Buying xp boosts for gold?

Max2497 · February 2015

From The Road Ahead..."As such, I can tell you that we'll almost certainly have experience boost potions in the store at some point, as this kind of shortcut (spending less time to gain experience) is classified as a convenience. That way, you still have the choice of purchasing them with crowns or in-game gold."

We can't buy XP boosts in game with gold now. Does that mean that, at some point, we will be able craft xp boost potions, or be able to buy crowns with in game gold? And if so, will we be able to sell crowns for in game gold? This worries me.

McLukos · February 2015

win

c0rp · February 2015

no you cant sell crowns for in game gold, and anything bought from the shop is account bound.

/thread

Max2497 · February 2015

c0rp wrote: »

no you cant sell crowns for in game gold, and anything bought from the shop is account bound.

/thread

That's what I had heard as well. So, how are we going to be able to buy xp boost potions with in game gold?

Sylvyr · February 2015

I am confused by this as well. Can we buy XP boost potions with gold? Or can we buy crowns with gold then use those crowns to buy crown store XP potions? Or can players craft XP potions that sell for gold?

*boggle*

ItsMeToo · February 2015

This is starting to sound like P2W.

kongkim · February 2015

Haha no i don't think so that you will be able to craft them

But im looking forward to the boosters as its nice to level alts.

Sylvyr · February 2015

Will it stack with subscription xp bonus?

spryler · February 2015

But all my alts have been super over-leveled when playing through 1-50 anyway. Only real use would be for Champion Points.

Muizer · February 2015

Perhaps xp boost potions will appear in game with a one in a million drop rate. Would still fit ZoS' philosophy of money for time.

Soulshine · February 2015

Muizer wrote: »

Perhaps xp boost potions will appear in game with a one in a million drop rate. Would still fit ZoS' philosophy of money for time.

Heh. Well that is indeed the trick now, right? You can bet there will be feet held to the fire if this:

"...we're not going to make it harder for you to enjoy the game you already play to encourage you to use the Crown Store"

turns out to be incorrect, since it is a well known fact that many games start gradually making things decidedly more and more inconvenient for you to complete things the "normal" way in order to see you reach into your wallet and pay for those "conveniences." That's cleary why he said it, as he's no dummy.

Whether it turns out to be true in the future, we'll just have to wait and see.

phairdon · February 2015

ItsMeToo wrote: »

This is starting to sound like P2W.

So, what do you get as an ESO Plus member? Let’s go over the benefits:

A 10% bonus to XP and gold gain, crafting research, and inspiration

While you’re a member, you’ll enjoy faster progression thanks to the helpful buffs to XP, gold, and crafting, and you’ll be able to access any DLC game pack that’s available.

Reading this, players with subscriptions are going to be the ones with an advantage

Guess if they introduce XP boosts to the crown shop, you'd pay for them with crowns. Either with crowns given for being a subscriber prior to the Tamriel unlimited release or you'll need to buy crowns using a credit card.

Muizer · February 2015

phairdon wrote: »

ItsMeToo wrote: »

This is starting to sound like P2W.

So, what do you get as an ESO Plus member? Let’s go over the benefits:

A 10% bonus to XP and gold gain, crafting research, and inspiration

While you’re a member, you’ll enjoy faster progression thanks to the helpful buffs to XP, gold, and crafting, and you’ll be able to access any DLC game pack that’s available.

Reading this, players with subscriptions are going to be the ones with an advantage

Guess if they introduce XP boosts to the crown shop, you'd pay for them with crowns. Either with crowns given for being a subscriber prior to the Tamriel unlimited release or you'll need to buy crowns using a credit card.

Well yes, subscribers are the first to be co-opted into ZoS' new "philosophy".

I'm sorry. I really don't want to be all negative, but I'm very suspicious of this "philosophy", because it can so easily be stretched to outright P2W by selling otherwise very rare/hard to come by items in the crown store (theoretically only saving time").

On the one surface, its message is "trust us, we won't mess up the game", but the wording is chosen so they can do pretty much anything and still say "we never said we wouldn't".

It seems like a clever divide and conquer PR move, but the unwillingness to draw firm lines is the loudest message it sends.

