as add, you shouldn't have gotten "nothing" brandon, you got your play time plus an Ice Wraith and a Dwemer Sphere. Just because they aren't the items that you wanted on the list of rewards, you shouldn't call it "nothing". IMO it's kinda insulting to the people that created those particular nice little gifts.

    Pets mean nothing to me..it's not personal against the people who made them I just don't care for them.
  • The_Antiquarian
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    Elridge wrote: »
    Rezzy64 wrote: »
    What's unfair about it, exactly?

    Because it makes me sad that even though I have 210 days paid my sub means nothing to them!!! NOTHING!!!11!!one!!111

    "LOL" (Gotta say it now that it's gone, I admit I laughed.)

    I can understand how you feel about not making it to the cut off date, but you and tons of other people are in the exact same boat, including myself. I definitely did not hit the deadline for the whatever prize they're giving to loyal subscribers since day one. I'm not upset, because ZOS is following the classic guidelines of "B2P" and "F2P" which is, if you didn't get something super cool and unique now, you'll get something like it later on for other reasons.
    Games like these love giving away unique cosmetic stuff to help players acquire a sense of standing out from others which in turn encourages players to spend more money on the game to acquire such unique items. They'll probably throw some "once only" unique events on certain days or for limited periods of time that will give items that will never be obtainable again within the game. Sometimes (if the items are trade-able) it might create a collector's economy which is often the case in some of these games.
    Don't worry, you'll get something super unique eventually, and next time it'll probably be easier to achieve then having played the game since day one.

    I just wanted to say, well said haha

    as well as add, you shouldn't have gotten "nothing" brandon, you got your play time plus an Ice Wraith and a Dwemer Sphere. Just because they aren't the items that you wanted on the list of rewards, you shouldn't call it "nothing".

    No no no. Zenimax/Bethada gave an official statement months ago that all Loyalty rewards will be available for those who meet the subscription criteria." When they posted the Road Ahead Commentary, they effectively gave us ONE FREAKEN SINGLE MONTH to be able to meet the criteria for the FINAL loyalty reward that will never be available in the future anymore. If they announced such change and gave us a sufficient time for us to show our level of loyalty, we would have done so. If they truly want to test our loyalty, then they should provide ALL the loyalty rewards to those who apply additional subscription time up until the Unlimited launch and hand out the loyalty rewards once our prepaid gametimes become elapsed into the future. That would be the most fair way to treat those who are loyal to the game, but were unfortunate to start at the launch of ESO due to extraordinary RL reasons.
  • nerevarine1138
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    Elridge wrote: »
    Rezzy64 wrote: »
    What's unfair about it, exactly?

    Because it makes me sad that even though I have 210 days paid my sub means nothing to them!!! NOTHING!!!11!!one!!111

    "LOL" (Gotta say it now that it's gone, I admit I laughed.)

    I can understand how you feel about not making it to the cut off date, but you and tons of other people are in the exact same boat, including myself. I definitely did not hit the deadline for the whatever prize they're giving to loyal subscribers since day one. I'm not upset, because ZOS is following the classic guidelines of "B2P" and "F2P" which is, if you didn't get something super cool and unique now, you'll get something like it later on for other reasons.
    Games like these love giving away unique cosmetic stuff to help players acquire a sense of standing out from others which in turn encourages players to spend more money on the game to acquire such unique items. They'll probably throw some "once only" unique events on certain days or for limited periods of time that will give items that will never be obtainable again within the game. Sometimes (if the items are trade-able) it might create a collector's economy which is often the case in some of these games.
    Don't worry, you'll get something super unique eventually, and next time it'll probably be easier to achieve then having played the game since day one.

    I just wanted to say, well said haha

    as well as add, you shouldn't have gotten "nothing" brandon, you got your play time plus an Ice Wraith and a Dwemer Sphere. Just because they aren't the items that you wanted on the list of rewards, you shouldn't call it "nothing". IMO it's kinda insulting to the people that created those particular nice little gifts.

    Pets mean nothing to me..it's not personal against the people who made them I just don't care for them.

    OK. So what, again, is your issue? That you didn't like the gifts you got?

    The whole point of a loyalty rewards system (which I don't particularly agree with in the first place, but if we're going to have one...) is to reward people based on their commitment.
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    Murray?
  • brandon.coker101_ESO

    OK. So what, again, is your issue? That you didn't like the gifts you got?

    My reply was to "IMO it's kinda insulting to the people that created those particular nice little gifts".

