Road Ahead--No New Information Why?

Kevingway · February 2015

I'm not trying to start one of those controversy threads, though I have to state my disappointment in the pretty much guaranteed nature of the whole "there won't be any new content for a long time" bit. Why in the world does this road ahead give us absolutely nothing to go on in terms of when to expect future content? This one was pretty much a "Yup, here's what we've stated all over the place in the past few weeks."

I want to know when vet ranks are planned on being removed. Are they, now? I want to know when we can expect to see different skill lines, areas, etc. Is spellcrafting off the table?

I wish I didn't have to become one of those doomsday thread starters, but dear lord... I can't see myself continuing to have any faith in anything that I've been looking forward to the past few months when not a bit of it is mentioned in the section it's required to be in. Why write a Road Ahead when it doesn't detail any plans for upcoming content?

Breg_Magol · February 2015

The road ahead is paved with good intentions, a few rocks, stones and gravelly bits ... and every so often there'll be some road-kill.

But ... what do you do when life gives you road-kill? Why, you make hamburgers of course!

Soulshine · February 2015

Good points and I feel the same and no, you asking such questions (or any of us asking them) is not about gloom and dooming. We are paying consumers and would like to know where are our dollars are going please.

dharbert · February 2015

I can sum up the road ahead for you. Expect no new content for the next 6 months. There's your road ahead.

wraith808 · February 2015

Soulshine wrote: »

Good points and I feel the same and no, you asking such questions (or any of us asking them) is not about gloom and dooming. We are paying consumers and would like to know where are our dollars are going please.

We are paying consumers of a service, i.e. what we pay is for now, not the future, because it's likely to change. If you don't like where it is now, then don't pay. If you do, then do. But don't pay because they say that they're going to do something...

Jando · February 2015

The summary of the road ahead is this:

XP Boost potions are coming. Be prepared.

Bouvin · February 2015

dharbert wrote: »

I can sum up the road ahead for you. Expect no new content for the next 6 months. There's your road ahead.

But you do get a tiger if you're a founder. I just hope they dont put the tiger in the cash shop so that it can remain unique for those who stuck with the game since day 1.

Soulshine · February 2015

wraith808 wrote: »

Soulshine wrote: »

Good points and I feel the same and no, you asking such questions (or any of us asking them) is not about gloom and dooming. We are paying consumers and would like to know where are our dollars are going please.

We are paying consumers of a service, i.e. what we pay is for now, not the future, because it's likely to change. If you don't like where it is now, then don't pay. If you do, then do. But don't pay because they say that they're going to do something...

Your comment is rude and uncalled for. I have stated very clearly anumber of times around here that, I did not pay my sub for the game's "potential" as it were. Do not confuse wanting information on the direction of the game with confusion over where it is at this moment.

Roechacca · February 2015

You'll need to improv awhile

badmojo · February 2015

I think the only part that I liked in this road ahead was...

Another part of our transition to Tamriel Unlimited will include the retirement of the Loyalty Program.

NewBlacksmurf · February 2015

It had good information for consoles which was asked for at least for 9 months now. While there was not new PC information, the 1.6 final patch notes will cover all that missing info, and it seems like that was the point of the reference in the road ahead.

Roechacca · February 2015

You'll be able to enjoy all the fantastic old content on a brand new mount . Isn't that exciting ?

EQBallzz · February 2015

The main thing you need to read from the Road Ahead to answer your question is this one line:

We'll constantly be working on new Crown Store items, so expect to see them rolled out on the PTS from time to time.

They already stated that spellcrafting is not being worked on anymore and they will be letting the game "breath" after console launch. So after 1.6 not much of anything and then after the console launch a prolonged "breathing" period. They will however be working constantly on adding things to buy in the Crown Store so I guess you can get your wallet ready for some purchases to tide you over until 2016 when you might get some new playable content. Or not.

xMovingTarget · February 2015

EQBallzz wrote: »

The main thing you need to read from the Road Ahead to answer your question is this one line:

We'll constantly be working on new Crown Store items, so expect to see them rolled out on the PTS from time to time.

They already stated that spellcrafting is not being worked on anymore and they will be letting the game "breath" after console launch. So after 1.6 not much of anything and then after the console launch a prolonged "breathing" period. They will however be working constantly on adding things to buy in the Crown Store so I guess you can get your wallet ready for some purchases to tide you over until 2016 when you might get some new playable content. Or not.

