Rare, Unobtainable, Discontinued Items: Let's make a list. (Also, a question for Zenimax).

Froggmann5

Essentially, I want to get an idea of all of the items that at one time were available, but now are not. I'll divide them up into Bound (Untradeable) and Unbound (Tradeable).

Unobtainable

Unbound:

* Mage Mercenary Contracts
* Warrior Mercenary Contracts
* Jeadi Rune
* Lire Rune
* Trueflame(?)***
* Hopesfire(?)***


Bound

* Clothiers Chest (Hireling)
* Blacksmiths Chest (Hireling)
* Forward Camps
* Collectors Coinblade
* Volendrung **
* Auriels Bow **

Currently Obtainable Through Normal Gameplay

Just Outright Rare

* Claw of the Dragon (VR12)
* Signet of the Warlock (VR12)
* (More to be added as more suggestions grow)
* Carrots (?)*
* Tomatoes (?)*


*At one point, these were rare. I am unsure if this is still the case.
** Unclear whether these ever made it into the full game.
*** Reports that some, but not all, of these are currently bound.

Just to be clear, I'm trying not to include *Glitched* items into the game. Things such as a normal resto staff with the Icon Missing, etc etc...

So, I propose that we come up with some sort of price for these items, and that Zenimax leave them in the game as is, so that us as players have some sort of medium of exchange for large-gold transactions.

How many of each item do you think resides in the game? Have anymore that you want me to add that I missed? Want to suggest a price? Comment below if you would!

Panda244

The v12 Claw of the Dragon, no longer exists in game, so if you have one it's rare AF, one of my friends spent two weeks looking for it and spent 70k on it when he found it, not overly expensive but still rare.

Froggmann5

Panda244 wrote: »

The v12 Claw of the Dragon, no longer exists in game, so if you have one it's rare AF, one of my friends spent two weeks looking for it and spent 70k on it when he found it, not overly expensive but still rare.

Thanks for the tip! I did not know about that one!

Panda244

Froggmann5 wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

The v12 Claw of the Dragon, no longer exists in game, so if you have one it's rare AF, one of my friends spent two weeks looking for it and spent 70k on it when he found it, not overly expensive but still rare.

Thanks for the tip! I did not know about that one!

NP, I can't think of any others though, sowwy

Teeba_Shei

warlock v12 stuff is too rare imo

edit: To clarify I meant the rings and amulet.

Froggmann5

I managed to find a couple more. All of the removed one word weapons seem to be Deadric Weapons (Auriels Bow, Volendrung, Etc...)

CodexMMO

I don't like items that can never be obtained if you started after a certain point in time.

Froggmann5

CodexMMO wrote: »

I don't like items that can never be obtained if you started after a certain point in time.

Ah, but it was bound to happen, as it does with any MMO. Every MMO has to have it's rare and collectible items

gurluasb16_ESO

Heres more information on Trueflame:
http://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/21vqdf/caught_a_unique_sword_while_fishing_anyone_else/

I don't know about the other items.

The_Sadist

Would VR12 purple Warlock rings be considered unobtainable these days? It sure feels like it.

log234

Are you sure that the Claw of the Dragon v12 is unobtainable?
According to this post someone got it as a drop as late as January.
Although I can't prove that they did it, I figured that it would be good to get a verification.

Froggmann5

log234 wrote: »

Are you sure that the Claw of the Dragon v12 is unobtainable?
According to this post someone got it as a drop as late as January.
Although I can't prove that they did it, I figured that it would be good to get a verification.

I've ran it my self around 5-6 times since posting this, and I haven't found it yet. I'll put it under the, "Possible" category.

SoulScream

Brigand Merc contract, was there a healer one? I can't remb. I did have several Lire runes but not anymore. Each time I learned one the ? would stay on it and I would forget and try to learn it again lol

Rook_Master

I have a few Jaedi and Lire saved up, are they priceless now?

wookiefriseur

Once every 2-3 months I use Jaedi or Lire by mistake, but still got some left

PS: There will be quite a lot of unobtainable stuff when the provisioning ingredients expire.

dafox187

the elder scrolls online is a item in this game it is impossible to get though and was never and will never be

starkerealm

Froggmann5 wrote: »

* Trueflame(?)***
* Hopesfire(?)***

These names should be familiar to anyone who finished the Tribunal expansion for Morrowind. For the rest of you, they're the blades of Almalexia and Lord Nerevar Indoril who's sort of a Dark Elf Jesus figure in the Tribunal faith. (Hopesfire is Almalexia's, Trueflame is Nerevar's.)