  • Elridge
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    Elridge wrote: »
    Rezzy64 wrote: »
    What's unfair about it, exactly?

    Because it makes me sad that even though I have 210 days paid my sub means nothing to them!!! NOTHING!!!11!!one!!111

    "LOL" (Gotta say it now that it's gone, I admit I laughed.)

    I can understand how you feel about not making it to the cut off date, but you and tons of other people are in the exact same boat, including myself. I definitely did not hit the deadline for the whatever prize they're giving to loyal subscribers since day one. I'm not upset, because ZOS is following the classic guidelines of "B2P" and "F2P" which is, if you didn't get something super cool and unique now, you'll get something like it later on for other reasons.
    Games like these love giving away unique cosmetic stuff to help players acquire a sense of standing out from others which in turn encourages players to spend more money on the game to acquire such unique items. They'll probably throw some "once only" unique events on certain days or for limited periods of time that will give items that will never be obtainable again within the game. Sometimes (if the items are trade-able) it might create a collector's economy which is often the case in some of these games.
    Don't worry, you'll get something super unique eventually, and next time it'll probably be easier to achieve then having played the game since day one.

    I just wanted to say, well said haha

    as well as add, you shouldn't have gotten "nothing" brandon, you got your play time plus an Ice Wraith and a Dwemer Sphere. Just because they aren't the items that you wanted on the list of rewards, you shouldn't call it "nothing".

    No no no. Zenimax/Bethada gave an official statement months ago that all Loyalty rewards will be available for those who meet the subscription criteria." When they posted the Road Ahead Commentary, they effectively gave us ONE FREAKEN SINGLE MONTH to be able to meet the criteria for the FINAL loyalty reward that will never be available in the future anymore. If they announced such change and gave us a sufficient time for us to show our level of loyalty, we would have done so. If they truly want to test our loyalty, then they should provide ALL the loyalty rewards to those who apply additional subscription time up until the Unlimited launch and hand out the loyalty rewards once our prepaid gametimes become elapsed into the future. That would be the most fair way to treat those who are loyal to the game, but were unfortunate to start at the launch of ESO due to extraordinary RL reasons.

    Can't you still do that for the senche mount? it doesn't count elapsed time, the jesters costume does, at least to my understanding. When most of us got our subscriptions that pushed us past into getting the senche mount, we were never told there would be a loyalty program to begin with... doing it without expecting the reward is basically what is separating the fans who are getting the mount from the fans who just want the reward... the people who paid without expecting this EXTRA stuff to begin with are the ones getting it

    edit: and I dunno why it matters how much time they give you when they announce it.. since anyone unable to get it, wont be getting it anyways? complaining about "ONE FREAKEN SINGLE MONTH" is completely irrelevant... since if you don't have time.. then you don't have the time
    Edited by Elridge on February 19, 2015 7:35PM
    Account Name:@Elridge
    "Be kind and generous to the people of Tamriel. Protect the weak, heal the sick, and give to the needy." -Stendarr "Ten Commands of the Nine Divines"
  • nerevarine1138
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    OK. So what, again, is your issue? That you didn't like the gifts you got?

    My reply was to "IMO it's kinda insulting to the people that created those particular nice little gifts".

    Wait, you created one of the loyalty rewards?

    Now I'm really confused.
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    Murray?
  • MorHawk
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    OK. So what, again, is your issue? That you didn't like the gifts you got?

    My reply was to "IMO it's kinda insulting to the people that created those particular nice little gifts".

    Wait, you created one of the loyalty rewards?

    Now I'm really confused.

    You're not the only one. Without using the dreaded T word, the fact that "NOTHING!!!11!!one!!111" was used in this guy's post, it's safe to say he's not serious here.
    Observant wrote: »
    I can count to potato.
    another topic that cant see past its own farts.
    WWJLHD?
  • Elridge
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    OK. So what, again, is your issue? That you didn't like the gifts you got?

    My reply was to "IMO it's kinda insulting to the people that created those particular nice little gifts".

    @neravarine1138 he was quoting me and I was talking about the people who actually created them, saying it's kinda unfair to them

    and even you don't like pets they aren't "nothing" as you said

    Edited by Elridge on February 19, 2015 7:39PM
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    "Be kind and generous to the people of Tamriel. Protect the weak, heal the sick, and give to the needy." -Stendarr "Ten Commands of the Nine Divines"
  • Pancake-Tragedy
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    I'm getting the senche tiger and I even unsubbed for a few months.