I probably wont last until 2016 when theres nothing new coming out. I feel burned out already

Theres literally not much to do anymore. At some point you did everything "except Master Angler". its just login for hirelings, maybe do 1 daylie, chat 10 minutes logout. log back in in the evening to do trials with guild(trials also getting kinda boring at this point), log back out and done.

wraith808 · February 2015

Soulshine wrote: »

wraith808 wrote: »

Soulshine wrote: »

Good points and I feel the same and no, you asking such questions (or any of us asking them) is not about gloom and dooming. We are paying consumers and would like to know where are our dollars are going please.

We are paying consumers of a service, i.e. what we pay is for now, not the future, because it's likely to change. If you don't like where it is now, then don't pay. If you do, then do. But don't pay because they say that they're going to do something...

Your comment is rude and uncalled for. I have stated very clearly anumber of times around here that, I did not pay my sub for the game's "potential" as it were. Do not confuse wanting information on the direction of the game with confusion over where it is at this moment.

How is it rude? And it's definitely not uncalled for. How we spend our money for a service in no way entitles us to any information nor influence on direction. A good company will do such things, but the reality of the situation is quite different. Above the service paid for, we're entitled to exactly what they give us... no more or less. And that is what we should base our expenditures on.

I hear many times ZOS promised us... or ZOS said... or any other variations on this inserting different names, or even customer service names.

The only thing that we can depend on is what is released. The other things are nice to know, and shouldn't really influence our spending decisions. Because they are more apt to change in some fashion than not. They even make that disclaimer in a lot of cases.

Blunt? Maybe. A different opinion? Definitely. But not rude, nor uncalled for, especially as all of us can express ourselves freely, and that's what the board is for. In my opinion, by keeping focused on what they're delivering instead of what they say they'll deliver, one is not be disappointed when they don't and won't get a sense of being cheated when we got exactly what we paid for.

NukeAllTheThings · February 2015

Bouvin wrote: »

dharbert wrote: »

I can sum up the road ahead for you. Expect no new content for the next 6 months. There's your road ahead.

But you do get a tiger if you're a founder. I just hope they dont put the tiger in the cash shop so that it can remain unique for those who stuck with the game since day 1.

I expect to see a tiger mount in the store before I see any new DLC's

Soulshine · February 2015

wraith808 wrote: »

Soulshine wrote: »

wraith808 wrote: »

Soulshine wrote: »

Good points and I feel the same and no, you asking such questions (or any of us asking them) is not about gloom and dooming. We are paying consumers and would like to know where are our dollars are going please.

We are paying consumers of a service, i.e. what we pay is for now, not the future, because it's likely to change. If you don't like where it is now, then don't pay. If you do, then do. But don't pay because they say that they're going to do something...

Your comment is rude and uncalled for. I have stated very clearly anumber of times around here that, I did not pay my sub for the game's "potential" as it were. Do not confuse wanting information on the direction of the game with confusion over where it is at this moment.

How is it rude? And it's definitely not uncalled for. How we spend our money for a service in no way entitles us to any information nor influence on direction. A good company will do such things, but the reality of the situation is quite different. Above the service paid for, we're entitled to exactly what they give us... no more or less. And that is what we should base our expenditures on.

I hear many times ZOS promised us... or ZOS said... or any other variations on this inserting different names, or even customer service names.

The only thing that we can depend on is what is released. The other things are nice to know, and shouldn't really influence our spending decisions. Because they are more apt to change in some fashion than not. They even make that disclaimer in a lot of cases.

Blunt? Maybe. A different opinion? Definitely. But not rude, nor uncalled for, especially as all of us can express ourselves freely, and that's what the board is for. In my opinion, by keeping focused on what they're delivering instead of what they say they'll deliver, one is not be disappointed when they don't and won't get a sense of being cheated when we got exactly what we paid for.

Yes it was rude and uncalled for, since I expressed in no way shape or form any of the things you are referring to. I was not stating anything other than an understanding of @Kevingway's post, which was pointing out that we have often lately been given these "announcements" with nothing but recycled details we already know about, which makes the very title of the "road ahead" pretty silly in the first place.

It is a logical observastion to make and one which many other people here have voiced before not just the OP.

Saying we would like more information about the proverbial "road ahead" because we are paying customers is not demaning anything. It is stating a simple fact. We would like to know more.

