NPCs detecting stealthed players

CMG138

This is something that has been bugging the hell out of me for some time now. Am I the only one who thinks it's ridiculous that an NPC all the way up on a wall can spot me when I am sneaking, and in full medium armor?

murtugo

Maybe this will help:

" Guards at keeps can no longer see you if you’re stealthed outside of their detection radius." (pts patch notes v.1.6.2)

DDuke

murtugo wrote: »

Maybe this will help:

" Guards at keeps can no longer see you if you’re stealthed outside of their detection radius." (pts patch notes v.1.6.2)

If I'm not mistaken, that just fixed another bug on PTS, where those NPCs were able to instantly detect you even outside their 50m instant detection radius.

They still instantly detected me within 50m last time I tested it on PTS, and I was unable to restealth for the next 2 minutes, even after running far away from their range.

thelordoffelines

These guards had special training to help them see sneaky people.

Cody

The guards have long range thermal vision goggles. It is the only explanation.

but yes the detection range is utterly ridiculous. One can leave the keeps general vicinity and the guards will still keep him/her out of stealth. It is completely ridiculous.

Lava_Croft

It's hardly out of line with the rest of their ridiculous abilities. If the guards adhered to the 'regular' detection system, every single Nightblade could freely sneak around the keep, something which I think doesn't really benefit Cyrodiil gameplay as a whole.

But goddamnit it's annoying to randomly come within a 2-mile radius of a keep and be detected by a Mage Guard, forcing you to hide somewhere for a couple of minutes.

CMG138

murtugo wrote: »

Maybe this will help:

" Guards at keeps can no longer see you if you’re stealthed outside of their detection radius." (pts patch notes v.1.6.2)

Perhaps I should read the patch notes. Do we know what this detection radius is though?

Awetopsy1703

I was going to sneak past this post but i'm stuck in combat and can't stealth

Cody

Awetopsy1703 wrote: »

I was going to sneak past this post but i'm stuck in combat and can't stealth

that sucks.

I bet its because of your router. Be sure to restart it!

WRX

I don't think your leather would safe you sneaking in the middle of a field in daylight.

Talk about ridiculous lol

Cody

WRX wrote: »

I don't think your leather would safe you sneaking in the middle of a field in daylight.

Talk about ridiculous lol

you want to go realistic? oh man you have no idea what I have in store for you...

last chance to back down:)

murtugo

CMG138 wrote: »

murtugo wrote: »

Maybe this will help:

" Guards at keeps can no longer see you if you’re stealthed outside of their detection radius." (pts patch notes v.1.6.2)

Perhaps I should read the patch notes. Do we know what this detection radius is though?

@DDuke said its 50 m. I think his post would best answer your question:

"If I'm not mistaken, that just fixed another bug on PTS, where those NPCs were able to instantly detect you even outside their 50m instant detection radius.

They still instantly detected me within 50m last time I tested it on PTS, and I was unable to restealth for the next 2 minutes, even after running far away from their range."

CMG138

50m detection radius? That is ridiculous. Their detection radius should be limited to that of players.

seancaputo_ESO

There is a fine grey area here... Some teammates always scream how did he see me....

There is no true stealth in this game -- There is an invisibility pot, and the KB can shadow out for a few seconds - but can be knocked out.

Everyone can sneak -- but that is not stealth. You can have passives to make it harder to detect... but again, no one is stealthed here.

nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO

It has seriously changed in 1.6.3. Now you can easily sneak within 10-15 yards of a resource flag and not get guard agro. This opens up for stealth groups taking resources and not been detected until they are on the flag.

CMG138

seancaputo_ESO wrote: »

There is a fine grey area here... Some teammates always scream how did he see me....

There is no true stealth in this game -- There is an invisibility pot, and the KB can shadow out for a few seconds - but can be knocked out.

Everyone can sneak -- but that is not stealth. You can have passives to make it harder to detect... but again, no one is stealthed here.

Stealth is being difficult to detect, not invisible, so yes, there is stealth in this game. Being stealthy does not make you invisible. Although I probably should've used the word sneak.

DDuke

nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO wrote: »

It has seriously changed in 1.6.3. Now you can easily sneak within 10-15 yards of a resource flag and not get guard agro. This opens up for stealth groups taking resources and not been detected until they are on the flag.

Really? That sounds almost too good to be true... I'll have to test this out on PTS.

Thanks for the information.

Update: confirmed to be the case. Awesome