    Does that make you angry?
    Edited by Pancake-Tragedy on February 19, 2015 7:39PM
    Pancake Tragedy - Sorcerer
  • Gidorick
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    MorHawk wrote: »

    OK. So what, again, is your issue? That you didn't like the gifts you got?

    My reply was to "IMO it's kinda insulting to the people that created those particular nice little gifts".

    Wait, you created one of the loyalty rewards?

    Now I'm really confused.

    You're not the only one. Without using the dreaded T word, the fact that "NOTHING!!!11!!one!!111" was used in this guy's post, it's safe to say he's not serious here.

    Yea. I figured that to after. ..
    What's unfair about it, exactly?

    Because it makes me sad that even though I have 210 days paid my sub means nothing to them!!! NOTHING!!!11!!one!!111

    I wasn't aware that we were all subscribing to this game for the chance at fluff rewards down the line.

    The Loyalty Rewards program was simply a way to offer players a little cosmetic item to show off their commitment to the game. There's always going to be a cutoff for that reward, and some people are always going to miss that cutoff. It doesn't mean that your subscription was "meaningless". It just means that you didn't qualify for the free gift.

    So I'm not good enough?!!

    This was totally me:

    687474703a2f2f69352e70686f746f6275636b65742e636f6d2f616c62756d732f793137302f4974616368692d4b756e2f4647412f6e6f745f737572655f5f5f5f5f62795f6f6c6976656d6f6e6b65792d64343833626e655f7a707363303430333539372e706e677e6f726967696e616c
    What ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
    That's right... Horse.
    Click HERE to discuss.

    Want more crazy ideas? Check out my Concept Repository!
  • RainfeatherUK
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    I want a Paul Sage shirt for putting up with ZoS since alpha. Bet I dont get that either! :(
    Edited by RainfeatherUK on February 19, 2015 7:43PM
  • The_Antiquarian
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    Elridge wrote: »
    Elridge wrote: »
    Rezzy64 wrote: »
    What's unfair about it, exactly?

    Because it makes me sad that even though I have 210 days paid my sub means nothing to them!!! NOTHING!!!11!!one!!111

    "LOL" (Gotta say it now that it's gone, I admit I laughed.)

    I can understand how you feel about not making it to the cut off date, but you and tons of other people are in the exact same boat, including myself. I definitely did not hit the deadline for the whatever prize they're giving to loyal subscribers since day one. I'm not upset, because ZOS is following the classic guidelines of "B2P" and "F2P" which is, if you didn't get something super cool and unique now, you'll get something like it later on for other reasons.
    Games like these love giving away unique cosmetic stuff to help players acquire a sense of standing out from others which in turn encourages players to spend more money on the game to acquire such unique items. They'll probably throw some "once only" unique events on certain days or for limited periods of time that will give items that will never be obtainable again within the game. Sometimes (if the items are trade-able) it might create a collector's economy which is often the case in some of these games.
    Don't worry, you'll get something super unique eventually, and next time it'll probably be easier to achieve then having played the game since day one.

    I just wanted to say, well said haha

    as well as add, you shouldn't have gotten "nothing" brandon, you got your play time plus an Ice Wraith and a Dwemer Sphere. Just because they aren't the items that you wanted on the list of rewards, you shouldn't call it "nothing".

    No no no. Zenimax/Bethada gave an official statement months ago that all Loyalty rewards will be available for those who meet the subscription criteria." When they posted the Road Ahead Commentary, they effectively gave us ONE FREAKEN SINGLE MONTH to be able to meet the criteria for the FINAL loyalty reward that will never be available in the future anymore. If they announced such change and gave us a sufficient time for us to show our level of loyalty, we would have done so. If they truly want to test our loyalty, then they should provide ALL the loyalty rewards to those who apply additional subscription time up until the Unlimited launch and hand out the loyalty rewards once our prepaid gametimes become elapsed into the future. That would be the most fair way to treat those who are loyal to the game, but were unfortunate to start at the launch of ESO due to extraordinary RL reasons.