You want to equate that with me expressing entitlement to information or wanting to "influence direction" is total rubbish and obviously your own trip.

riverdragon72 · February 2015

dharbert wrote: »

I can sum up the road ahead for you. Expect no new content for the next 6 months. There's your road ahead.

The road ahead will be 6 months of bug re dispersing and balancing (nerf) acts.

Kragorn · February 2015

Kevingway wrote: »

Road Ahead--No New Information Why?

Because they have nothing new to say.

I seriously don't think they really have a clue, for example, how they'll fulfill their pledge to remove VR.

Beyond that, I see no prospect of their releasing U7 before August, that's 6 months away, and God knows we've seen many examples of ZOS statements about what will happen in a a few week's time not happen: Imperial City, anyone? No, they never said a date, yes they said it was "nearly ready" and gave every impression of an imminent announcement of a date.

I therefore think Firor had nothing to say that wouldn't aggravate an already pissed-off playerbase who've had no new content for 6 months (or a year if you're not a group-or-die fan) and see no prospect of any new stuff for 6 months more.

No, Justice isn't new content in my terms, it's a game mechanic designed to pander to the lolworldPVP brigade, and even if you're champing at the bit to play it it adds nothing to the game world, no new story arcs and a skill line that's pretty much useless for anything unrelated to Justice.

LtCrunch · February 2015

We learned that the console version will support an FOV slider which is unprecedented when talking about console games and is pretty awesome to see IMO.

LtCrunch · February 2015

Kragorn wrote: »

Kevingway wrote: »

Road Ahead--No New Information Why?

Because they have nothing new to say.

I seriously don't think they really have a clue, for example, how they'll fulfill their pledge to remove VR.

Beyond that, I see no prospect of their releasing U7 before August, that's 6 months away, and God knows we've seen many examples of ZOS statements about what will happen in a a few week's time not happen: Imperial City, anyone? No, they never said a date, yes they said it was "nearly ready" and gave every impression of an imminent announcement of a date.

I therefore think Firor had nothing to say that wouldn't aggravate an already pissed-off playerbase who've had no new content for 6 months (or a year if you're not a group-or-die fan) and see no prospect of any new stuff for 6 months more.

No, Justice isn't new content in my terms, it's a game mechanic designed to pander to the lolworldPVP brigade, and even if you're champing at the bit to play it it adds nothing to the game world, no new story arcs and a skill line that's pretty much useless for anything unrelated to Justice.

I disagree, I think it adds a lot to the atmosphere of the game world and it will lead to some organic "storytelling " just like in past TES games. Not to mention if you're a role-player it's going to add a lot of new potential RP.

I do agree it's not really substantial content,but it does add a Lot to the game world IMO.

Kragorn · February 2015

We'll have to agree to disagree about Justice; I don't dispute it'll have an effect on the 'atmosphere' on the game world, I expect it to be hugely negative. We'll simply see vast swathes of dead (or missing) NPCs, that really will affect the 'atmosphere' of the game, not one I find at all enticing.

Bloodfang · February 2015

xMovingTarget wrote: »

EQBallzz wrote: »

The main thing you need to read from the Road Ahead to answer your question is this one line:

We'll constantly be working on new Crown Store items, so expect to see them rolled out on the PTS from time to time.

They already stated that spellcrafting is not being worked on anymore and they will be letting the game "breath" after console launch. So after 1.6 not much of anything and then after the console launch a prolonged "breathing" period. They will however be working constantly on adding things to buy in the Crown Store so I guess you can get your wallet ready for some purchases to tide you over until 2016 when you might get some new playable content. Or not.

I probably wont last until 2016 when theres nothing new coming out. I feel burned out already Theres literally not much to do anymore. At some point you did everything "except Master Angler". its just login for hirelings, maybe do 1 daylie, chat 10 minutes logout. log back in in the evening to do trials with guild(trials also getting kinda boring at this point), log back out and done.

You pretty much sumed up every MMO out there..well perhaps not every one, because most don't even have anything to be done this deep into their lifetime..

Heck even WoW expansion had less content than for 1 month..sure there are 2 raids, but most don't even bother to keep completing same rehashed crap over and over again..Also most don't even like raiding, nor have time for that..

All of this is sad but true..if you are expecting to get quality updates every month or 2 in an MMO you set up your expectations way too high..or you just stepped into the wrong genre..MMOs are made to be cashgrabs, grindy lifeless products..sure ESO did some things better, especially with the story..but they keep tricking you to do the same old "endgame" which nobody bothers to do anymore..especially not in a TES game where most of us are just casuals..