As with the beta era daedric artifacts, it's highly unlikely players were ever supposed to be able to obtain these weapons in game.

At a guess, I suspect these were created so Almalexia could wield them in combat. The flame enchant is probably just there to give the fire effect, and the lack of damage is because she'd be dealing it with whatever abilities she was given. I'm guessing this was scrapped at some point, or is intended further down the line for the game (there's some stray mentions of the Tribunal not making their annual pilgrimage to Red Mountain in game, apparently (I've never heard it first hand, however.))

SoulScream

You can add forum LOL badges to the list. More cannot be gained since the LOL option is removed!

starkerealm

Patros wrote: »

Once every 2-3 months I use Jaedi or Lire by mistake, but still got some left

PS: There will be quite a lot of unobtainable stuff when the provisioning ingredients expire.

Interestingly, at least on PTS, there's two versions of carrots. Since launch they've been obtainable as a rare ingredient, with no use. After 1.6 there will be a carrot ingredient, but it's actually a new item, with different art.

starkerealm

CodexMMO wrote: »

I don't like items that can never be obtained if you started after a certain point in time.

The Daedric artifacts were a thing in Beta. Honestly they were probably never supposed to appear on live, and were a neat, "here have a cookie" for beta players before launch. You can still bring the items up with the right href code, but that only lets you link them in chat.

The Mercenary contracts were, from what I understand, bugged and never actually worked properly, so they were cut.

Trueflame and Hopesfire were, probably like the artifacts. They're unique weapons in the setting, and having them available to players would be... odd. It's worth pointing out, at launch there was a lot of weirdness with the drop tables. There were people reporting that the mudcrab table had the Daedric motif book on it, for instance.

The Hireling chests were consumables. You'd crack them open and pull out the hireling rewards. They got phased out in favor of the items being in the mail directly for a couple reasons. 1, there was an exploit that let players pull the containers out multiple times. 2, there was an exploit where you could collect containers for one character, move them to another, and get better rewards from them. The whole system was scrapped and replaced with hireling mail that paid out in materials directly.

Collector's Coinblade was a low level green greatsword quest reward in Vulkel Guard. As I recall, it wasn't actually impressive in any way, and I think I actually vendored or broke mine down. So, you're just missing a uniquely named Altmer style, iron greatsword.

The quest itself was removed for some reason, with the suggestion that it would be coming back. It might be slated for a return with the justice system (the quest involved shaking people down), but I don't know.

Forward camps are a mechanic that's being retired from PvP.

The Runes are also buggy. They're not really supposed to be in the game, and provide... erratic enchantments. I think they're the essence runes used "under the hood" to create some of the weirder enchantments you can get off items, but I've never seen them first hand, so I'm not sure.

So... no, at least on the stuff in here, you're not missing out on anything.

DobbaDeuce

My Trueflame is bound, but I've also equipped it. I don't remember if it was BoE when I caught it.

CodexMMO

starkerealm wrote: »

CodexMMO wrote: »

I don't like items that can never be obtained if you started after a certain point in time.

The Daedric artifacts were a thing in Beta. Honestly they were probably never supposed to appear on live, and were a neat, "here have a cookie" for beta players before launch. You can still bring the items up with the right href code, but that only lets you link them in chat.

The Mercenary contracts were, from what I understand, bugged and never actually worked properly, so they were cut.

Trueflame and Hopesfire were, probably like the artifacts. They're unique weapons in the setting, and having them available to players would be... odd. It's worth pointing out, at launch there was a lot of weirdness with the drop tables. There were people reporting that the mudcrab table had the Daedric motif book on it, for instance.

The Hireling chests were consumables. You'd crack them open and pull out the hireling rewards. They got phased out in favor of the items being in the mail directly for a couple reasons. 1, there was an exploit that let players pull the containers out multiple times. 2, there was an exploit where you could collect containers for one character, move them to another, and get better rewards from them. The whole system was scrapped and replaced with hireling mail that paid out in materials directly.