    Can't you still do that for the senche mount? it doesn't count elapsed time, the jesters costume does, at least to my understanding. When most of us got our subscriptions that pushed us past into getting the senche mount, we were never told there would be a loyalty program to begin with... doing it without expecting the reward is basically what is separating the fans who are getting the mount from the fans who just want the reward... the people who paid without expecting this EXTRA stuff to begin with are the ones getting it

    edit: and I dunno why it matters how much time they give you when they announce it.. since anyone unable to get it, wont be getting it anyways? complaining about "ONE FREAKEN SINGLE MONTH" is completely irrelevant... since if you don't have time.. then you don't have the time

    And here you are claiming that I do not qualify the Mask because I am less loyal since I did not subscribe since the game's launch. I am not saying we should be given the chance to buy our way through here. ESO promised us that eventually, all the loyalty rewards will be available for those who remain subscribed (yes, the official statement from the beginning of loyalty reward). Now, they decide to remove the Loyalty Program, which I am OK with in the first place, but what devastates us is that they told about this a single freaken month prior to the complete removal of the system. That runs contrary to their original statement that these rewards will be available for everyone once they continue to subscribe. You claim that we don't deserve it since we do not meet the criteria, but there are those who have done everything we can (minus the extraordinary RL circumstances that kept us away from the Launch date), who have maintained our subscription with the expectation that we will eventually get our Loyalty rewards someday. Not only are we deprived of this opportunity, ESO is running completely contrary to their original statements.

    The most equitable and meaningful solution would be to set the Unlimited launch date as the final date and allow those who have prepaid for 9 months worth of subscription, to receive the Loyalty Mask once our prepaid gametime gets applied as time goes by.
  • infraction2008b16_ESO
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    No doubt there will be tigers up on the crown store (but probably different colour/name) in disant future despite how "exclusive" they say it is as money always speaks louder than words.

    Once they realize how lucrative cash shops can be that is...
  • brandon.coker101_ESO
    I want a Paul Sage shirt for putting up with ZoS since alpha. Bet I dont get that either! :(

    It's just not fair!!
  • Elridge
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    Elridge wrote: »
    Elridge wrote: »
    Rezzy64 wrote: »
    What's unfair about it, exactly?

    Because it makes me sad that even though I have 210 days paid my sub means nothing to them!!! NOTHING!!!11!!one!!111

    "LOL" (Gotta say it now that it's gone, I admit I laughed.)

    I can understand how you feel about not making it to the cut off date, but you and tons of other people are in the exact same boat, including myself. I definitely did not hit the deadline for the whatever prize they're giving to loyal subscribers since day one. I'm not upset, because ZOS is following the classic guidelines of "B2P" and "F2P" which is, if you didn't get something super cool and unique now, you'll get something like it later on for other reasons.
    Games like these love giving away unique cosmetic stuff to help players acquire a sense of standing out from others which in turn encourages players to spend more money on the game to acquire such unique items. They'll probably throw some "once only" unique events on certain days or for limited periods of time that will give items that will never be obtainable again within the game. Sometimes (if the items are trade-able) it might create a collector's economy which is often the case in some of these games.
    Don't worry, you'll get something super unique eventually, and next time it'll probably be easier to achieve then having played the game since day one.

    I just wanted to say, well said haha

    as well as add, you shouldn't have gotten "nothing" brandon, you got your play time plus an Ice Wraith and a Dwemer Sphere. Just because they aren't the items that you wanted on the list of rewards, you shouldn't call it "nothing".

    No no no. Zenimax/Bethada gave an official statement months ago that all Loyalty rewards will be available for those who meet the subscription criteria." When they posted the Road Ahead Commentary, they effectively gave us ONE FREAKEN SINGLE MONTH to be able to meet the criteria for the FINAL loyalty reward that will never be available in the future anymore. If they announced such change and gave us a sufficient time for us to show our level of loyalty, we would have done so. If they truly want to test our loyalty, then they should provide ALL the loyalty rewards to those who apply additional subscription time up until the Unlimited launch and hand out the loyalty rewards once our prepaid gametimes become elapsed into the future. That would be the most fair way to treat those who are loyal to the game, but were unfortunate to start at the launch of ESO due to extraordinary RL reasons.

    Can't you still do that for the senche mount? it doesn't count elapsed time, the jesters costume does, at least to my understanding. When most of us got our subscriptions that pushed us past into getting the senche mount, we were never told there would be a loyalty program to begin with... doing it without expecting the reward is basically what is separating the fans who are getting the mount from the fans who just want the reward... the people who paid without expecting this EXTRA stuff to begin with are the ones getting it

    edit: and I dunno why it matters how much time they give you when they announce it.. since anyone unable to get it, wont be getting it anyways? complaining about "ONE FREAKEN SINGLE MONTH" is completely irrelevant... since if you don't have time.. then you don't have the time