I'd much rather play a singleplayer TES game, but sadly none will ever be that big as ESO, thats the whole point of it..adding whole Tamriel and perhaps even whole Nirn..so thats whats keeping me here..

Seraphyel · February 2015

Kevingway wrote: »

I'm not trying to start one of those controversy threads, though I have to state my disappointment in the pretty much guaranteed nature of the whole "there won't be any new content for a long time" bit. Why in the world does this road ahead give us absolutely nothing to go on in terms of when to expect future content?

Maybe they have no content to show us?

They keep telling Orsinium (=Wrothgar) is ready and will be the first DLC but... WHERE is any information about it?

Where is information about IC?
About Murkmire?
Clockwork City?

Where is all of that?

BlueIllyrian · February 2015

All you need to know > "We'll constantly be working on new Crown Store items, so expect to see them rolled out on the PTS from time to time."

Exstazik · February 2015

Road Ahead--No New Information Why?

Vunter · February 2015

At least we'll get a costume and maybe a tiger.
This is new content lol

Exstazik · February 2015

Vunter wrote: »

At least we'll get a costume and maybe a tiger.
This is new content lol

if you will not feed tiger with crowns it will die

Sotha_Sil · February 2015

Exstazik wrote: »

Road Ahead--No New Information Why?

Nice one :P

wraith808 · February 2015

Soulshine wrote: »

wraith808 wrote: »

Soulshine wrote: »

wraith808 wrote: »

Soulshine wrote: »

Good points and I feel the same and no, you asking such questions (or any of us asking them) is not about gloom and dooming. We are paying consumers and would like to know where are our dollars are going please.

We are paying consumers of a service, i.e. what we pay is for now, not the future, because it's likely to change. If you don't like where it is now, then don't pay. If you do, then do. But don't pay because they say that they're going to do something...

Your comment is rude and uncalled for. I have stated very clearly anumber of times around here that, I did not pay my sub for the game's "potential" as it were. Do not confuse wanting information on the direction of the game with confusion over where it is at this moment.

How is it rude? And it's definitely not uncalled for. How we spend our money for a service in no way entitles us to any information nor influence on direction. A good company will do such things, but the reality of the situation is quite different. Above the service paid for, we're entitled to exactly what they give us... no more or less. And that is what we should base our expenditures on.

I hear many times ZOS promised us... or ZOS said... or any other variations on this inserting different names, or even customer service names.

The only thing that we can depend on is what is released. The other things are nice to know, and shouldn't really influence our spending decisions. Because they are more apt to change in some fashion than not. They even make that disclaimer in a lot of cases.

Blunt? Maybe. A different opinion? Definitely. But not rude, nor uncalled for, especially as all of us can express ourselves freely, and that's what the board is for. In my opinion, by keeping focused on what they're delivering instead of what they say they'll deliver, one is not be disappointed when they don't and won't get a sense of being cheated when we got exactly what we paid for.

Yes it was rude and uncalled for, since I expressed in no way shape or form any of the things you are referring to. I was not stating anything other than an understanding of @Kevingway's post, which was pointing out that we have often lately been given these "announcements" with nothing but recycled details we already know about, which makes the very title of the "road ahead" pretty silly in the first place.

It is a logical observastion to make and one which many other people here have voiced before not just the OP.

Saying we would like more information about the proverbial "road ahead" because we are paying customers is not demaning anything. It is stating a simple fact. We would like to know more.

You want to equate that with me expressing entitlement to information or wanting to "influence direction" is total rubbish and obviously your own trip.

Where do you see me say 'entitlement' in my post?

Hmmm... seems like someone my be projecting a 'trip'.

Like I said, difference of opinion and all, and it was in no way directed, so you're catching that something for... some reason. I was expressing my opinion, but you seem to want to ignore that point in deference to your own. Your prerogative.

As I've had my say, and you've had yours why don't we just move onward, eh?

xaraan · February 2015

Well, it did have new information: on the loyalty rewards, confirming xp boost potions, 1.6 in Feb. As for content, they've already said there won't be any until after console launch (which means probably a couple months after console), so don't expect any new dungeons or zones added to the game until Aug/Sep IMO. If you mean content like justice system and champion system stuff, they probably need to make sure what they have to roll out now is working for when it launches before deciding when the next phase is coming.