LtCrunch · February 2015

Sylvyr wrote: »

Will it stack with subscription xp bonus?

As someone who still has sub time until September, I hope not. These should be there to help non-subscribers close the XP gap between them and subscribers. My guess is they will stack though.

phairdon · February 2015

Muizer wrote: »

phairdon wrote: »

ItsMeToo wrote: »

This is starting to sound like P2W.

So, what do you get as an ESO Plus member? Let’s go over the benefits:

A 10% bonus to XP and gold gain, crafting research, and inspiration

While you’re a member, you’ll enjoy faster progression thanks to the helpful buffs to XP, gold, and crafting, and you’ll be able to access any DLC game pack that’s available.

Reading this, players with subscriptions are going to be the ones with an advantage

Guess if they introduce XP boosts to the crown shop, you'd pay for them with crowns. Either with crowns given for being a subscriber prior to the Tamriel unlimited release or you'll need to buy crowns using a credit card.

Well yes, subscribers are the first to be co-opted into ZoS' new "philosophy".

I'm sorry. I really don't want to be all negative, but I'm very suspicious of this "philosophy", because it can so easily be stretched to outright P2W by selling otherwise very rare/hard to come by items in the crown store (theoretically only saving time").

On the one surface, its message is "trust us, we won't mess up the game", but the wording is chosen so they can do pretty much anything and still say "we never said we wouldn't".

It seems like a clever divide and conquer PR move, but the unwillingness to draw firm lines is the loudest message it sends.

Has no issue with the crown shop, let alone what may or may not be sold through it. Probably because of coming from gw2.
The only place there should be a limit on any distinct advantage (in my view) is the pvp side of the game.

BlueIllyrian · February 2015

Haha, good one OP, it would decrease potential crown store profits.

c0rp · February 2015

Max2497 wrote: »

c0rp wrote: »

no you cant sell crowns for in game gold, and anything bought from the shop is account bound.

/thread

That's what I had heard as well. So, how are we going to be able to buy xp boost potions with in game gold?

I would assume you walk up to an NPC, press E and purchase them. Which at that point, they become account bound. Seems easy enough for me.

Karmine · February 2015

They are most likely going to buyable from Vendors additionally like Soul Gems, hopefully level locked like SoulGems so High Levels can't buy too many and low levels can buy some.

"...we're not going to make it harder for you to enjoy the game you already play to encourage you to use the Crown Store"

And this famous qoute is TRUE!

They are not making anything harder for you. As it is now is the same leveling speed and killing chance as you have now. However you can make it easier for yourself to level by paying Subs or XP potions. It will in no way make it harder for you.

So if a guy is quicker to reach level 50 how does that make him better than your V14 guy ? How is he going to beat your Damage in Dungeon Delves ? He is going to out DPS sooooo good because he bought XP boosts.

I can see that logic, faster XP gain = higher DPS.

I am getting really pissed by all of these XP boost = P2W.....

P2W is something that makes your Level 50 Character stronger than other guy Level 50 character through useage of Real Money. Such as buying full set of Blue/Epic/Legendary items. Or having creating 10% damage booster. If they create 10% damage boosters or 10% health booster. Then we can say P2W. Until then can you please just all stop.

Kragorn · February 2015

Max2497 wrote: »

c0rp wrote: »

no you cant sell crowns for in game gold, and anything bought from the shop is account bound.

/thread

That's what I had heard as well. So, how are we going to be able to buy xp boost potions with in game gold?

How about the Store has two prices, in crowns and gold, other hybrid MMOs do it perfectly well.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom · February 2015

Sorry for the confusion, everyone! We missed a bit of vital information that we intended to go along with that sentence. We’ll be editing the article so the last sentence is more clear.

What that sentence is referring to is we’re still discussing what convenience items we'll also make available for purchase in-game with gold. Nothing is defined yet, though.

Sentinel · February 2015

With the CP system however, getting an increased XP gain can mean an advantage since you will be gaining points quicker than someone who isn't paying. The points really do make a big difference in the end, so it could very well result in: Increased XP=boosted CP= Increased Stats gained at a higher rate than players with non-xp boosts.