    And here you are claiming that I do not qualify the Mask because I am less loyal since I did not subscribe since the game's launch. I am not saying we should be given the chance to buy our way through here. ESO promised us that eventually, all the loyalty rewards will be available for those who remain subscribed (yes, the official statement from the beginning of loyalty reward). Now, they decide to remove the Loyalty Program, which I am OK with in the first place, but what devastates us is that they told about this a single freaken month prior to the complete removal of the system. That runs contrary to their original statement that these rewards will be available for everyone once they continue to subscribe. You claim that we don't deserve it since we do not meet the criteria, but there are those who have done everything we can (minus the extraordinary RL circumstances that kept us away from the Launch date), who have maintained our subscription with the expectation that we will eventually get our Loyalty rewards someday. Not only are we deprived of this opportunity, ESO is running completely contrary to their original statements.

    The most equitable and meaningful solution would be to set the Unlimited launch date as the final date and allow those who have prepaid for 9 months worth of subscription, to receive the Loyalty Mask once our prepaid gametime gets applied as time goes by.

    All I stated was that we did it without expecting a reward back? I'd love to see where I claimed to be more loyal then yourself? I said those us of who did it without expecting a reward back are getting it? As opposed to the ones who just want the reward? Is that what you are talking about? Because no where did I claim to be more loyal. No amount of money or a mount can prove that.

    Stop putting words in my mouth, no where did I claim to be more loyal, you can say that "I" (myself) did this all you want, but that does not make it true. I did not state anywhere that you did not deserve it.. and quite honestly with your lack of understanding on how to quote people/cite sources, unless I see a source from a ZoS employee I am forced to not believe anything coming from you that you "claim" that they said.

    I personally never seen them say that /all/ loyalty rewards will be obtainable, to my knowledge it was every 3 months you get "that" months reward. Not the previous ones.

    I could however understand offering the mask to those who paid for 9 months of time, rather then elapsed time.
    Edited by Elridge on February 19, 2015 8:11PM
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  • Maverick827
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    What's unfair about it, exactly?
    I think all timed, exclusive rewards are unfair.

    It's unfair that I have access to all races in all factions because I was "loyal" up front and pre-ordered, whereas someone who is objectively more "loyal" in paid game time does not.

    It's unfair that someone who has paid for 300 days during the first year gets a "loyalty" mount whereas someone who will end up paying for 500+ days only slightly offset from the start of the game will not get the "loyalty" reward.

    Remove the time restraint and things will be fair.
  • Elridge
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    Found it, sorry but I had to confirm myself after words being put in my mouth that definitely did not come from me.

    and you are right they did state that eventually you could possibly get them all

    This is how you cite a source: http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-gb/news/post/2014/08/21/eso-subscriber-loyalty-program

    edit: If you want you could /try/ to fight ZoS on that, doubt they would do anything since well.. things change and obviously if they get rid of a system we can't get the items anymore.
    Edited by Elridge on February 19, 2015 8:16PM
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  • The_Antiquarian
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    Elridge wrote: »
    Elridge wrote: »
    Elridge wrote: »
    Rezzy64 wrote: »
    What's unfair about it, exactly?

    Because it makes me sad that even though I have 210 days paid my sub means nothing to them!!! NOTHING!!!11!!one!!111

    "LOL" (Gotta say it now that it's gone, I admit I laughed.)

    I can understand how you feel about not making it to the cut off date, but you and tons of other people are in the exact same boat, including myself. I definitely did not hit the deadline for the whatever prize they're giving to loyal subscribers since day one. I'm not upset, because ZOS is following the classic guidelines of "B2P" and "F2P" which is, if you didn't get something super cool and unique now, you'll get something like it later on for other reasons.
    Games like these love giving away unique cosmetic stuff to help players acquire a sense of standing out from others which in turn encourages players to spend more money on the game to acquire such unique items. They'll probably throw some "once only" unique events on certain days or for limited periods of time that will give items that will never be obtainable again within the game. Sometimes (if the items are trade-able) it might create a collector's economy which is often the case in some of these games.
    Don't worry, you'll get something super unique eventually, and next time it'll probably be easier to achieve then having played the game since day one.

    I just wanted to say, well said haha

    as well as add, you shouldn't have gotten "nothing" brandon, you got your play time plus an Ice Wraith and a Dwemer Sphere. Just because they aren't the items that you wanted on the list of rewards, you shouldn't call it "nothing".