Collector's Coinblade was a low level green greatsword quest reward in Vulkel Guard. As I recall, it wasn't actually impressive in any way, and I think I actually vendored or broke mine down. So, you're just missing a uniquely named Altmer style, iron greatsword.

The quest itself was removed for some reason, with the suggestion that it would be coming back. It might be slated for a return with the justice system (the quest involved shaking people down), but I don't know.

Forward camps are a mechanic that's being retired from PvP.

The Runes are also buggy. They're not really supposed to be in the game, and provide... erratic enchantments. I think they're the essence runes used "under the hood" to create some of the weirder enchantments you can get off items, but I've never seen them first hand, so I'm not sure.

So... no, at least on the stuff in here, you're not missing out on anything.

I guess what I am more thinking about are the collectible items. I want to be able to get them all the few random PTS and Beta items here and there don't bother me one bit.

starkerealm

CodexMMO wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

CodexMMO wrote: »

I don't like items that can never be obtained if you started after a certain point in time.

The Daedric artifacts were a thing in Beta. Honestly they were probably never supposed to appear on live, and were a neat, "here have a cookie" for beta players before launch. You can still bring the items up with the right href code, but that only lets you link them in chat.

The Mercenary contracts were, from what I understand, bugged and never actually worked properly, so they were cut.

Trueflame and Hopesfire were, probably like the artifacts. They're unique weapons in the setting, and having them available to players would be... odd. It's worth pointing out, at launch there was a lot of weirdness with the drop tables. There were people reporting that the mudcrab table had the Daedric motif book on it, for instance.

The Hireling chests were consumables. You'd crack them open and pull out the hireling rewards. They got phased out in favor of the items being in the mail directly for a couple reasons. 1, there was an exploit that let players pull the containers out multiple times. 2, there was an exploit where you could collect containers for one character, move them to another, and get better rewards from them. The whole system was scrapped and replaced with hireling mail that paid out in materials directly.

Collector's Coinblade was a low level green greatsword quest reward in Vulkel Guard. As I recall, it wasn't actually impressive in any way, and I think I actually vendored or broke mine down. So, you're just missing a uniquely named Altmer style, iron greatsword.

The quest itself was removed for some reason, with the suggestion that it would be coming back. It might be slated for a return with the justice system (the quest involved shaking people down), but I don't know.

Forward camps are a mechanic that's being retired from PvP.

The Runes are also buggy. They're not really supposed to be in the game, and provide... erratic enchantments. I think they're the essence runes used "under the hood" to create some of the weirder enchantments you can get off items, but I've never seen them first hand, so I'm not sure.

So... no, at least on the stuff in here, you're not missing out on anything.

I guess what I am more thinking about are the collectible items. I want to be able to get them all the few random PTS and Beta items here and there don't bother me one bit.

Well, then literally the only thing off that list that you're missing is a uniquely named green level 5 greatsword. It didn't even have a trait or enchantment.

Most of the things in that list are either buggy, consumables, or both. The only collectables you can't get now would be the event exclusive pets. At least, without resorting to ebay. Stuff like the beta participation monkey, or the convention Pig. After 1.6 you won't technically be able to get the Mannimarco, Golden Saint, or Dark Seducer costumes... but you'll still receive them if you qualify, they just go directly to your collection tab now. The same for the skeletal transformation gem. They're just not inventory items anymore.

EDIT: Wait, you might be missing out on the subscriber era loyalty rewards. The Ice Wraith and Dwemer Sphere pets, as well as the Sheo costume and the Senche mount. But, you probably already knew that.

CodexMMO

starkerealm wrote: »

CodexMMO wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

CodexMMO wrote: »

I don't like items that can never be obtained if you started after a certain point in time.

The Daedric artifacts were a thing in Beta. Honestly they were probably never supposed to appear on live, and were a neat, "here have a cookie" for beta players before launch. You can still bring the items up with the right href code, but that only lets you link them in chat.

The Mercenary contracts were, from what I understand, bugged and never actually worked properly, so they were cut.

