ambush, biting jabs, killers blade... etc

rossjon1

Giving these skills stamina morphs opens up builds, except if you are a magica build. I was wondering if the idea to keep these skills magica based but add the third morph to go stam was brought up before? The changes in 1.6 makes my builds feel more limited.

Aett_Thorn

Brought up before? Yes. Implemented as such? No.

Zershar_Vemod

rossjon1 wrote: »

Giving these skills stamina morphs opens up builds, except if you are a magica build. I was wondering if the idea to keep these skills magica based but add the third morph to go stam was brought up before? The changes in 1.6 makes my builds feel more limited.

You aren't the only one.

I need to figure out an entirely new build thanks to ambush and killer's blade going stamina...I run a magicka NB and did great up until 1.6 on PTS...

They shouldn't have changed these to stamina, or like suggested, have stamina and magicka morphs to appeal to all.

Brasseurfb16_ESO

I don't understand why ZoS can't just make class abilities scale of your highest stats like they did with ultimates and the Aedric Spear passive. Would actualy make a lot more sense to me...

deepseamk20b14_ESO

IMHO and what I changed and why:

Going to be running (1st bar) killers blade, concealed weapon, shadowy disguise/dark cloak I haven't decided, lotus fan, mass hysteria/sap essence. ult=soul harvest/soul tether

(2nd bar) Rapid regen, degeneration/dampen magicka/crippling grasp, reapers mark, shadow image, swallow soul. ult=pack leader

Killers blade- because it's nasty. Doesn't matter who kills your target you get a great heal. Sure it's stamina and I am a magicka user but it's a finishing move you don't spam until the end and so far it always works out.

concealed weapon- I used to use surprise attack for it's amazing armor reduction, but with reapers mark I find the speed bonus from this is much better and suit my gorilla attack style tactics.

shadowy disguise/dark cloak- honestly not sure which one yet. I currently use dark cloak and it is extremely useful removing DoTs especially from enemy siege weapons. If the crit tables stay as is in PTS shadowy disguises 100% crit may be nasty as well.

Lotus fan- WAY better now. The damage, although mostly a DoT, is massive compared to ambush. Sure I like the extra attack power on next skill from ambush but I'm a magicka user and it would drain my stamina to much unlike killers blade. The snare is really nice and you teleport to the enemy.

Mass hysteria/sap essence- Now fear THREE people. Still a very strong skill (unless they don't fix one of the champion points that makes it so once breaking free from CC like fear all stamina skills costs like 80% less). The snare and debuff to enemy damage is very nice. Sap essence, the heal is still crap but at least it's a steady 20% increase in spell and weapon power regardless of how many are around.

soul harvest/soul tether- Soul harvest hit's like an absolute truck and even in 1.6 I have the ult up almost constantly and it is superb for ganking. Soul tether is an amazing AoE stun that in 1.6 now drains multiple enemies life force. Cannot be blocked AND it will cost less in 1.6. Awesome skill indeed.

rapid regen- Because we need a heal and if you hit and run and use your cloak well you will get the full benefit of this skill.

degeneration/dampen magicka/crippling grasp- It's a hard one to decide. Crippling grasp gives amazing mobility and I'll use it on random NPC's in cyrodiil just to get some speed if no others around. The DoT is also strong and over a short amount of time to cause full damage. Casting right before someone charges will stop them in their tracks. Dampen magicka or even magicka harness has served me well in pre 1.6, it's nice having a shield and is best against sorcs or those Funnel health NB builds. Degeneration has a good DoT but takes too damn long for all the damage to occur. The heal is next to nil but helps. It's the new 1.6 that gives you 20% spell power increase that makes it look better than sap essence at the moment.

reapers mark- Do I really need to say? 75% reduction to enemy armor and spell resist, no debuff on self, and a huge heal plus extra damage buff after killing the affected target? Killers blade plus reapers mark=burst heal. Choose your targets carefully and thoughtfully.

shadow image- Has saved my but a lot and confuses most enemies. The teleport is amazing and now in 1.6 costs nothing to teleport.

Swallow soul- used to use funnel health for the ult regen but in 1.6 I think i'll stick with swallow soul for the extra healing I receive. Really my main ranged skill that I have killed many a wall hugger who think their bow attacks can out damage my funnel health/swallow soul attacks.

pack leader- I gain ultimate even faster which will be needed even more so in 1.6.

dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO

rossjon1 wrote: »

Giving these skills stamina morphs opens up builds, except if you are a magica build. I was wondering if the idea to keep these skills magica based but add the third morph to go stam was brought up before? The changes in 1.6 makes my builds feel more limited.

its a tiny limitation compared to stam builds. even with the changes stamina builds are still much more limited than magica builds. going to have to get over the one morph you wish you still had.

ScruffyWhiskers

deepseamk20b14_ESO wrote: »

IMHO and what I changed and why:

concealed weapon- I used to use surprise attack for it's amazing armor reduction, but with reapers mark I find the speed bonus from this is much better and suit my gorilla attack style tactics.

Lotus fan- WAY better now. The damage, although mostly a DoT, is massive compared to ambush. Sure I like the extra attack power on next skill from ambush but I'm a magicka user and it would drain my stamina to much unlike killers blade. The snare is really nice and you teleport to the enemy.

I really like hearing this. Do you happen to know if concealed weapon is now based off of spell crit? Have you thought about gear for 1.6? I love that impen is not going to neuter my 68% weapon crit but since I am sticking to a magicka build for my nb, I am wondering if I will never get to see awesome pvp crits for concealed weapon.

Also, when I fight sorcs I like to ride them with ambush as they try and bolt away. Does the lotus fan DoT stack? If I follow a sorc with Lotus Fan is it only going to keep replacing the DoT?

Thanks for the great info!