    No no no. Zenimax/Bethada gave an official statement months ago that all Loyalty rewards will be available for those who meet the subscription criteria." When they posted the Road Ahead Commentary, they effectively gave us ONE FREAKEN SINGLE MONTH to be able to meet the criteria for the FINAL loyalty reward that will never be available in the future anymore. If they announced such change and gave us a sufficient time for us to show our level of loyalty, we would have done so. If they truly want to test our loyalty, then they should provide ALL the loyalty rewards to those who apply additional subscription time up until the Unlimited launch and hand out the loyalty rewards once our prepaid gametimes become elapsed into the future. That would be the most fair way to treat those who are loyal to the game, but were unfortunate to start at the launch of ESO due to extraordinary RL reasons.

    Can't you still do that for the senche mount? it doesn't count elapsed time, the jesters costume does, at least to my understanding. When most of us got our subscriptions that pushed us past into getting the senche mount, we were never told there would be a loyalty program to begin with... doing it without expecting the reward is basically what is separating the fans who are getting the mount from the fans who just want the reward... the people who paid without expecting this EXTRA stuff to begin with are the ones getting it

    edit: and I dunno why it matters how much time they give you when they announce it.. since anyone unable to get it, wont be getting it anyways? complaining about "ONE FREAKEN SINGLE MONTH" is completely irrelevant... since if you don't have time.. then you don't have the time

    And here you are claiming that I do not qualify the Mask because I am less loyal since I did not subscribe since the game's launch. I am not saying we should be given the chance to buy our way through here. ESO promised us that eventually, all the loyalty rewards will be available for those who remain subscribed (yes, the official statement from the beginning of loyalty reward). Now, they decide to remove the Loyalty Program, which I am OK with in the first place, but what devastates us is that they told about this a single freaken month prior to the complete removal of the system. That runs contrary to their original statement that these rewards will be available for everyone once they continue to subscribe. You claim that we don't deserve it since we do not meet the criteria, but there are those who have done everything we can (minus the extraordinary RL circumstances that kept us away from the Launch date), who have maintained our subscription with the expectation that we will eventually get our Loyalty rewards someday. Not only are we deprived of this opportunity, ESO is running completely contrary to their original statements.

    The most equitable and meaningful solution would be to set the Unlimited launch date as the final date and allow those who have prepaid for 9 months worth of subscription, to receive the Loyalty Mask once our prepaid gametime gets applied as time goes by.

    All I stated was that we did it without expecting a reward back? I'd love to see where I claimed to be more loyal then yourself? I said those us of who did it without expecting a reward back are getting it? As opposed to the ones who just want the reward? Is that what you are talking about? Because no where did I claim to be more loyal. No amount of money or a mount can prove that.

    Stop putting words in my mouth, no where did I claim to be more loyal, you can say that "I" (myself) did this all you want, but that does not make it true. I did not state anywhere that you did not deserve it.. and quite honestly with your lack of understanding on how to quote people/cite sources, unless I see a source from a ZoS employee I am forced to not believe anything coming from you that you "claim" that they said.

    I personally never seen them say that /all/ loyalty rewards will be obtainable, to my knowledge it was every 3 months you get "that" months reward. Not the previous ones.

    I could however understand offering the mask to those who paid for 9 months of time, rather then elapsed time.

    "If you haven’t kept your subscription active, don’t worry. You’ll still be able to get the pets and other upcoming rewards once you meet the requirements."

    Albeit the message was issued months ago, the crux of the it still stands: be subscribed and we will receive our rewards.

    When ESO decided to discontinue Loyalty Program, the least they could do was to provide those who wanted to receive those rewards, ample time to remain subscribed/fill in additional subscription. Instead, they provided us with a single month to sort this out while the final Loyalty Reward will never be available to us in the future.

    Once again, the most viable and equitable options would be 1) to make the criteria for the final loyalty reward, the same as Senche Mount, 2) to extend the loyalty reward program deadline, or 3) to allow loyal fans to apply prepaid game subscription/renew additional months of subscription to meet the 9 months criteria prior to the Unlimited launch date and distribute the reward once those prepaid times get elapsed in the future.
  • Elridge
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    @The_Antiquarian yes I posted the link above, and I agree it "should" still stand since that is what they have stated and completely agree that the very least they could do is to allow people to meet the 9 month criteria with adding in subscribed game time.

    Sadly since it was information from months ago, I'm not sure if people could hold them to that, as I'm sure in the future, they and many other game developers will change these types of things as months go by.
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    "Be kind and generous to the people of Tamriel. Protect the weak, heal the sick, and give to the needy." -Stendarr "Ten Commands of the Nine Divines"
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