Trueflame and Hopesfire were, probably like the artifacts. They're unique weapons in the setting, and having them available to players would be... odd. It's worth pointing out, at launch there was a lot of weirdness with the drop tables. There were people reporting that the mudcrab table had the Daedric motif book on it, for instance.

The Hireling chests were consumables. You'd crack them open and pull out the hireling rewards. They got phased out in favor of the items being in the mail directly for a couple reasons. 1, there was an exploit that let players pull the containers out multiple times. 2, there was an exploit where you could collect containers for one character, move them to another, and get better rewards from them. The whole system was scrapped and replaced with hireling mail that paid out in materials directly.

Collector's Coinblade was a low level green greatsword quest reward in Vulkel Guard. As I recall, it wasn't actually impressive in any way, and I think I actually vendored or broke mine down. So, you're just missing a uniquely named Altmer style, iron greatsword.

The quest itself was removed for some reason, with the suggestion that it would be coming back. It might be slated for a return with the justice system (the quest involved shaking people down), but I don't know.

Forward camps are a mechanic that's being retired from PvP.

The Runes are also buggy. They're not really supposed to be in the game, and provide... erratic enchantments. I think they're the essence runes used "under the hood" to create some of the weirder enchantments you can get off items, but I've never seen them first hand, so I'm not sure.

So... no, at least on the stuff in here, you're not missing out on anything.

I guess what I am more thinking about are the collectible items. I want to be able to get them all the few random PTS and Beta items here and there don't bother me one bit.

Well, then literally the only thing off that list that you're missing is a uniquely named green level 5 greatsword. It didn't even have a trait or enchantment.

Most of the things in that list are either buggy, consumables, or both. The only collectables you can't get now would be the event exclusive pets. At least, without resorting to ebay. Stuff like the beta participation monkey, or the convention Pig. After 1.6 you won't technically be able to get the Mannimarco, Golden Saint, or Dark Seducer costumes... but you'll still receive them if you qualify, they just go directly to your collection tab now. The same for the skeletal transformation gem. They're just not inventory items anymore.

EDIT: Wait, you might be missing out on the subscriber era loyalty rewards. The Ice Wraith and Dwemer Sphere pets, as well as the Sheo costume and the Senche mount. But, you probably already knew that.

Will the loyalty rewards ever propagate to us as we get the required subscribe time?

starkerealm

CodexMMO wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

CodexMMO wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

CodexMMO wrote: »

I don't like items that can never be obtained if you started after a certain point in time.

The Daedric artifacts were a thing in Beta. Honestly they were probably never supposed to appear on live, and were a neat, "here have a cookie" for beta players before launch. You can still bring the items up with the right href code, but that only lets you link them in chat.

The Mercenary contracts were, from what I understand, bugged and never actually worked properly, so they were cut.

Trueflame and Hopesfire were, probably like the artifacts. They're unique weapons in the setting, and having them available to players would be... odd. It's worth pointing out, at launch there was a lot of weirdness with the drop tables. There were people reporting that the mudcrab table had the Daedric motif book on it, for instance.

The Hireling chests were consumables. You'd crack them open and pull out the hireling rewards. They got phased out in favor of the items being in the mail directly for a couple reasons. 1, there was an exploit that let players pull the containers out multiple times. 2, there was an exploit where you could collect containers for one character, move them to another, and get better rewards from them. The whole system was scrapped and replaced with hireling mail that paid out in materials directly.

Collector's Coinblade was a low level green greatsword quest reward in Vulkel Guard. As I recall, it wasn't actually impressive in any way, and I think I actually vendored or broke mine down. So, you're just missing a uniquely named Altmer style, iron greatsword.

The quest itself was removed for some reason, with the suggestion that it would be coming back. It might be slated for a return with the justice system (the quest involved shaking people down), but I don't know.

Forward camps are a mechanic that's being retired from PvP.

The Runes are also buggy. They're not really supposed to be in the game, and provide... erratic enchantments. I think they're the essence runes used "under the hood" to create some of the weirder enchantments you can get off items, but I've never seen them first hand, so I'm not sure.

So... no, at least on the stuff in here, you're not missing out on anything.

I guess what I am more thinking about are the collectible items. I want to be able to get them all the few random PTS and Beta items here and there don't bother me one bit.

Well, then literally the only thing off that list that you're missing is a uniquely named green level 5 greatsword. It didn't even have a trait or enchantment.

Most of the things in that list are either buggy, consumables, or both. The only collectables you can't get now would be the event exclusive pets. At least, without resorting to ebay. Stuff like the beta participation monkey, or the convention Pig. After 1.6 you won't technically be able to get the Mannimarco, Golden Saint, or Dark Seducer costumes... but you'll still receive them if you qualify, they just go directly to your collection tab now. The same for the skeletal transformation gem. They're just not inventory items anymore.

EDIT: Wait, you might be missing out on the subscriber era loyalty rewards. The Ice Wraith and Dwemer Sphere pets, as well as the Sheo costume and the Senche mount. But, you probably already knew that.

Will the loyalty rewards ever propagate to us as we get the required subscribe time?

Nope, or at least not unless they change their minds. Right now those are specifically for players who were here by a certain date and remained with the game. Like the beta monkey and (to a lesser extent) the preorder scuttler.

EDIT: we do know other senche mounts are on the way, though... so that's not a complete lockout.

patrykplawskib16_ESO

The undaunted sets are hard to get like the valkyn of skoria adn etc...

MissBizz

I forgot all about the hierlings sending the chests! I like the new way better anyways.

CodexMMO

starkerealm wrote: »

CodexMMO wrote: »

Will the loyalty rewards ever propagate to us as we get the required subscribe time?

Nope, or at least not unless they change their minds. Right now those are specifically for players who were here by a certain date and remained with the game. Like the beta monkey and (to a lesser extent) the preorder scuttler.

EDIT: we do know other senche mounts are on the way, though... so that's not a complete lockout.

Dooooh

The way this page reads to me I thought that once my account passed the 3 month and 6 month subscription threshold I would get the cool pets: http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2014/08/21/eso-subscriber-loyalty-program

starkerealm

CodexMMO wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

CodexMMO wrote: »

Will the loyalty rewards ever propagate to us as we get the required subscribe time?

Nope, or at least not unless they change their minds. Right now those are specifically for players who were here by a certain date and remained with the game. Like the beta monkey and (to a lesser extent) the preorder scuttler.

EDIT: we do know other senche mounts are on the way, though... so that's not a complete lockout.

Dooooh

The way this page reads to me I thought that once my account passed the 3 month and 6 month subscription threshold I would get the cool pets: http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2014/08/21/eso-subscriber-loyalty-program

Yeah, but they've also said the program was being retired... though we don't know the exact circumstances of how that will work. It's possible that you'll still get them as you pass those milestones, from being in the game when it was subscription... but I wouldn't want you to get your hopes up, it's quite possible once March 16th rolls around, if you didn't get them, you're not going to. I just don't know. Sorry.

ShadowHvo

Daium, I would be willing to pay 500k gold for that Trueflame! Too bad its not obtainable anylonger!

CodexMMO

starkerealm wrote: »

CodexMMO wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

CodexMMO wrote: »

Will the loyalty rewards ever propagate to us as we get the required subscribe time?

Nope, or at least not unless they change their minds. Right now those are specifically for players who were here by a certain date and remained with the game. Like the beta monkey and (to a lesser extent) the preorder scuttler.

EDIT: we do know other senche mounts are on the way, though... so that's not a complete lockout.

Dooooh

The way this page reads to me I thought that once my account passed the 3 month and 6 month subscription threshold I would get the cool pets: http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2014/08/21/eso-subscriber-loyalty-program

Yeah, but they've also said the program was being retired... though we don't know the exact circumstances of how that will work. It's possible that you'll still get them as you pass those milestones, from being in the game when it was subscription... but I wouldn't want you to get your hopes up, it's quite possible once March 16th rolls around, if you didn't get them, you're not going to. I just don't know. Sorry.

I opened a ticket with support ask them about this.

EDIT: Support got back to me today and said there are no plans to offer the High Wrothgar Ice Wraith pet, the Loyal Dwarven Sphere pet, and the Mask of Cheerful Slaughter costume in the crown store and my account will not qualify for them before the program is retired. I am so bummed out I thought I was on track to get them.